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jasen
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Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing...
#23713394 - 10/06/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I've been successfully growing galindoi truffles for a minute now, but I've been unable to get it to produce fruit for me. I've got several jars with RGS following a general POD technique, and they've fully colonized and look healthy, but never start to pin, even after several weeks. I can see more truffles growing on the sides, but zero pins on the surface. I've tried leaving the caps cracked or open to get as much air as possible, misting some of them to get more moisture (and leaving others alone). Some getting light, some in dark. All the same. I also have a monotub, grain spawn mixed with a prepared straw/paper substrate, cased with a peat/soil layer. And it grows like gangbusters. It's started taking over the casing layer--but it's still not fruiting. The temps in my home are always mid-high 70s. Does this species require higher or lower temps to trigger fruiting? I've attached a pic from the top of the tub, showing how the mycelium is growing a large white lump on top of my casing layer. This about 10 days or so since I spawned the tub. It looks like healthy growth, but not in any mood to fruit. What gives?
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: jasen]
#23713609 - 10/06/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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whats your FC tek? thats like a half mono half sgfc
and the sub looks dry af
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jasen
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: mushboy]
#23716636 - 10/07/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've read so many teks I can't say this is any one in particular, however it is following mono mostly. I do have holes in the top of the container, but not all the way down or on the bottom like an fcfg setup. The casing layer looks dry (and maybe it still is) but it gets wetted down a couple times a day, and the humidity is kept pretty high.
If it's dry, it doesn't seem to be affecting my crazy-looking mycelium growth. It is taking over the casing layer. This is one day later from the above picture:

My wife thinks the casing layer was too thin. I thought it was pretty close to a 1/4 inch all around. Either way, it's an interesting development.
I'm really looking for any comments from those who have fruited galindoi before, and might tell me how far out of norm this looks. This is just an experiment at this point, so no harm, no foul, no matter what happens with it. If anyone has other suggestions to try, I'm open to play with it too.
Edited by jasen (10/07/16 03:01 PM)
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: jasen]
#23716681 - 10/07/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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looks like a ganoderma substrate beginning to pin. it looks like two different mycelium in there or a horrible reaction to some bacteria in the middle there.
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: bodhisatta]
#23716700 - 10/07/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it looks exactly like ganoderma.
Your shit is all out of whack though because you have all those top holes and no bottom holes. The way that thing is designed air is pouring out from the top and probably exiting before it does anything beneficial, or it sinks to the surface and stays there stagnant. There's hybrid fruiting chambers, but that ones just kind of ill-informed
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23716746 - 10/07/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ganoderma? You mean the genus of polypore shelf-mushrooms, like Reishi?
Hahah. I knew it was weird looking. I'll keep this thread updated, maybe it'll get weirder.
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: jasen]
#23716759 - 10/07/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it looks like reishi that started fruiting prematurely.
This is a tub fruiting with ganoderma multplenum
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23716811 - 10/07/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: bodhisatta]
#23716822 - 10/07/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supposedly G. lucidum, in a proper hybrid mini mono:

I agree it does look somewhat like reishi blobs.
Edited by Greg (10/07/16 04:09 PM)
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: Greg]
#23717169 - 10/07/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting, it is starting to look like some kind of Ganoderma, from those pics. I have not tried to grow any of those species around here though, so I'd be curious what could have possibly hijacked this grow, if it's not galindoi.
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: jasen]
#23719928 - 10/08/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Today's new growth pic, still going strong.

To be more clear on what is in this tub, this started out as basically 50% of the remainder of rye grains from jars that were left to grow truffles for over 12 weeks and harvested, and 50% shredded paper substrate that was boiled with a mix of coffee and diluted hydroponic nutrients. Cased with a peat-heavy potting soil, that was wetted to mud and microwaved a few times for some half-assed sterilization. At this point I can see the substrate is fully colonized through the bottom and sides. The canerous-looking growths on top still intrigue me. I can't wait to see what this is going to do.
Edited by jasen (10/08/16 03:59 PM)
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: jasen]
#23719951 - 10/08/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh well... if you took those measures to "half-ass" your substrate that could very well be some extremely contaminated growth. It's starting to look less like reishi and more like something you should toss the fuck out of your house. But idk still.
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23719956 - 10/08/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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your galindoi has mycogone
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23719998 - 10/08/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sloppy- No man, it's still all mycelium I'm pretty sure. The texture and color is right, the smell is still all mushroom. It's not mold or bacteria at this point. I've had my share of dealing with that in the past. I'm pretty confident this is still all galindoi, but it is reacting and growing in an odd way.
Either way, I'm going to keep this thread updated as a kind of log. If I'm totally fucked up here, and things go real bad, at least others may learn from the mistakes. 
Edited by jasen (10/08/16 04:23 PM)
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Re: Galindoi, hard to fruit? What the hell is it doing... [Re: dankington]
#23720021 - 10/08/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
dankington said: your galindoi has mycogone
I can see where you could say that. It does look similar in many aspects. I have no idea how I could definitely test for that, however I'll bear it mind as things develop.
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