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nolongrlurkin
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23911864 - 12/09/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a bet!! Not nearly enough people are willing to contribute by actually putting in work..
I'm most excited about a clone I got from a friend who collected It from an active ceremony in peru. Julio was the name of guide and so its name shall be julio forever more.. A 6 inch piece is what I was gifted, to which he said was a large enough piece for ceremonial purposes. He's a pach and he's put on a few inches since then and threw out roots almost instantly after callousing! Maybe I have a pic..
That's him on the left.
Don't you guys get it? True ceremonial genetics straight from the source. Not for sale.. Lol!
I did one more pull on my generic peruvian chips and it yielded a much different product.. Light tan slightly waxy substance.. I haven't weighed it yet but looks to be about .25g.. It looks completely different from what I've been getting.. I wonder what gives..
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Edited by nolongrlurkin (12/10/16 05:52 AM)
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modern.shaman
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#23912614 - 12/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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May be different in your case but ceremonial pachanoi were more symbolic then 'medicinal' in use.
Popular clones are popular for a reason people. Unnamed cacti don't mean it is weak just not a clone; most likely seed grown. Most bridgesii and non-pc pachanoi are powerful. I have no peruvianus cacti as they are extremely variable and would only grown one if it was a popular clone from a trusted member/seller.
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: modern.shaman]
#23912752 - 12/10/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm. And i was thinking of grabbing some icaros dna since i have like 1000 bridg seeds on order. But i guess i should just stick with that for now.
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modern.shaman
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23912806 - 12/10/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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icaros are different as they are almost considered a cultivar from seed. They are pretty uniform from seed; potency does differ a bit but visually quite uniform from seed.
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mandrin13
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: modern.shaman]
#23912956 - 12/10/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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modern.shaman said: I have no peruvianus cacti as they are extremely variable and would only grown one if it was a popular clone from a trusted member/seller.
I bought mine for its appearance and had no intention of sampling it originally, but changed my mind as was pleasantly surprised even though it did yield less than other types, it was a pretty good result for something I had no expectations for. Yay
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: mandrin13]
#23912978 - 12/10/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find the appearance of the Icaros cacti to be my favorite by far, especially the way they look growing there in the Peruvian mountains. Stunning.
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: mandrin13]
#23912986 - 12/10/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like the way a lot of them look. Not sure how likely it would be to get one that looks like this from seed tho. I already have a bunch of bridg seeds, a few pure pach seeds and a juuls×bertha comeing. Might as well get some pruvianus too. More for the look then potency. Put them next to my pilocereus they can be blue together.
Edited by Mostly_Harmless (12/10/16 01:38 PM)
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: modern.shaman]
#23913009 - 12/10/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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modern.shaman said: icaros are different as they are almost considered a cultivar from seed. They are pretty uniform from seed; potency does differ a bit but visually quite uniform from seed.
So true. I have 2 sets of genes but the blue on these is amazing. Not very uniform in growth. One grows to the size of a mans arm and the other grows to the size of a mans thigh. The rest i had looked the same but i eventually gave them away.
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: ferrel_human]
#23913440 - 12/10/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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2Ft of rs0004!! I feel like I'm having deja vu just thinking about it!!
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#23917991 - 12/11/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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nolongrlurkin said: 2Ft of rs0004!! I feel like I'm having deja vu just thinking about it!!
those destined for the blender of the flower pot?
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23918020 - 12/11/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tey are headed to the chop shop.. In a post above I mentioned Il be extracting these two for science.. And me.. And my psyche.. And for you guys!! Good info is hard to come by so I figured Il help out. They are macrogonus rs0004 from the original cultivator.
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amp244
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#23936504 - 12/17/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nolongrlurkin said: I'm just waiting on my New Sep. Funnel..Stay tuned for more!!
Yea, I had a separatory funnel once... Got a base, rod, and clamp to hold it up. Filled it up and it began to tip. I had a mason jar in my right hand. My natural reaction was to prevent the funnel from falling. I contacted the funnel with the mason jar. The funnel shattered. Xylene spilled everywhere. I salvaged what HCL I could, and was pissed about the whole ordeal. I got the 1000ml funnel, so I had a lot of fluid in it before it began to tip.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: amp244]
#23936597 - 12/17/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I plan on getting a funnel eventually but I'm more concerned with sourcing the reagents for extraction, because crystal meth is such a major problem in my area that anything even remotely used in it production isn't available anymore. Like they don’t sell sodium hydroxide here anymore, stores don’t sell it as drain cleaner, hardware stores stopped carrying it, hobby shops and soap making stores don’t sell it anymore ect ect, most solvents are limited to small amounts, and because both are flammable or caustic almost no one is willing to ship it here, can't ship it on a plane so you gotta ship by ground..cept there's no ground shipping to my area only plane. The very few places that do have it will raise an eyebrow unless you're in construction.
I can still get these thigs but its going to be expensive, so got to keep researching on the best way to extract with the least amount of reagent use or the ability to recycle reagents. That would be the next roadblock to creating a log of weight to extract for me, after sourcing and prorogating a supply of genetics anyways.
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amp244
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23936607 - 12/17/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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where are you? Cali? You can always just go to another state. Nevada sells 100% NaOH
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: amp244]
#23936614 - 12/17/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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im on an island
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amp244
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23936682 - 12/17/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see. Meth is a pretty big problem everywhere huh?
There are methods for separating the NaOH from some of the drain clearing products that aren't 100% lye. I can't help you with any of that, and I imagine it is dangerous.
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: amp244]
#23939896 - 12/19/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pickling salt, also known as lime or calcium hydroxide can be used with a lot of teks replacing NaOH. I've heard sunflower seed oil can replace xylene or d.limonine but a little research would be in order for that route.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#23940713 - 12/19/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucking AMAZING info in this thread
I want in on this
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: spaceman101]
#23940759 - 12/19/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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spaceman101 said: Fucking AMAZING info in this thread
I want in on this
Just remember to add and exsperiences or comparisons you may find.
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#23941578 - 12/19/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 ft of fresh macrogonus rs0004 weighing approx 2000g (4.6lbs) was diced (nothing removed except for spines)and Boiled in lemon water thrice, along with a few hours of condensing left me with 8oz of watery juices. I filtered through an ultra fine steel mesh screen to remove extremely tiny particals. 8 oz of liquid is still observed after multiple filter runs. I have decided to add a lye or similar solution to raise the ph and pull the alks out with d.limo and salt with acetic acid. I almost lost my will to extract when my first attempt yielded such a poor product, nearly void of mescaline. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized it was a successful attempt as other alkaloids were strongly influencing The experience. I think I just got some weak San Pedro chips. So I will try again but since I have an aqueous solution, I won't be able to use CaOH because it doesn't dissolve in water so I'm waiting to find a good source of NaOH or KOH.
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