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ComebackKid
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23713653 - 10/06/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I figured the title was getting a little wordy so I trimmed it up a bit. Next edit I'll put an apostrophe in there to give the CBK possession (just for the grammar nazis)
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23764273 - 10/23/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This looks really good, but I've read a few posts saying that standing water close to cakes is, "asking for contamination". Is this true? Have you had any problems with this? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: Caledscratch] 2
#23764309 - 10/23/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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When bottom watering you may want to pour off excess not soaked up in 12-24 hr. Just don't want noobs thinking it's OK to leave cakes in a constant pool of water. The goal is to add extra moisture for the fruits while they are fruiting. Never forget evaporation is a pinning trigger, we want to encourage pinning when they cakes are not actively fruiting. Which is why we dunk and roll. To fully hydrate the cakes and have extra water for fruits and to allow for evaporation. There is a optimal balance.
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: Caledscratch]
#23764312 - 10/23/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The water is fine as long as the cakes are "drinking" it. That's why it's important not to fill the dishes until your cakes develop a pinset.
Before your pinset, the dishes may collect a bit of water from misting but not enough to be concerned about. It will evaporate along with the surface moisture.
It is also important to remember to change the water every day or so if your cakes aren't drinking it fast enough. I currently am filling my dishes every 12 hours because my cakes are using it faster than I would need to change it
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23764339 - 10/23/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unless there's a hole in it
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid] 1
#23764385 - 10/23/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just thought I would add that I started using this last week and the cakes have been drinking it up. And they seem very healthy too. So thanks!!
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On the one hand it's sad that something this simple needs it's own tek. . .on the other hand I'm tired of describing this to people over and over again. Now I can just link this.
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Glad to hear it's working out and you're noticing results! Share some pics of those babys 
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Yeeeeaaaahhhh...
Thanks Pasty! Good to see it's got your "EZ seal of approval" hahaaa
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23764570 - 10/23/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love this, good shit CBK! Having cakes sit in saucers and filling the saucer with water once the cake starts pinning should absolutely become a necessary and mandatory practice for sure, I'm right with you on that one. I love how you have brought the practice of bottom watering cakes to attention, that's brilliant of you, thank you CBK!
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ComebackKid said: I want to make bottom watering as easy and readily available as I can for newcomers and all PF cake growers alike. I believe it should be common practice like the dunk & roll.
Quoted for truth, as do I. But may I please propose an easier and more sensible approach. No need to use any foil, no having to even worry about the foil taring and leaking, no need to have to even make anything (as easy as it would be to follow your tek), no need to re-use foil if the foil tares, no having to ever re-make the saucer.
Granted that the plastic lid is large enough to fit a cake into, I would propose using plastic lids.
 
You can also kill two birds with one stone.

Convenient, reusable, washable, no having to wasting foil on making saucers out of jar lids and rings, so why not?
You can edit the fact that you can use plastic lids into the OP if you wish CBK, I think that would be an excellent ideal and extremely cool of you to have that information more easily accessible in the OP.
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: AllDay420]
#23764586 - 10/23/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Your lucky this ain't a Morty thread
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23764607 - 10/23/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Your lucky this ain't a Morty thread
Explain. What would have happened if this was a Morty thread?
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: AllDay420]
#23764632 - 10/23/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You don't wanna know
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23764666 - 10/23/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meh waste of time bro, nothing productive or anything one would assume. I guess I'll just have to look up Morty myself, read some of him posts and find out myself what Morty would have said if you refuse to tell me, then again I don't feel like wasting my time so I probably will not. I don't know who Morty is, but by the sounds of it he's a resident troll or something? Either way, whatever man I don't really care enough to find out for myself at this point, either tell me or don't, this probably has nothing to do with the topic anyway. If it does, my apologies, please prove me wrong.
Now back to the topic of bottom watering cakes please. What's the point of changing the water in the saucer every 24 hours?
Say a cake does not drink it's water in 24 hours...
Like what is the actual point of tipping what water that the cake did not drink out and filling it up with new water?
I see no logic in it. Why not just fill the saucer up to the top along with what water was left in the saucer so that you don't not waste any water?
I mean if a cake drinks all the water in less than 24hours it is a given that you must fill it back up with water once there is very little, or no water left.
But if there was say, half the water left why would you tip it out and fill it with new water, why not just leave the existing water in and fill it to the top.
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: AllDay420] 1
#23764669 - 10/23/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Standing water breeds bacteria
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23764682 - 10/23/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Standing water breeds bacteria
Ahh but of course, true that. Right you are!
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: AllDay420]
#23764718 - 10/23/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just good practice to be on the safe side
I updated the OP thanks for the suggestion. I was coincidentally thinking about peanut butter lids this morning at breakfast after Mazdar mentioned he had a hole in his foil.
Also I believe he was referring to This thread. But thanks for keeping us on topic
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#23764754 - 10/23/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just good practice to be on the safe side
Yeah word. You could even use the leftover water in the saucer for something else, that way it's better.
Reduce, re-use, re-cycle was my main concern, humans are un-necessary wasters of resources.
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ComebackKid said: I updated the OP thanks for the suggestion. I was coincidentally thinking about peanut butter lids this morning at breakfast after Mazdar mentioned he had a hole in his foil.
 No coincidence, great minds think alike. I'm just glad I could enforce your attention to update the OP going over the use of plastic lids, plastic lids as saucers are a much needed mention in your tek for sure.
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ComebackKid said: Also I believe he was referring to This thread. But thanks for keeping us on topic
Thank you, that saves me the itch in the back of my head wondering what that Morty thing is about. And you are welcome.
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: AllDay420]
#23785795 - 10/30/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How full should the foil dish be? I personally used an old empty syringe and did about 8cc worth. Is that okay?
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#23786012 - 10/30/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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have you tried just fruiting cased grain? Less effort, can still use SGFC
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#23786176 - 10/30/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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lovelaughlibs said: How full should the foil dish be?
1) Make sure you put the cake in the dish first. 2) Fill to the top of the dish with water.
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