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Taxes
    #23707548 - 10/04/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Federal income tax
State income tax
Local income tax
Employee social security tax (your employer pays the other half)
Employee Medicare tax (your employer pays the other half)
Property taxes
Road toll charges
State sales tax
Driver's license renewal fee
TV Cable/Satellite fees & taxes
Federal telephone surtax, excise tax, and universal surcharge
State telephone excise tax and surcharge
Telephone minimum usage and recurring/nonrecurring charges tax
Gas/electric bill fees & taxes
Water/sewer fees & taxes
Cigarette tax
Alcohol tax
Federal gasoline tax
State gasoline tax
Local gasoline tax
Federal inheritance tax
State inheritance tax
Gift tax
Bridge toll charges
Marriage license
Hunting license
Fishing license
Bike license fee
Dog permit/license
State park permit
Watercraft registration & licensing fees
Sports stadium tax
Bike/nature trail permit
Court case filing fee
Retirement account early withdrawal penalty
Individual health insurance mandate tax
Hotel stay tax
Plastic surgery surcharge
Soda/fatty-food tax
Air transportation tax
Electronic transmission of tax return fees
Passport application/renewal fee
Luxury & gas-guzzler car taxes
New car surcharge
License plate and car ownership transfer taxes
Yacht and luxury boat taxes
Jewelry taxes & surcharges
State/local school tax
Recreational vehicle tax
Special assessments for road repairs or construction
Gun ownership permit
Kiddie tax (IRS form 8615)
Fuel gross receipts tax
Waste Management tax
Oil and gas assessment tax
Use taxes (on out-of-state purchase)
IRA rollover tax/withdrawal penalties
Tax on non-qualified health saving account distributions
Individual and small business surtax (page 336 of Obamacare)
Estimated income tax underpayment penalty
Alternative Minimum Tax on income
Business Taxes & Fees
Federal corporate income tax
State corporate income tax
Tax registration fee for new businesses
Employer social security tax
Employer Medicare tax
Federal unemployment tax
State unemployment tax
Business registration renewal tax
Worker's compensation tax
Tax on imported/exported goods
Oil storage/inspection fees
Employer health insurance mandate tax
Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (page 2001/Sec. 9007 of Obamacare)
Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Page 2010/Sec. 9008 of Obamacare)
Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Page 2020/Sec. 9009 of Obamacare)
Tax on Health Insurers (Page 2026/Sec. 9010 of Obamacare)
Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans, i.e. "Cadillac" plans
Tax on indoor tanning services
Utility users tax
Internet transaction fee (passed in California; being considered in other states and at federal level)
Professional license fee (accountants, lawyers, barbers, dentists, plumbers, etc.)
Franchise business tax
Tourism and concession license fee
Wiring inspection fees
Household employment tax
Biodiesel fuel tax
FDIC tax (insurance premium on bank deposits)
Electronic waste recycling fee
Hazardous material disposal fee
Food & beverage license fee
Estimated income tax underpayment penalty
Building/construction permit
Zoning permit
Fire inspection fee
Well permit tax
Sales and Use tax seller's permit
Commercial driver's license fee
Bank ATM transaction tax
Occupation taxes and fees (annual charges required for a host of professions)


It's a good thing we have all these taxes now.  I don't even see how the country survived without them. :smirk:


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Re: Taxes [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23707565 - 10/04/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's obvious based n this list that at least 20 more taxes are needed.


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Re: Taxes [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23707607 - 10/04/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You forget that for the median income, average tax rates were lower in 2009, 2010 and 2011 than any year back to 1955 except for 2008.

In other words, taxes for most haven't been lower than they are now since the Eisenhower administration.

During the first three years of Obama’s presidency, all personal taxes were 9.6 percent, 9.7 percent and 10.8 percent of personal income, respectively. Those are on the low end of this 50-year time span. The only other years to fall below the 2011 rate were 1964, 1965, 2003 and 2004.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/28/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-taxes-families-are-their-lowest-/


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Re: Taxes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23707653 - 10/04/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's just conservative talking points!:psycrankey:


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Re: Taxes [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23707792 - 10/04/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's not conservative or liberal, it's just the facts.  Point is, taxes are historically low right now, despite the fact that all the conservatives here feel it's otherwise.


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Re: Taxes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23707850 - 10/04/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you have to be kidding, right? 

tax freedom day and percent of taxes.  note that this doesn't include all the hidden taxes and fees, just income taxes

Year TFD Percentage tax burden
1900 January 22 5.9%
1910 January 19 5.0%
1920 February 13 12.0%
1930 February 12 11.7%
1940 March 7 17.9%
1950 March 31 24.6%
1960 April 11 27.7%
1970 April 19 29.6%
1980 April 21 30.4%
1990 April 21 30.4%
2000 May 1 33.0%
2001 April 27 31.8%
2002 April 17 29.2%
2003 April 14 28.4%
2004 April 15 28.5%
2005 April 21 30.2%
2006 April 26 31.2%
2007 April 24 31.1%
2008 April 16 29.0%
2009 April 8 26.6%
2010 April 9 26.9%
2011 April 12 27.7%
2012 April 13 29.2%
2013 April 18 29.4%[4]
2014 April 21 30.2%[5]
2015 April 24 31%[6]


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Re: Taxes [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23707896 - 10/04/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is that for the median income level?  I provide very different numbers from Politifact above.


