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beforethedawn
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It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise 3
#23710396 - 10/05/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Humanity is in a weird stage.
History is extremely young.
We don't even realise we are divinities yet as part of cultural knowledge (in the West), we have no idea what the world is, and all our science is going the other direction by denying experience.
Turiya, enlightenment . . . all these religious practices were just meant to point out Who you are, Who you are one with for all eternity.
Which is Richard Nixon.
...I mean God.
hawhaw
Anyway,
People simply need to realise there is nothing to doubt. Our current state of fear is self-perpetuating, and it's the only thing that perpetuates it. The owners of the world's banks, governments, etc. are also scared and confused, most likely mentally ill.
We're just running around in fear when everything is perfect.
We're going to figure it out, world peace will definitely be achieved. We really have no choice, twice enacted - you have no choice but to be God, and no choice but peace, as annihilation is imminent.
This will be easy.
Everything negative is something in yourself, return to God/Self and purify it out, and that's the end of your suffering and you will enhance the consciousness of the planet, sending out vibes.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: beforethedawn] 1
#23710419 - 10/05/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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beforethedawn said: Everything negative is something in yourself, return to God/Self and purify it out, and that's the end of your suffering
Overcoming the need for shoes isn't that easy.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: beforethedawn]
#23710456 - 10/05/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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(return to God/Self and purify it out)*, and that's the end of your suffering
Morphine*
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sudly
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: beforethedawn]
#23710501 - 10/05/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The atmosphere has reach 400ppm of carbon dioxide so the tipping point really is now.
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demiu5
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: sudly]
#23710518 - 10/05/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: The atmosphere has reach 400ppm of carbon dioxide so the tipping point really is now.
this train ain't stopping till it runs off the cliff or completely out of available resources (which is a long way off)
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: demiu5]
#23710557 - 10/05/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Resource wise that may be true but with the rate at which the effects of climate change are growing it's a likelihood that society collapses by 2050.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: sudly]
#23710639 - 10/05/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Surely society will exist, if in a different context.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: Buster_Brown]
#23710795 - 10/05/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seeing as climate change effects different regions of the world to different degrees it's true that some societies will remain better than others.
One issue facing the world is water shortage issues in places like Africa, it's possible for wars over water to emerge in highly drought stricken regions.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: sudly]
#23710906 - 10/05/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: Resource wise that may be true but with the rate at which the effects of climate change are growing it's a likelihood that society collapses by 2050.
that would be included in the "running off the cliff" scenario
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: demiu5]
#23710958 - 10/05/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, my point was that it's not far off.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: sudly]
#23711124 - 10/05/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really think this is here for a reason though. I think there's something to understand about it.
I think we're all supposed to be a bit shamanistic. Because we're just consumers, life is terrible compared to what it could be.
But again, life is a kind of joke God is playing on itself.
I think it will all change. I don't know the maths on resources but I bet it's fixable if we come together.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: beforethedawn]
#23711259 - 10/05/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah, I think humans are just fucking up bigtime. There is horrible injustice, and to take your stance is to willingly allow it to continue. I'm not an activist (though I try to hold onto the right ideas), but I think activism is wholly preferable to the passivity you promulgate.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711448 - 10/05/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said:I'm not an activist (though I try to hold onto the right ideas), but I think activism is wholly preferable to the passivity you promulgate.
So doing nothing but sitting on your arse and judge others is the way to go?
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: viktor]
#23711474 - 10/05/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was just pointing out that I think activism is a more noble pursuit than OP's suggestion, which really is to sit on your arse. Currently there are no opportunities in my area to do much, but I have volunteered in the past.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711487 - 10/05/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I take the middle ground on this; I sign many petitions and donate money to activist groups. I have, and will, take to the streets. However I also feel that working on oneself internally, with the net result of sending out far more 'positive ripples' than many, is a truly noble pursuit.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23711492 - 10/05/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I take the middle ground on this; I sign many petitions and donate money to activist groups. I have, and will, take to the streets. However I also feel that working on oneself internally, with the net result of sending out far more 'positive ripples' than many, is a truly noble pursuit.
Yeah, and I think that's a lot better than just saying everything is "perfect," which is nonsense.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711546 - 10/05/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys are overthinking it, as usual.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23711590 - 10/05/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: Nah, I think humans are just fucking up bigtime. There is horrible injustice.....
agreed, wholeheartedly. just don't forget, you and i are essentially an equal part of the fucking-up
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....and to take your stance is to willingly allow it to continue. I'm not an activist (though I try to hold onto the right ideas), but I think activism is wholly preferable to the passivity you promulgate.
it's not a matter of taking a stance, in this situation. 99.5% (modest guesstimate) of us are culpable members of the problem. nothing short of a complete reversal of just about everything WE know and do throughout life would alter that culpability. in short, activism (activists) may help curb an almost insignificant portion of the "fucking-up." certainly that's good for some emotional gratification. mutual masturbation never hurt anyone.
passivity is not that big of a problem, imo; not like activity geared in the right direction, on a global level, will help much at this point. however, i'm of the hedonistic verging on semi-nihilistic/semi-stoic camp. if shit's not able to be reverted/restored to what it was even just 150-250 years ago, then fuck it! let's enjoy the ever-loving-shit out of this experience we call life and consistently/chronically take for granted, while aiming to reduce the harm we induce.
i see this daily living in the rainforest (or what was once rainforest, with patches here and there) and working fuel reduction/forest restoration. i could destroy my body working 5-6 days/week for the rest of my life by myself, and maybe restore ~80 acres of land total to how it was before white-men cut down all the ancient-growth and old-growth trees. taking the whole of registered citizens in southern humboldt (let's say ~6k people excluding elderly/disabled/non-working youth) throughout their lifetimes working 5-6 days a week, you're still only looking at under 600k acres that would be restored/thinned. and this is inaccurate, as previously thinned places need to be cleaned repeatedly every 5-15 years (thank god for wildfire!). this is one example covering a few million square acres of one of the largest states in the USA, which isn't that large in the scheme of the world (or the Amazon rainforest which is all but gone, compared to its history)
the planet is not fucked. the planet will recover. it has been through much, much worse, many times. the species of this planet will be significantly reduced beyond the number it already has the last 100+ years. that will only allow future species more resources and room to expand.
you'll have to forgive the blocky-ranting. i went a little hedonistic this evening and drank some dark, strong beers, while eating soon-to-be-extinct species of sea-life.
 
don't think we can go back. don't think homo sapiens sapiens can really recover from this. we will survive, genetically, until even our dna alters beyond the point of this current sub-species and the next homo probably eradicates us like the lineage of homo suggests.
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: demiu5]
#23711602 - 10/05/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice post D. What sea life are you helping to bring towards extinction tonight?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: It's all going to turn around, this is pointless suffering, we're going to realise [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#23711615 - 10/05/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: However I also feel that working on oneself internally, with the net result of sending out far more 'positive ripples' than many, is a truly noble pursuit.
i really, really like this line of thinking, and wish it were how it was. i also am not going to discredit this statement, because i don't want to be that person right this second. however, i want you to consider something.
a ripple on open water can spread until the energy pushing the ripple completely disperses. a ripple in a sea of obstacles, especially negativity, is much less likely able to spread.
food for thought
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Jokeshopbeard said: Nice post D. What sea life are you helping to bring towards extinction tonight?
cod and calamari
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