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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23714071 - 10/06/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I got my first dui in Alaska where it was practically legal. I token up before going to the state Fair. Ate many delicious treats. The cop had such a fucking hard on when he breathalyzed me but i hadn't been drinking.

Then I got taken to the hospital and threatened if you don't give us blood we will hold you down and take it. I'd imagine it's a lot what rape feels like. :shrug:


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23714089 - 10/06/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Drugged driving is the same as drinking in my state.  I have driven thousands and thousands of miles smoking weed.  Got into accidents when not smoking.  Drove from Oregon to the Far East of the mid west smoking an 1/4 over the three days drive.  Didn't see a cop the whole way.  Used to take drives in the country just to blaze.  I don't like a lot of traffic driving stoned, or bright lights at night, or not knowing the roads.  Thing about weed is you start to come down fairly quickly, about an hour or less.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23714507 - 10/06/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I got my first dui in Alaska where it was practically legal. I token up before going to the state Fair. Ate many delicious treats. The cop had such a fucking hard on when he breathalyzed me but i hadn't been drinking.

Then I got taken to the hospital and threatened if you don't give us blood we will hold you down and take it. I'd imagine it's a lot what rape feels like. :shrug:




What'd he pull you over for? I need deets.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23714521 - 10/06/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yeah im curious about that too.

also i was wondering... If you show zero signs of marijuana impairment (driving is flawless) as well as no smell and no "brown Tongue" whatever the fuck that means, and they still pull you over then can they legally give you a THC test with no probable cause?


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715000 - 10/07/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Driving while intoxicated is pretty fucked up. Maybe your not risking someones life because your such a good driver. What about other people?


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715562 - 10/07/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ever since I was a wee teenager I've been driving "high" and it's just a fact it doesn't impair you the way alcohol would....
In fact, it makes me more alert and my pain taken away so I can be a better driver.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23715698 - 10/07/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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my point is that i am stoned muktiple times a day and am able to function through-out the day very well and perform complex tasks that require massive hand-eye co-ordination





it's funny but drunks say the same thing, many even claim they drive better when they're drunk


I bet you're stoned now seeing as how you cant perform a simple task like spelling "multiple"


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23715766 - 10/07/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

And u seem pretty drunk cuz u cant figure out im using my phone which is a touchscreen and of course u missed the fact the L is right next to the k.

That was a pretty weak argument.

Seems your urge to put people down gets in the way of your ability to examine things rationally and with reason. How unfortunate.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715806 - 10/07/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The real danger of driving impaired is obviously not that you may get pulled over but that you would hurt someone, and get put away for decades. If you hurt someone while driving drunk or stoned then don't expect to receive much sympathy from the judge.
Should it be that way? I would have to say yes given the multitude of things that can get you intoxicated, even prescription drugs, that it makes little sense to make an exception for pot.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715830 - 10/07/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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And u seem pretty drunk cuz u cant figure out im using my phone which is a touchscreen and of course u missed the fact the L is right next to the k.

That was a pretty weak argument.

Seems your urge to put people down gets in the way of your ability to examine things rationally and with reason. How unfortunate.





please, tell us how driving while stoned is much safer than driving sober


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23715841 - 10/07/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

when the fuck did i say that.
thats just a bullshit strawman argument.

When you want to have a reasonable discussion then we will talk.

the only point of this thread was to ask if we should punish impairment based on how impaired you are not just "if its in your system after 20 days"

its quite obvious you didnt even read this thread and you just came here to troll.

why you are a moderator is beyond me.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: 28064212]
    #23715849 - 10/07/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ever since I was a wee teenager I've been driving "high" and it's just a fact it doesn't impair you the way alcohol would....
In fact, it makes me more alert and my pain taken away so I can be a better driver.




Said every drunk/stoner. What a crock of shit if you ask me.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715865 - 10/07/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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SleepyE said:
when the fuck did i say that.
thats just a bullshit strawman argument.





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my point is that i am stoned muktiple times a day and am able to function through-out the day very well and perform complex tasks that require massive hand-eye co-ordination






Quote:

When you want to have a reasonable discussion then we will talk.






so you know your argument doesnt hold water and this is your attempt to escape

it's simple, potheads believe that they function just fine when they're stoned yet
they cause more injury than the sober people, colorado and washington have seen an
increase in traffic fatalities involving people with marijuana in their system
just as have states with medical marijuana

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the only point of this thread was to ask if we should punish impairment based on how impaired you are not just "if its in your system after 20 days"





no, that's  my answer, but I also believe that if you crash into someone when
you're stoned you should get a minimum of 5 years in prison and if it results in
death then you should get life

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its quite obvious you didnt even read this thread and you just came here to troll.

why you are a moderator is beyond me.




so if someone isnt 100% in agreement with you they must be a troll, how
disingenuous, if you think that a difference in opinion is trolling then
you're the one with the deep rooted liberal entitlement issues


you should scream "racist" a few times for good measure


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23715894 - 10/07/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

All I was asking was should stoned driving be punished as severely as drunk driving if there are no accidents involved and you were just unlucky and got caught.

then you turn it around by claiming i was saying that there is nothing wrong with driving stoned when all i was asking is if it should be considered as bad as driving drunk if no accidents or reckless driving occurred.

you were definitely misrepresenting my argument and i have the right to assume that is trollish behavior, so sue me. But im glad you cleared that up, a little.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23715941 - 10/07/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Canada has rights?


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23716047 - 10/07/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is complicated. So you believe people who get into accidents with pot in their system should get minimum of 5 years in prison (which in canada at least will NEVER happen thankfully)
while someone who has been drinking but is still under the legal limit (and is physically JUST as impaired or more impaired than a stoner with a tolerance) shouldn't have be charged a minimum of five years?

thats why i think this level stuff is non-sense and biased.
its not judging actual impairment levels.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23716062 - 10/07/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Drive or get high. Pick one and stop complaining.


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: koods]
    #23716078 - 10/07/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I do not own a car.  As I get older I keep my buzz time aside from running around in a car/public.

Not that I am a fan of the justice system.  It's a bushiness


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: koods]
    #23716086 - 10/07/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Drive or get high. Pick one and stop complaining.



lol :strokebeard:


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Re: Should driving while stoned be punished a severely as drunk driving? [Re: 28064212]
    #23716210 - 10/07/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ever since I was a wee teenager I've been driving "high" and it's just a fact it doesn't impair you the way alcohol would....
In fact, it makes me more alert and my pain taken away so I can be a better driver.





You know what? You have a great point. Weed actually impairs me more then a few drinks do. Drinking actually relieves a lot of anxiety for me which makes me a better driver. I think I will down this pint of vodka with a few beers and drive downtown. Trust me, I got this.


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