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Re: Taxes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23708010 - 10/04/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's the aggregate for everyone in the country--high and low income.  kind of a 'moving average' which goes up every year


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Re: Taxes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23708031 - 10/04/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

For the past 70 years, tax revenue relative to GDP has been averaging 17-18%. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S

If you want to increase tax revenue, you have to increase economic growth, the 1% GDP growth we have been experiencing for years is essentially going backwards.


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Re: Taxes [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23708766 - 10/05/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

my experience with toll roads is that they are NOT a tax.  Toll roads are generally owned by independent companies.  that would then be a service fee, not a tax.  same for waste management services.  that is an optional service one can choose to pay for or not, as there are independent waste companies not contracted through municipalities, as well as you could take your own waste to the dump/landfill


also, my seller's permit was provided free of charge by the state (BOE).  while i do pay sales/use tax when applicable, there is no tax/fee for the permit itself.  this is in CA


i'm not so sure your list is accurate


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Re: Taxes [Re: demiu5] * 1
    #23709343 - 10/05/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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my experience with toll roads is that they are NOT a tax.  Toll roads are generally owned by independent companies. 




Yeah, thats not so bad.  The one that gets me is the new toll section of the 110fwy.  The 110 is literally the first freeway built in this town.  Freeway.  They are called freeways because you don't have to pay a toll.  Freeways were built with taxes, and they are maintained with taxes, and now they're trying to sell the damn things to us twice.  Chaps my ass just thinking about it.


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Re: Taxes [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23711971 - 10/06/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The one that gets me is the new toll section of the 110fwy.  The 110 is literally the first freeway built in this town.  Freeway.  They are called freeways because you don't have to pay a toll.  Freeways were built with taxes, and they are maintained with taxes, and now they're trying to sell the damn things to us twice.  Chaps my ass just thinking about it.



How else should we pay for Republican tax cuts for the rich?  :shrug:


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Re: Taxes [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23712130 - 10/06/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Tax cuts for the rich? At least they pay them, 48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes, try to stop being a partisan hack for a minute, will ya?


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Re: Taxes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23713150 - 10/06/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes, try to stop being a partisan hack for a minute, will ya?



I'll quote someone who rips your argument to shreds:

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hostileuniverse said:
Is federal income tax the only tax we pay? No, it is not. Some states have a state income tax as high as 13%. Now add in gas tax, sales taxes, "luxury" taxes, real estate taxes, cell phone taxes, investment taxes, internet taxes, and the list goes on and on and on...




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Re: Taxes [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23713513 - 10/06/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes, try to stop being a partisan hack for a minute, will ya?



I'll quote someone who rips your argument to shreds:

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hostileuniverse said:
Is federal income tax the only tax we pay? No, it is not. Some states have a state income tax as high as 13%. Now add in gas tax, sales taxes, "luxury" taxes, real estate taxes, cell phone taxes, investment taxes, internet taxes, and the list goes on and on and on...







Your post is retarded, clearly I was referring to federal income taxes, not all taxes:facepalm:

Does pretending to not know what is being discussed make you feel smarter? Or are you just so desperate for a "gotcha" line you don't care?


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Re: Taxes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23713631 - 10/06/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Your post is retarded, clearly I was referring to federal income taxes, not all taxes:facepalm:



Crumist was VERY clear in his post that he was referring to Federal Income taxes; he even had a Federal income tax talbe in his post.

You, on the other hand, only said "48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes".  You said nothing about Federal income taxes.


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Re: Taxes [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23714143 - 10/06/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Your post is retarded, clearly I was referring to federal income taxes, not all taxes:facepalm:



Crumist was VERY clear in his post that he was referring to Federal Income taxes; he even had a Federal income tax talbe in his post.

You, on the other hand, only said "48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes".  You said nothing about Federal income taxes.






Good job man, instead of discussing the issue, you've derailed the thread again:thumbup:


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Re: Taxes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23715420 - 10/07/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, once again, its everybody else's fault that you cant follow a simple conversation.


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Re: Taxes [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23715958 - 10/07/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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hostileuniverse said:
Your post is retarded, clearly I was referring to federal income taxes, not all taxes:facepalm:



Crumist was VERY clear in his post that he was referring to Federal Income taxes; he even had a Federal income tax talbe in his post.

You, on the other hand, only said "48% of Americans pay ZERO taxes".  You said nothing about Federal income taxes.



Good job man, instead of discussing the issue, you've derailed the thread again:thumbup:



Yeah, once again, its everybody else's fault that you cant follow a simple conversation.



HU always thinks he is the victim.  We point out the flaws in his argument, and instead of a "thanks man, I'll be more careful next time", he cries to the mods that people are being mean for pointing out the flaws in his logic.


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Re: Taxes [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23716159 - 10/07/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You have to be super emotional to lash out at people who are trying to help you.


My girlfriend always does it when she's on her period.


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