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Lavendar
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First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route?
#23710966 - 10/05/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So my friend is going to grow for me and I don't know where to start. I heard you could do it for $40 but I'm not sure where or how.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Edited by Lavendar (10/05/16 06:58 PM)
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Inocuole
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Lavendar]
#23711027 - 10/05/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your friend is going to grow for you then why are you asking the questions? I wouldn't even recommend letting a friend know you grow at all, or the other way around. I wouldn't trust anybody but myself to grow properly anyway, seeing how many ways there are to mess things up.
Nobody is going to recommend a grow kit on a cultivation forum..
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
I'd recommend giving that a read through. It would help if it seemed like you were interested in trying. I get the distinct vibe you expect the answers handed to you though.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Inocuole]
#23711204 - 10/05/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: If your friend is going to grow for you then why are you asking the questions? I wouldn't even recommend letting a friend know you grow at all, or the other way around. I wouldn't trust anybody but myself to grow properly anyway, seeing how many ways there are to mess things up.
Nobody is going to recommend a grow kit on a cultivation forum..
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
I'd recommend giving that a read through. It would help if it seemed like you were interested in trying. I get the distinct vibe you expect the answers handed to you though.
Gotta learn how to do it yourself. Grow kits are scams and just a waste of money and time OP. this dude ^^^^^
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Kalsticky]
#23711286 - 10/05/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read and use the search engine here, and read some of the more recent teks and posts. If you don't understand why kits are bad and have somewhat of a self sustaining battle plan the first couple days of your research, -then- reach out for help on what you need to do.
Learning cult isn't as easy as buying a growkit and being done with it. This hobby isn't about instant gratification and if you aren't at least interested in knowing the processes and enjoy learning about them, then you shouldn't be really doing it. It's going to be hard for you to succeed
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Mushierage]
#23711496 - 10/05/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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40 bucks isnt a good starting point. Easier cheaper way start out with a pc cost 70bucks. Case of jars 10 dallors, silicone 4 bucks. Spore syringe 10 dallors. Bag of grains is 5 dallors. Rubbing achol and lighter is 2 bucks. Plastic tote is 5 dallors. Bricks of coir three pack is 6 bucks. 5 gallon bucket for many uses is 3 dallors. That is the bare min cost of a grow is about 114 dallors starting out. If you want a safer nicer grow then get in agar, still air box, and more cost.
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Kalsticky
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: tump]
#23712270 - 10/06/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: 40 bucks isnt a good starting point. Easier cheaper way start out with a pc cost 70bucks. Case of jars 10 dallors, silicone 4 bucks. Spore syringe 10 dallors. Bag of grains is 5 dallors. Rubbing achol and lighter is 2 bucks. Plastic tote is 5 dallors. Bricks of coir three pack is 6 bucks. 5 gallon bucket for many uses is 3 dallors. That is the bare min cost of a grow is about 114 dallors starting out. If you want a safer nicer grow then get in agar, still air box, and more cost.
Spore syringes are around 17 dollars now from a good reputable vendor.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Kalsticky]
#23712280 - 10/06/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not really if your just getting one maybe but last ones i got form a shroomery vendor was 4.15 a syringe with no shipping. First syringe i got was 10 bucks back then. All things on my list can be shopped around cheaper but that's more of a luck and skill
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: tump]
#23712298 - 10/06/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: Not really if your just getting one maybe but last ones i got form a shroomery vendor was 4.15 a syringe with no shipping. First syringe i got was 10 bucks back then. All things on my list can be shopped around cheaper but that's more of a luck and skill
The place i get it from have been around since 98 and they printed some of the cubes that people use now. I trust them a lot. Everytime i get their spores its always thick with them and not mostly water like some of these other vendors. Plus they fill the syringes up to 11cc usually. Theyre a good, trusted company who will always help if theres troubles.
-------------------- "Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering its a feather bed.” ― Terence McKenna
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Edited by Kalsticky (10/06/16 07:40 AM)
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PortabellaFella 1
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: tump]
#23712301 - 10/06/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The best part about buying all the start up materials.......you have them when you or your "friend" want to grow again.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: tump]
#23712433 - 10/06/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right a pc, jars, buckets, totes all reusable.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Kalsticky]
#23712759 - 10/06/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kalsticky said:
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tump said: Not really if your just getting one maybe but last ones i got form a shroomery vendor was 4.15 a syringe with no shipping. First syringe i got was 10 bucks back then. All things on my list can be shopped around cheaper but that's more of a luck and skill
The place i get it from have been around since 98 and they printed some of the cubes that people use now. I trust them a lot. Everytime i get their spores its always thick with them and not mostly water like some of these other vendors. Plus they fill the syringes up to 11cc usually. Theyre a good, trusted company who will always help if theres troubles.
