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My first San Pedro
    #23714398 - 10/06/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So I've always read about finding San Pedro or the likes at home depot or Lowe's. I always thought it was interesting but never actually pursued it.
Well earlier today I just happen to be at home depot during my lunch break. I thought I'd check out the cacti available. I spot a familiar shape an isle over. And go to check it out. Lo and behold the sticker says San Pedro so I knew I had to buy it. Came in a pair and I picked the healthiest looking pair. It was an odd feeling just walking up to the cashier with these but now here they are in my car. Buckled up for safety of course.
I have a good feeling about these and I still have a lot to learn but I'm going to try my best to make these flourish.



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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: Parafaragaramus] * 1
    #23714434 - 10/06/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Beautiful looking cacti, man. :hippie:

I especially like the tall one, something about it just stands out more than the other.. Both are beautiful, tho. Good find.


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: Parafaragaramus]
    #23714474 - 10/06/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Replant in a larger (+2 sizes) terra cotta pot with good drainage (add pebbles/gravel/lava rock in the bottom and add vermiculite + sand throughout).

These babies grow FAST!

If growing outdoors, know that they are mostly dormant in the winter. That means minimal watering and feeding.

Spring is when they explode. Water once a week and feed every two weeks or so.

In the summer they will still grow but much more slowly so they need less food, but more water. Either dilute the feeding (I use water soluble fertilizer) by half or feed full strength only every 3-4 weeks.

In the fall they start winding down so adjust your feeding and watering accordingly.

Use a quality cactus food. The are not sensitive, but if you want optimum growth...

When they branch or pup, you can cut them off and make new plants from them. DO NOT FEED OR WATER for about three weeks after replanting. They need to scar over and readjust so they will not be growing during this phase.

In a few years you will have more than you can use!

GL

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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23714879 - 10/07/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Replant in a larger (+2 sizes) terra cotta pot with good drainage (add pebbles/gravel/lava rock in the bottom and add vermiculite + sand throughout).

These babies grow FAST!

If growing outdoors, know that they are mostly dormant in the winter. That means minimal watering and feeding.

Spring is when they explode. Water once a week and feed every two weeks or so.

In the summer they will still grow but much more slowly so they need less food, but more water. Either dilute the feeding (I use water soluble fertilizer) by half or feed full strength only every 3-4 weeks.

In the fall they start winding down so adjust your feeding and watering accordingly.

Use a quality cactus food. The are not sensitive, but if you want optimum growth...

When they branch or pup, you can cut them off and make new plants from them. DO NOT FEED OR WATER for about three weeks after replanting. They need to scar over and readjust so they will not be growing during this phase.

In a few years you will have more than you can use!

GL

Tom




I did read a little about the bonsai effect on these. So I was planning on putting them in a bigger pot soon. I do live in Texas and it was about 90 today and I don't think it will get really cold for a while so I'm on the fence about whether to keep them outside, inside or keep moving them (which I'm sure isn't a good idea). I will definitely buy a large pot in the meantime so they have room to grow no matter what. I've also really been thinking about buying the other two pair so there is room for error.
I really appreciate the response. I knew there would be a lot more to learn, but I never really expected such a nice response. Thank you so much for the advice.


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: Parafaragaramus]
    #23715068 - 10/07/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

if you're in texas those guys still have quite a few weeks to be outside I think
I'd go buy as many as I could ha those are thick and fat
I'm building up my supply of PC pachanoi right now,
want to have lots of grafting stock.

I'd put them each into their own pot as well


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23716482 - 10/07/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Aren't the home depot ones normally PC? I saw some the other day and they were gorgeous. Almost spent on them but i wanted a true pedro and don't really know how to identify the difference. So beautiful though they could be show pieces. I mean fat, rich rich green color, and not a damned scratch on them. My bridgesii would look so scraggly next to them :lol:


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23716527 - 10/07/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Need to commit this to memory- what's the difference between PC and no?


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: saythatagain]
    #23716548 - 10/07/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not totally clear but my understanding is that the alkaloid content isn't optimal. Still a gorgeous cactus for aesthetics


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: saythatagain]
    #23716936 - 10/07/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Those 2 cacti in the pot are differwnt. One is Pc and one is not.

So there OP, you have yourself 2 different sets of genetics.

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Need to commit this to memory- what's the difference between PC and no?




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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23716939 - 10/07/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Google predominant cultivar.


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23717109 - 10/07/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Those 2 cacti in the pot are differwnt. One is Pc and one is not.

So there OP, you have yourself 2 different sets of genetics.





changed my mind, there is a Trichocereus cv. Altman's that has the look of the one on the left
so likely 2 clones


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23720225 - 10/08/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Have been reading up a bit on maintaining these. I read a 50/50 perlite/garden soil is good. I have a giant bag of perlite that I've never used when I first started growing mushrooms because I thought I would be using it for cakes but went to grains. And that a big plastic tub with holes in the bottom for drainage would work. I was thinking about putting them both on opposite ends of the tub. It's a 18 gallon/ 68 liter tub. Does that sound like a decent plan?

So basically with a PC the alkaloid content is lower?
Is this purposeful with store bought cacti?
Whenever I plan on consuming the cacti I was going to attempt as good of an extraction as I could manage.
Other than the amount of starting materials needed is there any other differences?
Sorry for all the questions I've been doing some sporadic research but I feel like with mushrooms there's a whole lot to learn.

I can also take some better pictures of each close up if that would help any in identifying if it's a PC or not


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: Parafaragaramus]
    #23720286 - 10/08/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

we always love pictures

I'm currently wishing for a lot of PC, if only they didn't cost so much to ship
it's gotta be one of the best grafting stocks

and I think you just need to brew more of it :shrug: but it's really easy to get cheap bridgesii cuttings
if that's what you're after


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Re: My first San Pedro [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23720340 - 10/08/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'll definitely try and get some more pics tomorrow if the sun comes out. That's when I plan on getting everything I don't have and moving them into the tub.

I think mostly what I'm after is that sort of DIY attitude. Like when I started growing shrooms I've learned so much and I don't ever have to depend on anyone but myself if I want to take some. I just have this desire to be the most involved with the substances I take as I can be. Like I would love to get some glassware and go out and personally get some Sassafras root and other ingredients to make my own MDA/MDMA. I'd love to extract DMT at some point and if I ever had the time/resources I'd research the plants I could grow to do the extractions on.

I'm definitely going to be spending some time with these and caring for them. But as long as the effort isn't completely futile then I'm happy.


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