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happyjag
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: Heyowana]
#24591144 - 08/30/17 03:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks for the report.
did you consume the entire amount of liquid strained from 3.3kg of cactus?
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Heyowana
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: happyjag]
#24599901 - 09/03/17 07:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are welcome After consuming one half @ 1650 grams approx I evaporated the liquid from the other half. Ending up with a black tar like rock about 1.5 inches diameter.
One of the would be testers showed up about a month after this so I gave it to him. Haven't heard from him since. Most people don't like me when it comes to tripping. Always been that way. What I find an adequate dose is more than adequate it seems for others.
I'm very interested in slow boiling cactus for a long time. There is a lot of magic that comes out with a boil for twenty hours or more.
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GreenCraik17
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Re: graph of alkaloid content of named Trichocereus clones and anecdotal potency reports. [Re: DGB]
#24661232 - 09/26/17 11:08 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you so much for this info. I created an account after lurking/lingering for over 15 years just to say this and get in on the info wave. Also added a pic of my newest baby just for fist post sake.
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: GreenCraik17]
#24682554 - 10/04/17 02:11 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Added a new column and 3 new cuttings from the DMT nexus thread. Debating if I should add a mg per kg of crude extract column or not, not really sure where it would fit in or if anyone really wants that breakdown as it seems less important than the pure mescaline pre- calculated col 8umb. Also updated front pager
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#24683037 - 10/04/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Juuls is really showing out!! I might have to get some!!
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#24684194 - 10/04/17 06:17 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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nolongrlurkin said: Juuls is really showing out!! I might have to get some!!
Just remember, juuls used to be every thick patch, so it maybor may not be the same cut floating arround the current vendors.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB] 1
#24724817 - 10/20/17 02:59 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: El Torcho] 1
#24724914 - 10/20/17 03:29 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good link, torcho!! Scops representing!!
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El Torcho
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#24726322 - 10/21/17 06:23 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just got me a scop! And a scop x bridge hybrid.
I found that searching for Hutchison 6212. Good to know that pach also has around .8%
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DGB
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: El Torcho]
#24728228 - 10/21/17 10:26 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Trichocereus spp. 'Juul's x peruvianus' AKA JS265" and "Trichocereus peruvianus? (cuzcoensis...) MB01" added to chart
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Heyowana
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#24756228 - 11/03/17 04:51 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have two "Eileen" bridgesoid clones in my garden from different vendors. First one was a bit of a disappointment at 822 grams. Tried the other one at 1000 grams and it was incredible. Electric, psychedelic to the max and unique. I danced with the sounds of nature and the reverberations coming out of the ground for six hours. OEV were so bright and fluoro coloured.
A really earthy trip in the sense that a chant reverberated through my body and made me dance until I was exhausted. I'd lay down after dancing most of the afternoon for a couple of hours. My body still kept trying to dance in the horizontal lying position. Felt like a million dollars with no fear at all. No nausea on the come up.
Appears like not all clones with the Eileen tag are in fact Eileen. This one kilo piece of Eileen was slow boiled for 24 hours over four nights. It's my favourite now and I want an Eileen garden but that will take a while.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: Heyowana] 1
#24756314 - 11/03/17 06:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heyowana said: I have two "Eileen" bridgesoid clones in my garden from different vendors. First one was a bit of a disappointment at 822 grams. Tried the other one at 1000 grams and it was incredible. Electric, psychedelic to the max and unique. I danced with the sounds of nature and the reverberations coming out of the ground for six hours. OEV were so bright and fluoro coloured.
A really earthy trip in the sense that a chant reverberated through my body and made me dance until I was exhausted. I'd lay down after dancing most of the afternoon for a couple of hours. My body still kept trying to dance in the horizontal lying position. Felt like a million dollars with no fear at all. No nausea on the come up.
Appears like not all clones with the Eileen tag are in fact Eileen. This one kilo piece of Eileen was slow boiled for 24 hours over four nights. It's my favourite now and I want an Eileen garden but that will take a while.
ya, theres all kinds of factors, even if they are legit clones any number of factors could change the potency, iv been reading people have anecdotal reports that ageing a cutting will increase the mescline content. on the DMT nexus thread there was a post linking to the nook were someone did a test of sampling a cutting before and after ageing the cutting
"Sample collected and dried in end of November: concentration = 2.0% mescaline-HCl
Sample collected and dried in beginning of March: concentration = 4.1% mescaline-HCl
This is an increase of more than 100%, and this just because of storing the column for 3 month in the dark before drying!
We are quite proud of this finding and I think you might be interested in it as well. Its the first time that this behaviour is confirmed with a validated chemical analysis.
Entire original post here:
http://www.thenook.org/f...dex.php?showtopic=89234
EDIT: You have to be signed in as a member to view posts on the Nook. Well worth it though IMO! "
that was from a rooted cutting kept in a dark area, i wonder if the same could be done with a already calloused cutting, take a cutting, callous, store in closet for a few months to "age"
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Heyowana
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#24758026 - 11/03/17 10:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, I remember seeing that one on DMT nexus. Crazy how the alkaloid content can double.
Both Eileen clones look alike. When I reduced the good one there was a thick salt like residue down the sides which I mixed in at the end. Next day I heated up the cup of reduced liquid and added it to water in another cup to make it easier to drink. I looked at the little pot I had the reduced liquid in later and there was more salty residue on the sides.
Haven't seen as much with any other clone so far. The weak Eileen didn't do this. It actually tasted insipid compared to other brews. Its action seemed very soft and enjoyable as a recreational drug. No way I'd call the strong Eileen recreational. I was that far gone. I couldn't interact with my dogs even. They just watched the dancing idiot doing his thing over and over again.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: Heyowana]
#24764418 - 11/06/17 04:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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SS01 has always been my favorite.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: Soulstice]
#24764432 - 11/06/17 04:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is a pdf of the complete Entheogen Review floating around out there with a three part series of articles by Trout entitled "Some Active Trichoceri."
Those interested in potency of known clones would do well to seek it out.
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: Soulstice]
#24842991 - 12/12/17 10:03 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like the pics are gone, does anyone have the chart please?
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: MeanGreen]
#24843114 - 12/13/17 12:21 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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MeanGreen
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: DGB]
#24843136 - 12/13/17 12:59 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks a lot DGB!
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Re: any experience with any of the named Trichocereus clones? [Re: JayWise] 2
#24843254 - 12/13/17 04:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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JayWise said: What is the current verdict on Trichocereus terscheckii alkaloid potential these days? Ive just got some seeds with the idea that they may be a Tricho capable of surviving long term in the ground in a UK garden.
They can be hardy enough to survive. I keep a few young'uns outside each year and none died off yet (after saying that, I'll probably lose some now!)

A flowering terscheckii in the ground in the UK, over 4m tall :
http://forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=220931#p220931
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