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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23709061 - 10/05/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Shit, a lot of the people who ARE working have illicit second jobs


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23709069 - 10/05/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not surprised.  Where the needs and wants of people are not fulfilled legally they sure get filled illegally.  Surely the Government trying to ignore human desire doesn't get anything done.


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23709509 - 10/05/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

jobless economy = oxymoron

if you allow machines to take over, mankind will die.

insanity or sloth will be their end.

life is work

the only "jobless economy" on this planet would be every organism living in harmony with their environment.

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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: nothing exists]
    #23709888 - 10/05/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe flooding the country with cheap labor wasn't such a good idea:shrug:


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23710056 - 10/05/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe flooding the country with cheap labor wasn't such a good idea:shrug:




It's exactly the thing that made America great.  Cheap working immigrants.  Problem is it never really got out of that and the people born here expect a little greater life.  Can't keep flooding with people fresh off the banana boat either.

I am watching a show on Chinese workers in Russia.  Russia is seriously hurting from the sanctions by the west.  Chinese money is looking pretty good to them and so are their workers.  I think the west is fucking themselves as they love to do to make a point.  Russia and China could become very strong.  Even the analysis from military publications I read think the states couldn't take the combo.  China must be getting something from lending us money all the time.  Can't figure out why they would loan money to their enemy to build a military that is trying to defeat them.


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23710138 - 10/05/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe flooding the country with cheap labor wasn't such a good idea:shrug:




It's exactly the thing that made America great.  Cheap working immigrants.  Problem is it never really got out of that and the people born here expect a little greater life.  Can't keep flooding with people fresh off the banana boat either.

I am watching a show on Chinese workers in Russia.  Russia is seriously hurting from the sanctions by the west.  Chinese money is looking pretty good to them and so are their workers.  I think the west is fucking themselves as they love to do to make a point.  Russia and China could become very strong.  Even the analysis from military publications I read think the states couldn't take the combo.  China must be getting something from lending us money all the time.  Can't figure out why they would loan money to their enemy to build a military that is trying to defeat them.




China is basically forced to buy US/EU bonds to maintain the currency manipulation scheme. China wants a weak currency relative to the US dollar (Euro and Yen), that enables China to be a manufacturing exporting giant in the global economy.

The have hundreds of millions of people that need employment, they have no other choice at this point.

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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: qman]
    #23710144 - 10/05/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good for China. Fucking over everyone else to help their own people. Just as nature intended.


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23710156 - 10/05/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Good for China. Fucking over everyone else to help their own people. Just as nature intended.




Well, they keep the wages down and try to maintain the high profit margins, Chinese, US and global elites are on the same page.

The problem, Chinese consumption is still weak and the developed world is going broke, it can't last.

Chinese workers would love to have more purchasing power but their government won't let it happen, but then again they could lose their jobs to Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, ect.  :shrug:

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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23710325 - 10/05/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats a good point as well, fal.


But you have to admit we're moving towards a situation a labor based economy will be largely nonexistent. What then?



If the time ever comes (I doubt we'll see it in our lifetimes), then the Government needs to mandate a shorter work week for everyone and a higher minimum wage to compensate.




I'm with ya
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME!
Say it with me liberals

The growth of technology is exponential and unstoppable. Mass technological unemployment is gonna happen during our lives (assuming u are under 40) whether you like it or not.



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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23710983 - 10/05/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Good for China. Fucking over everyone else to help their own people. Just as nature intended.




Democrats do it everyday


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: qman]
    #23711570 - 10/05/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Good for China. Fucking over everyone else to help their own people. Just as nature intended.




Well, they keep the wages down and try to maintain the high profit margins, Chinese, US and global elites are on the same page.

The problem, Chinese consumption is still weak and the developed world is going broke, it can't last.






Decent analysis



Two words brah!

1. Neoliberalism


2. The Global Minotaur

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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23716448 - 10/07/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha the world is so fucked right now.

At least we're talking about it.


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23718587 - 10/08/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is it possible that mankind will simply consume more (and increasingly sophisticated) products that
will always require human labor? Well at least until we reach the singularity and AI rockets past
every facet of human intelligence

Even today we are seeing a bit of a shift to a medieval type economy, with increasing numbers
of people buying and producing "artisan" or organic beer/cheese/furniture/vegetables/bread


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: Crumist]
    #23718772 - 10/08/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone on Star Trek had a job, and that is constantly touted as an example of our utopian future


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23718973 - 10/08/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone on Star Trek had a job, and that is constantly touted as an example of our utopian future




Everyone on Star Trek had a job doing what they wanted.  They had jobs to pass the time, not to make money to survive/buy trinkets


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #23719055 - 10/08/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Star Trek also exists in an egalitarian (cough communist cough) society.


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23719318 - 10/08/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone on Star Trek had a job, and that is constantly touted as an example of our utopian future



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Star Trek also exists in an egalitarian (cough communist cough) society.




THats what I said:shrug:


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23719546 - 10/08/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Egalitarian =/= 100% employment


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23719805 - 10/08/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Egalitarian =/= 100% employment




I never see unemployed people on there:shrug:


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Re: The Jobless Economy Is Fast Approaching. Whats The Plan? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23719831 - 10/08/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I dont see any unemployed people in Django Unchained, either.


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