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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23714535 - 10/06/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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STAL because it depends on the situation
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23714536 - 10/06/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't think society as we know it would be able to function if people were truly treated as individuals, "equality" is a necessary fiction
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23714550 - 10/06/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Three INTPs walk into a bar. The bartender asks them what they would like to drink. They start arguing.
Which of the three is right?
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23714552 - 10/06/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wheres equality exist? People compete for jobs, grades, women. What part of this society is based in it?
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted] 2
#23714561 - 10/06/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The question is invalid, op. It makes no sense, it's like saying which arm would u rather use, ur left or right?, naturally if ure a righty ure going to choose right, and if ure a lefty well then ure going to choose to use the left arm, not to mention u weren't even told what the purpose of choosing either of them was. There are just too many variables involved to give a solid awnser.
If someone handed me a piece of paper with those questions listed and asked me to awnser them, I'd roll it up into a ball and toss it in the trash. I'm edgy af what can I say.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: zZZz] 1
#23714675 - 10/06/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is such an intp thread
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#23714683 - 10/06/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Last time I took that test I came out as INTP and I think INFJ, it said it couldnt differentiate me between the two.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: zZZz]
#23714723 - 10/06/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: The question is invalid, op. It makes no sense, it's like saying which arm would u rather use, ur left or right?, naturally if ure a righty ure going to choose right, and if ure a lefty well then ure going to choose to use the left arm, not to mention u weren't even told what the purpose of choosing either of them was. There are just too many variables involved to give a solid awnser.
If someone handed me a piece of paper with those questions listed and asked me to awnser them, I'd roll it up into a ball and toss it in the trash. I'm edgy af what can I say.
That is a godawful analogy. The question makes sense. The question, "Would you rather use your left or right arm" also makes sense, and obviously as a right handed person I will choose my right arm, and because the answer is so obvious and both answers are essentially the same but just dependent upon whether the responder is right handed or left handed, the question is not analogous to the question in the OP at all. Jung might try to argue that the answer is obvious is dependent upon whether the responder is a Thinker or a Feeler, but as I argued in the OP that assumption is highly debatable.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23714751 - 10/06/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Both actually make sense depending on the circumstance.
If I am in charge of a classroom, and one child is clearly mentally disabled or handicapped, it makes no sense to give this person the same curriculum and coursework as the rest of the class. Same goes for the advanced student, a kid who's a child prodigy should be given coursework that's several grades above them.
I mean, nobody clearly truly treats or perceives everybody as equal, this is impossible. It's the entire reason minors don't have the same rights that adults do. It's the entire reason mentally retarded people can pretty much commit any crime and get away with it, even rape, and they will basically be forgiven and won't be prosecuted because they aren't capable of processing logical thought or even right from wrong.
In the case of running a workplace, on some level all entry-level employees should start from the same salary. Perhaps if some have more advanced education or end up performing much better than other employees, you should give the better-performing ones a raise or a promotion.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Crystal G]
#23715193 - 10/07/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am not above anything, whatsoever. My point was that it is possible to interact with people on an individual basis but still treat them equally. Not trying to be "edgy" lol, I guess I just don't really see things in those terms. It seems like a force perspective that is inadequate in realistic situations.
I never implied you were dumb, and never implied or thought I was intellectually above anything. It's just not easy of looking at things. In a real test I would be incredibly hard pressed not check both boxes.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23715441 - 10/07/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isn't it a false dichotomy to split people up into the category of "thinkers" and "feelers" anyways? I think a lot and also feel a lot. My feelings influence my thoughts and my thought process also influences my feelings. Isn't that just natural to the human condition? I found it impossible to choose between the two because I try to treat people as individuals with an emphasis on feeling compassion for all beings, which is a feeling of equality.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Chakra Shock]
#23715584 - 10/07/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Individuals 100%.
This "were all equal" is complete bullshit. A celebrity dies, the world grinds to a halt, when you die, 99.99% of the city you live in won't give a fuck.
We have money to feed starving Africans but we spend it on museums and over priced beer at sporting events. We don't give a fuck.
Equality is a word people choose to believe in to make themselves look good. There's no such thing as equality. Probably never will be either.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23715596 - 10/07/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obviously you should treat people as individuals, not equals. Otherwise you'd be asking people in wheelchairs to help you move furniture, buying beer for minors, flirting with obvious bull dykes, and shit like.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: morrowasted]
#23715599 - 10/07/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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those two things are not mutually exclusive. Treat people on their own individual merit without prejudice.
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Great Scott]
#23715601 - 10/07/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Obviously you should treat people as individuals, not equals. Otherwise you'd be asking people in wheelchairs to help you move furniture, buying beer for minors, flirting with obvious bull dykes, and shit like.
Technically if you're treating everybody as equals, wouldn't you be flirting with everybody, male or female and everything in between?
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Crystal G]
#23715969 - 10/07/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Peeps could be treated as equals even in op's analogy with the whole apple tree, like ok those 3 dudes each got a difference sized ladder and one of the lil fuckers couldn't reach the tree, well what if one of the taller dudes took it upon himself to gather up some apples for the short dudes?, wouldn't that be considered equality?..
Shit still don't make any sense..
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Should people be treated as equals or as individuals? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23716158 - 10/07/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Wheres equality exist? People compete for jobs, grades, women. What part of this society is based in it?
the obvious answer would be: in areas intrinsic to the democratic process, like voting
also the court systems wouldn't be able to function if people were treated as individuals, it'd turn into a complete circus and nobody would ever end up being convicted (or even showing up), because a true individual makes his(her/their/red ropes') own laws
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PeyoteZen said: Obviously you should treat people as individuals, not equals. Otherwise you'd be asking people in wheelchairs to help you move furniture, buying beer for minors, flirting with obvious bull dykes, and shit like.
shit, that's where i've been going wrong
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