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PanMan
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Panaeolus Cyanescens - ID Request
#23708920 - 10/05/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Habitat:
Near cow, horse and water buffalo pasture. This entire flush was growing on scattered dung laying on top of a side walk located one yard/meter from the nearest grazing pasture where a cow and her calf were present.

Gills:
Gray and mottled appearance.

Stem:
Thin and slightly enlarged at the base with a color similar to the outer edges of the cap. Stained blue where bruised.

Cap:
The majority of the mushrooms that were collected are small. The incurved margin of the cap that is light brown to caramel in color is indicative of a young panaeolus cyanescens mushroom.
Spore print color:
In the process of making them, however, considering their size, I presume it wont be a thick spore print. My intuition and informed opinion tells me they'll be black.


Bruising:
Dark blue, blue, and black on them stem and some caps.
The image above show just the stems after they have been removed from their caps.
Other information:
It appears that there have been numerous flushes on this patch of dung of at least two species. For simplicity sake several didn't turn blue when the stem and cap were pinched and their appearance was all white (not a Death Cap) and you can see them in the header habitat image, so I discarded them and exclusively kept the mushrooms that did bruise the colors of an active species (pictured top right and left on header habitat image).




Edited by PanMan (10/21/16 08:06 AM)
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens - ID Request [Re: PanMan]
#23708935 - 10/05/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Suffice to say you've got a dung-loving Panaeolus sp. which apparently bruises blue. Your pictures however aren't the greatest, so I won't vouch for all the specimens.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens - ID Request [Re: Anglerfish]
#23708974 - 10/05/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Being a rookie hunter and have yet to consume any psychedelics in my life, 80+ hours of hunting, many kilometers walked in wet socks and muddy shoes from the flooded pastures, several water buffalo and bulls posturing and charging me, 200 non-actives self identified and tossed, at least 1,000 wild dung patties encountered some with cup fungi and others baron of any fungus, and 150+ hours obsessively reading any and all content the Shroomery has to offer on its message boards for identification, cultivation, invaluable advice and trip reports - The persistence and journey less traveled has brought about some magic, and my first post worthy ID request here for an ID of an active. My mushroom schemata has been developed by experts here at Shroomery, a tremendous and big THANK YOU is in order for this community! I now know the feeling to hold what I've been studying, I damn near cried! HAHA. I'm incredibly excited that I have finally found actives!
When I first saw them as I approached that dung pile my heart jumped out of my chest! I am a bit disappointed that I harvested them before they became mature, but considering they were on a side walk and the heat of the day could potentially dry them out and even kill the mycelium, I had no other recourse but to snag them with an impulse similar to a snatcher in a mosh pit.
AnglerFish, I appreciate the ID, thank you. I apologize about the pictures and I do understand you can't vouch for all of them. I'll upload clearer images specifically showcasing the gills, spore print and cap within the day.
Edited by PanMan (10/05/16 06:15 AM)
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens - ID Request [Re: PanMan]
#23708997 - 10/05/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should return to the spot and scoop up some of that dung, then put it in a plastic container with small air holes.
Might leave you with more fruits.
As for you being completely inexperienced with psychedelics, you should be aware that the species you've found is one of the (maybe even the) most potent ones. Don't go beyond half a gram of dried ones for your first experience.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens - ID Request [Re: Anglerfish]
#23709802 - 10/05/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are the updated images of the caps, gills, and stems for identification. Please let me know what your thoughts are about them.


















The four hour window for spore prints has passed. I've now placed all caps back underneath four Ball Pints for more spore prints. The prints in the pictures are not thick. Nearly all the small caps had no visible spore prints, however, the caps that did drop some came out a noticeable black.



It's worth mentioning that the stems have became much darker in appearance, a combined dark blue with black heavy bruising. All of the caps pictured in this post came from the below pictured stems.

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Anglerfish said: As for you being completely inexperienced with psychedelics, you should be aware that the species you've found is one of the (maybe even the) most potent ones. Don't go beyond half a gram of dried ones for your first experience.
I made it a personal mission to hunt for Panaelous Cyanecsens (or for it to find me), and I'm aware that it's among the most potent active mushrooms on the planet right up there with (or ) Psylocybe Azurecens gram for gram.
It may be deemed rather peculiar, prior to Shroomery I had no external influence from people, peers or TV to encourage consumption of psychedelics. I just woke up one day and said to myself "what one thing can I do today that will assist me in understanding my mind, the world and its unique cultures and life, and our place in this universe compared to what I know of all that now?" Then a eureka moment dawned upon me immediately, the internal dialogue went like this: "Find out as much as you can about the most potent psychedelic mushrooms. Get them and eat'em! Whoa!? Wait... What did you just say to yourself? Pff. Okay. Go for it but have a strategy."
Yes, you are correct Anglerfish. The inexperience of me. The following analogy is suiting for me or anyone that has willingly committed to seek and ingest psychedelics for the first time (I am talking to all you Shroomery lurkers out there scanning page 1 through 3 of the recent posts of this ID forum); I am new to the building first day on the job, I intend to take the stairs, step-by-step to learn about each level and what's there instead entering the elevator straight to level 5 when starting out.
I've read delightful and dreadful trip reports of rookie's who bit off more than they can chew, and chewed anyway, but only then to realize the profound of effects landing them straight into absolute self-induced terror that could have been prevented with some education of how to involve oneself with active mushrooms.
I made it a personal promise that I wouldn't do anything with psychedelics out of pure naivete and wanting to just get high for the sake of suppressing underlying issues of undeveloped interpersonal skills or personal problems (trips will expose, twist, and toss around what your recent state of mind was prior to ingesting. Go in with a fresh head, no stress or dis-empowering thoughts. Set and setting, look it up if you don't know) or for fear of peer rejection. Taking active mushrooms is something that should be viewed as something meaningful and a unique experience, along with a passion of needing to understand more of mind, because after all you do with your life, the outcomes you create, it's because you are your mind.
The dosage of 0.5 gram for Panaelous Cyanecsens you've recommended is what I will ingest, I'll start with all the stems and a few caps. I've read that Panaelous Cyanecsens has a higher concentration of psilocin than Psylocybe Cubensis, and that potency of it depreciates quickly unlike psilocibin. Would it be alright to create a chopped up concoction of stems and caps inside a shot glass of P. Cyan plus lemon juice?
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Anglerfish said: You should return to the spot and scoop up some of that dung, then put it in a plastic container with small air holes. Might leave you with more fruits.
I'll be heading back to that spot to scoop up some dung. I'll let you know the outcome and if anything will grows from it in the following days and weeks. While I am there, I will also scout a radius of 5 kilometers in all directions that I can cover inside a day from that dung cluster in my first post of this thread to see what's around. Presumably there will be at least two more clusters of P. Cyan or some P. Cube.
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