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viktor
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If you could change any one thing about the world
#23711550 - 10/05/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What would it be? And:
Can you justify to others that this change should be made or is it just your own whim?
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DividedQuantum
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: viktor] 1
#23711566 - 10/05/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Purely as a hypothetical, I would wave my wand and reduce the global population level to 100 million or less. That right there would have dozens of spinoff advantages which would solve many other currently intractable problems as well.
I could justify it by pointing out how many issues we currently face that it would resolve. I don't think such an idea is whimsical.
Hypothetically.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711604 - 10/05/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would have every human see all other humans as absolute equals.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711634 - 10/05/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: Purely as a hypothetical, I would wave my wand and reduce the global population level to 100 million or less. That right there would have dozens of spinoff advantages which would solve many other currently intractable problems as well.
I could justify it by pointing out how many issues we currently face that it would resolve. I don't think such an idea is whimsical.
Hypothetically.
Or make the earth bigger? That would probably cause more problems though.
I'd say make it so we don't need to sleep.
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#23711663 - 10/05/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would change our biology, rewiring the human brain to give the largest dopamine release from genuine good deeds performed out of selfless compassion and giving migraines when malicious acts are carried out. This would create a world full of 'drug addicts' who must help thy neighbour in order to get their fix.
There are many potential benifits of this change. The monetary system would be obsolete, our destructive nature towards ourselves, others and the environment would become the complete opposite, poverty would become a distant memory and we would all have the strong motivation to work together as a species to care for each other and achieve amazing things.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Tuhdoww]
#23711664 - 10/05/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tuhdoww said: Or make the earth bigger? That would probably cause more problems though.
I think that would definitely cause more problems.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#23711672 - 10/05/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: I would change our biology, rewiring the human brain to give the largest dopamine release from genuine good deeds performed out of selfless compassion
Very interesting thought experiment. Makes me wonder if we were once inherently wired this way, but a corruption of our wiring system is being caused by the way we have been living for so long - probably due to our overpopulation.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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zZZz
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: viktor] 1
#23711708 - 10/05/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd definitely change the people who think they own it, I'd take it from them and give it back to the people so that everyone has equal ownership over the world. It's absolutely ridiculous that I can step anywhere in the world and it will be owned by someone. I can go out to the middle of no where, where there appears to be no sign of life. and it will be owned by someone.
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23711745 - 10/05/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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wolfiewolfie said: I would change our biology, rewiring the human brain to give the largest dopamine release from genuine good deeds performed out of selfless compassion
Very interesting thought experiment. Makes me wonder if we were once inherently wired this way, but a corruption of our wiring system is being caused by the way we have been living for so long - probably due to our overpopulation.
It's defiantly a possibility. It would explain some things, such as the building of the pyramids. Maybe there were no 'slaves' and everyone just wanted to do their part to get their dopamine fix?
A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#23712166 - 10/06/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
I wish I could believe so, I really do, but brainwashing seems a remarkably effective tool to control most humans. Some kind of sheep/follow the crowd physchology I guess. Is what it is. I think we're way to far gone, and the powers of control way too influential, for there to be a way out of our current situation without a global disaster of some sort.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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sudly
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: viktor]
#23712171 - 10/06/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Legalize and regulate all entheogens and see where it goes because people shouldn't be stopped from exploring their own minds.
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tump
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: sudly]
#23712217 - 10/06/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id do one of two things . 1 id wipe out all apes including is humans form the planet earth. It would restore the nature over time. Or 2, id change this world where no one ages nor can they die nor give birth. That ones on a whip
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Brian Jones
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#23712253 - 10/06/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said:
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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wolfiewolfie said: I would change our biology, rewiring the human brain to give the largest dopamine release from genuine good deeds performed out of selfless compassion
Very interesting thought experiment. Makes me wonder if we were once inherently wired this way, but a corruption of our wiring system is being caused by the way we have been living for so long - probably due to our overpopulation.
It's defiantly a possibility. It would explain some things, such as the building of the pyramids. Maybe there were no 'slaves' and everyone just wanted to do their part to get their dopamine fix?
A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
I don't think that the people who built the pyramids just wanted to do their part. I go with the prevailing theories that they were worked to death. But there probably is no way to know for sure.
I keep thinking about the Neil Young song Cortez the Killer (different pyramids entirely, and a brilliant song title) but Neil made the Aztecs out to be wonderful and Cortez and the Spanish to be horrible; I think they were both brutal.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23712387 - 10/06/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
I wish I could believe so, I really do, but brainwashing seems a remarkably effective tool to control most humans. Some kind of sheep/follow the crowd physchology I guess. Is what it is. I think we're way to far gone, and the powers of control way too influential, for there to be a way out of our current situation without a global disaster of some sort.
I think the main problem is that you have to rewire your own brain, which is a paradox because the 'you' doing the rewiring is the same 'you' that is in need of rewiring.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: wolfiewolfie] 1
#23712478 - 10/06/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't think of just one thing.
Biology: make it so that you could use lysergic psychedelics every day with no tolerance effects (maybe this is engineering).
Engineering: if only we had woven fibers that can react to assume different rigidity and elasticity - so your clothes can be an extension of your volition, and act like instant kevlar when under attack.
Politics: surely we could have better use of the web to engage realistic participatory democracy by all interested individuals (maybe this is engineering).
Basic Human Rights: extend to include water, food, clothing, housing, higher & lower education, medical services.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23712513 - 10/06/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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wolfiewolfie said: A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
I wish I could believe so, I really do, but brainwashing seems a remarkably effective tool to control most humans. Some kind of sheep/follow the crowd physchology I guess. Is what it is. I think we're way to far gone, and the powers of control way too influential, for there to be a way out of our current situation without a global disaster of some sort.
The only thing that ever really precipitates major change is a crisis.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: viktor]
#23712520 - 10/06/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make it so everyone knows how they got here and what happens when you die.
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23712546 - 10/06/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A more revelant question would be is it possible to rewire our brains on a large enough scale to have a positive impact on the world or are we too divided, manipulated and corrupted to achieve this?
I wish I could believe so, I really do, but brainwashing seems a remarkably effective tool to control most humans. Some kind of sheep/follow the crowd physchology I guess. Is what it is. I think we're way to far gone, and the powers of control way too influential, for there to be a way out of our current situation without a global disaster of some sort.
The only thing that ever really precipitates major change is a crisis.
That is usually the case, but sometimes historically I think greed leads to major change.
-------------------- "The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body" John Lennon I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either. The worst thing about corruption is that it works so well,
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: Brian Jones]
#23712954 - 10/06/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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it aint the world at fault if by world is meant the natural. The 'world', the one they call 'the real 'world' is what I hate. it is the world of ruthless profiteering, and pushing toxic myths, and all forms of poisoning, murder, maiming, genocide, ecocide.
However, we all have free will.
As I see it the problem is when thinking becomes dissociated from the organism, and thus the organism in relation to other organisms and the environment
you can see how those with power seem to WANT to keep this evil crap going on and hence their fanatical war on psychedelics for ALL. Knowing that, as I hope most here do, that psychedelics inspire this wholistic ecstatic sense of the whole organism being in deep interrelationship with the whole environment
THEY, the ruling class evil dead-head fkers, do not want that natural freedom being accessible. IMAGINE waging war against plants like cannabis and fungi. Look at the insanity of that!
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Re: If you could change any one thing about the world [Re: zzripz]
#23713038 - 10/06/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We're desensitized to the shit.
We're desensitized to the word desensitized.. No one wants to hear that shit anymore cuz fuck u lemme alone..
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