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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Raven44]
    #23725582 - 10/10/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm well the jars looked fantastic and smelled incredible too.

What's the shake test? I shook them at 50 percent and they recovered quickly with no problems I could see.

I used 3.5 qts to one brick of coir...whatever that equals out to be lol..


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23725685 - 10/10/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Your ratio is fine. Next time I would add a quart or two of verm mixed with the coir. Verm is better than coir for holding moisture which will help keep your sub from drying.

I'm not sure what "the" shake test is. But I know that the harder it is to break up your spawn the more bacterial it is. Clean spawn will break up easily just from the g force of shaking without hitting the jar against your hand.


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23725719 - 10/10/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I meant CVG...sorry for not being specific...

And that makes sense,  I never Terry to do it by hand I always just bang it against the carpet lol...


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23725725 - 10/10/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

By the shake test I mean this..

Once ur jars are fully colonized, and u have waited a few days to ensure that they are surely colonized...

Then u shake them one last time. A healthy jar will recolonize within 12-24 hrs. No more than 24-48 hrs...

The jar shouldn't FULL recolonize and turn SOLID white like before u had shaken it. But it will recolonize enough for u to see little bits if fluffy new growth around each kernel of grain. And also I like to GENTLY tip the jars upside down. If the jar holds together and the grains do not fall when tipped upside down after waiting 12-24 hrs. Maybe 48hrs.. then its good to go

If the grains fall when tipped upside down I view that jar with suspicion. Sometimes when the kernels are super dry they don't hold too well for too long... but they should..

Bad jars usually are obvious just by appearance. They most often will never fully recolonize. U will know. Then u know that jar had bacteria


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Raven44]
    #23725733 - 10/10/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'll give that a go with my next round of jars...


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23746300 - 10/17/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hows she coming? :pipesmoke:


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23749562 - 10/18/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Unfortunately, they arent lookin good...They both seem to have stalled...Ive only collected like a qaurter off both of them...

Raven44 was correct in his assessment...something is wrong...my guess is most likely bacterial spawn. I'm honestly not sure though...:shrug:


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23749750 - 10/18/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Noo... It can't be true, I thought it was cleaned up on agar?
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Did you just toss them?


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23749869 - 10/18/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Shit can piggy back on agar ive done 3 4 transfers and had some shit on my shit ... hey the more you fail the better it is when you get it right man keep on keepin on man


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23750059 - 10/18/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Unfortunately, they arent lookin good...They both seem to have stalled......:shrug:








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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23750360 - 10/18/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah i thought it was cleaned up but I guess it wasnt, Im still a newb so I'm still developing my eye for contams. I didnt toss em though, it looks like the mycellium is coming up over the millions of pins that aborted.Maybe something will come on the second flush...

Im not giving up by any means...I'm working on clean cultures while I sit these tubs out and patiently wait...


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23752525 - 10/19/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The shake test will never steer you wrong in my experience

Just don't expand the jar if it doesn't pass the test. Period no if ands or buts lol

One time I thought I could get away w some condensation being present... nope. My shit looked like yours

From then on, I do the shake test and haven't had and tubs do that to me again thankfully.


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Raven44]
    #23752586 - 10/19/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I will be doing this from now on...so once it's 100% colonized you shake the jar up and if it colonizes 100% again then you know it's clean?


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23752600 - 10/19/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It should be recovering within 24 hours 48 should be pretty much recolonized


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Re: 2 KSSS Mono tubs...50 and 66 qt [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23752776 - 10/19/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't look recolonized exactly how it was before u shook it... but u can Def tell the mycelium ALL recovered and got fuzzy again around each kernal. It will be a little less white, not as solid white looking as before but u will know. Just make sure there is ZERO greasy looking spots or wet spots that don't get fuzzy again

Moat importantly, I gently tip the jar upside down and make sure all the kernal are held together as one solid chunk of spawn.. then tip it right side up gently right away.. just a quick teat

Also, wait a day or so after its 100% colonized

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