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OfflineJacksonMetaller
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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23721286 - 10/09/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Makes me laugh but then I think about the hordes of people who don't know any better. Especially the elderly




Yup. Alzheimers? Apparently Dr. Alzheimer himself noted almost a century ago that neurosyphilis and Alzheimers were nearly indistinguishable. I wouldn't know because that article was in German, but decades of research have connected Alzheimers to syphilis, lyme disease, chlamydia, herpes viruses, nematodes, etc. In other words concluding that Alzheimers plaques were likely just microbial biofilms like the ones you get on your teeth when you don't brush :shrug: They blame beta-amyloid, but amyloid deposition is just what bacteria initiate to form biofilms. I just read an article where they discovered the immune response to amyloid/biofilm in the human gut, then concluded alzheimers must be a case of mistaken identity, then proposed an anti TLR-2 drug to inhibit the immune response :facepalm: "It represents infection in the gut, but there's no way it represents infection in the brain, it must be a mistake and we can correct it with immunosuppressants!" This is the state of science... And like you said those poor elderly are just going to suffer while science is "hard at work" trying to cure this illness. Interestingly a number of plants (chinese skullcap) have been demonstrated in vivo to both remove alzheimers plaque in models and spirochetal biofilms and traditionally have been used for neurological diseases indicating good availability. Anyways, getting off track. Never get me started on this rant :lol:


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: myceliups]
    #23721302 - 10/09/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

When I was getting off eating sugary foods I would chew up the garbage food without swallowing then spit it into the trash and clear my mouth out with water. Sounds stupidly simple but it helped wean me off the junk.


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23721739 - 10/09/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting. Is there anywhere in particular you read about this kind of thing? You seem quite knowledgeable


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23722496 - 10/09/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Unfortunately not that I'm aware of. That's part of the problem. Most of this just arose from me taking excessive time off to read literature in diverse fields and integrate it to try and understand what was happening to my body. Places like NCBI have a lot of research and google scholar is a good way to broaden your searches. But putting it all together in one coherent synthesis has sort of just been my own process these past few years. There are a lot of alternative health practitioners trying to bring light to things like "leaky gut" and "chronic lyme" and "biotoxin illness" and that can be a good place to start sometimes. But you have to be careful too. There is some really great stuff in the alternative health fields and some really not so great stuff. Usually though, the problem is just getting hung up on one idea or another. People thinking "leaky gut" is the cause of all problems or lyme is the worst pathogen when in reality most of this stuff is just archtypes for general patterns that can be found all over and always function together. If you're interested in specifics i can try to dig up or recommend stuff to read. I'm trying to get better about saving sources :P


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23725348 - 10/10/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is good stuff...Jackson is wayyy beyond what my brain can come up with....but, there is a science supporting his research.
I have RA and have been through the gamut of what modern medicine has to offer. I have one of the better health systems in the world (Johns Hopkins) and my rheumatologist put me on methotrexate for 2 years and when that wasn't working as well and I was constantly getting upper respiratory infections....her answer was to try a biologic like humira. I had an old friendof the family physician that had retired who told me to stop all of that poison and try a new diet which consisted of almost all raw fruits and vegetables. He said this would help change things at the microbe level (layman's terms). I also was researching some medicinal mushrooms and came up with both chaga and reishi. I learned to make tinctures of both and started taking both tinctures 3 or 4 times a day along with the modified diet. Bottom line is that even though I only lasted about a year with the diet...I have never stopped taking the reishi/ chaga...I have been in remission for the last 3 years with only occasional flares. It seems as though the chaga mushroom has auto-immune stabilizing qualities. I still get my blood checked and have been seeing my rheumatologist letting her know what I have done. My RA factor has been zero and she has gone from cold about the idea of using alternative therapies to gradually warming to it.

Lol...all that said....I still have GERD and continue to take zantac twice a day to control it....so...I have nothing to offer the op except to trust your instincts. I am a fairly spiritual person and I truly believe that these two remedies were given through divine guidance....people and stories at precisely the right time where I was open to them.:sunny::peace:


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23725729 - 10/10/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wow thanks for sharing man. My journey has definitely gotten me interested in herbals. There are some really cool books on Lyme disease and other infections written by an herbalist named Stephen Buhner who got me really interested in the topic. That stuff is way more sophisticated than virtually any pharmaceutical it's not even funny. The fact that more scientists aren't nerding out over that is shocking. I'm a far way from full remission but I ran out of curcumin the past few days and god damn did I feel that. I didn't even realize how much it was helping til I stopped


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23725753 - 10/10/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Very odd indeed that these kinds of things don't get legitimately studied more.


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: myceliups]
    #23739277 - 10/15/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Diet: Start with autoimmune-paleo - the best overall starting point in general.

Probiotics: kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut or multistrain high quality Lactobacillus.

Betaine HCL might provide relief on short term and boost recovery speed from gerd.

Experimental stuff: baking soda (was mentioned earlier) and drinking purified water might help also.


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Re: Terrible GERD [Re: chrysalis]
    #23739568 - 10/15/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Don't use Betaine Hydrochloride until you figure out which sort of GERD you have. If you already have corrosive stomach acid (which it sounds like OP may) it will make it worse.


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