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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712665 - 10/06/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh no I hope not. that jar is the one with the most growth. so confusing, earlier user told me it looked good, good growth.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Mad Season]
    #23712666 - 10/06/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah it doesn't look like a contamination to me, but contams can be very similar




He said he started the grow 9 days ago no way its colonised like that in 9 days


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712671 - 10/06/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I did not know that the growth shown seemed fast, almost all of the jars look similar with growth in the areas where i injected the needles.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712685 - 10/06/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Mad Season said:
Yeah it doesn't look like a contamination to me, but contams can be very similar




He said he started the grow 9 days ago no way its colonised like that in 9 days





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23195060#top

These are less than 14 days old at the time of the OP. Ive seen many users get fully colonized jars in less than 2 weeks :shrug:

But with shit going that fast, I always recommend adding a week on the consolidation period. If it colonizes before 2 weeks, do a 2 week consolidation.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Mad Season]
    #23712697 - 10/06/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ok but can someone tell me if I need to shake them?


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712706 - 10/06/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Don't shake them.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Mad Season]
    #23712774 - 10/06/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

But they are tiny little jars op is using much larger


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712784 - 10/06/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes he's using pints. Still, although it is uncommon for it to be that big in 9 days, it isn't unheard of at all. Also he's using some fucked up mixture of things for his substrate. Maybe it has less nutrients, and thus the myc spreads more looking for food. He is using 75% verm, which is already less nutrients than the classic 66.7% of verm used in the regular pf tek. :shrug: who really knows. It still looks like cubensis mycelium to me, but I could be wrong. I have been before


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Mad Season]
    #23712790 - 10/06/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I find it ironic that he's from one of the places that eats the most rice but isn't using it, one of the main ingredients for cakes (brf) that must be in abundance there :rofl:


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712832 - 10/06/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am in college, year abroad (in Texas, yeehaw), haha I guess I should of used rice :smile:

They are 8oz or half pint, and the picture I showed has to be the jar with the most growth. It was 30ml of liquid spores for 6 jars.

The mixture was 3 parts verm, to 1 part rye seed, 1 part poppy seed. So not 75%.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712860 - 10/06/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The ratio for Pf tek is 2 verm 1 brown rice flour 1 water for future reference :thumbup:
And that's a lot of spores 1/4cc per jar, I've always done 1cc per jar but nevermind


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23712879 - 10/06/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ah yea sorry that reminds me. 1 Part water was also added. It was a wet mixture. and attempted 15ml of spores per 8oz jar. Spores seem very cheap, so I was pretty liberal with using them.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712892 - 10/06/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ideally you use only a drop or two of spores. Less is more with spores. Using too much can slow growth and greatly encourages contamination


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712905 - 10/06/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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15ml of spores per 8oz jar




This is bad.
The mushrooms spores are collected from are grown in open air.
Open air has all sorts of nasties (mold, bacteria, yeast, etc.)
The more spores you use, the higher likelihood you've just introduced contaminants.

You can literally use less than a drop:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=23645997

Not to mention that's quite a bit of liquid you're adding to the media.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23712909 - 10/06/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for that info, I obviously thought the opposite, I guess that means I can stretch out my other 3 syringes to go further next time. Im glad this is just a learning experience. If I actually get something usable from this attempt I will be happy :smile: Is it ok to mention where I purchased the spores? does that often make a difference? Im sure different vendors have different reputations.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712918 - 10/06/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did he say 15ml?  I had to do a double take.  That's like, way WAY too much.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Staffros]
    #23712926 - 10/06/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Staffros said: Is it ok to mention where I purchased the spores? does that often make a difference?.




It's a bad idea because it provides circumstantial evidence against the vendor in question.
It's also disallowed by the rules.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: Greg]
    #23712929 - 10/06/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

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15ml of spores per 8oz jar




This is bad.
The mushrooms spores are collected from are grown in open air.
Open air has all sorts of nasties (mold, bacteria, yeast, etc.)
The more spores you use, the higher likelihood you've just introduced contaminants.

You can literally use less than a drop:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=23645997

Not to mention that's quite a bit of liquid you're adding to the media.



Also
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21365919#21365919


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23712935 - 10/06/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I always forget about that post...
It's what inspired me to do the same with a syringe haha.


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Re: Hello, New user, and first time grower [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23712939 - 10/06/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok I got it in the future I will us a lot less. Not like I would complain about that, that just makes this experiment even cheaper.


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