The best syringes are not over loaded. Noobs want dark ass syringes don't realize that less is more with spores. Super loaded syringes have greater chances of contamination and are counterproductive when used as inoculant,
You want a syringe to be mostly water.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23712819 - 10/06/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Search "pf tek" and go from there. The only thing I suggest buying premade is brf jars from an shroomery vendor. That makes it easy your first time. Then you can do it on your own after you have gained that experience.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: WonderNads]
#23712842 - 10/06/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only thing I suggest buying premade is brf jars from an shroomery vendor.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Greg]
#23713486 - 10/06/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah... no. No premade anything.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Inocuole]
#23713507 - 10/06/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol at premade brf jars wtf. Buy a jar, buy brf, verm, pour a cup of water, steam done.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23713563 - 10/06/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously... Start out using this tek. Learn the basics and then move on. It's super easy.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Boogens]
#23713826 - 10/06/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kits suck (as you've probably heard by now) anyway, but good luck finding a good one for 40 bucks. You can do a lot more with 40 bucks, like:
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Kenetic]
#23713833 - 10/06/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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And like buying 200lbs of grain.
Or 5 dozen mason jars.
3 bottles of premixed agar?
Or some of each. Then you win for reals.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Mushierage]
#23714706 - 10/06/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys are funny and can be quite a bit snobbish sometimes. The jars are a very easy way to get someone in the hobby. Do I do that? No. I only do bulk now. But this was directed at someone who wants to try it simply first. It was just a suggestion to ease him into the hobby. I know I wish I had more friendly support when I was starting.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: WonderNads]
#23714708 - 10/06/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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after you're around a while and on this side of the line you won't find it snobbish at all. it's so ridiculously fucking easy to make some jars that it's more insulting to use premade than how our words often get interpreted.
grilledcheesery.org/forums
hey I'm interested in trying out a grilled cheese, I don't know which strain to pick. Munster, cheddar, Gouda. soo many which ones most scrumptious. which substrate makes the best grilled cheeses, rye toast, oat toast, or WBS toast?
should I just buy a pre-made sandwich from the grocery store? they're like 5-10$ for one sandwich,
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just fucking put some cheese between the bread people.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23715119 - 10/07/16 04:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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why don't people understand this
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23715295 - 10/07/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: after you're around a while and on this side of the line you won't find it snobbish at all. it's so ridiculously fucking easy to make some jars that it's more insulting to use premade than how our words often get interpreted.
grilledcheesery.org/forums
hey I'm interested in trying out a grilled cheese, I don't know which strain to pick. Munster, cheddar, Gouda. soo many which ones most scrumptious. which substrate makes the best grilled cheeses, rye toast, oat toast, or WBS toast?
should I just buy a pre-made sandwich from the grocery store? they're like 5-10$ for one sandwich,
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just fucking put some cheese between the bread people.
... This is a good post.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: Inocuole]
#23715733 - 10/07/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hear ya, and agree ultimately. My very first time i was so overwhelmed with concerns about sterility and screwing up, that i bought some premade sterile jars to alleviate my stress. Once i was successful with that, i was hooked and had the confidence to do it all myself and haven't looked back. You can buy a couple premade jars, a ms syringe, a small tote, perlite, spray bottle and foil for under $40. That's all. Not going to argue it, it's just a very easy, cost effective, safe option for someone's very first time. Kits themselves are indeed a big waste. Again, i hear ya.
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Re: First Time Growing. Grow Kits? 40 route? [Re: WonderNads]
#23715801 - 10/07/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The price of a few premade jars costs about the same as like 20+ diy jars and you've no idea if the ones your buying are any good. Its just some person like you and me knocking them up in their kitchen, they ain't made in some special hermetically sealed lab. I gotta admit when I saw the cost of premades I had the naughty thought of selling them too, the profits are pretty good but tbh I can't be arsed.
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