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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
    #24116149 - 02/24/17 01:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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NEAT!  I really wish I could put those spores on a plate.






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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24116191 - 02/24/17 01:26 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24116236 - 02/24/17 01:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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DNA analysis came back yesterday - the rusty spored mushroom is Psilocybe serbica.




Alan thank you very much for your help in identifying!

Should it be further analysed for possible toxins or it is safe to consume? If I find them next season I can share some spore prints.


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno]
    #24117668 - 02/25/17 12:21 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Everything in Psilocybe is safe to consume.  These have rusty spores because they are missing one of the pigment chemicals.  Dark spored mushrooms produce several pigments to block UV light, and occasionally one of them is not produced, giving an unusual spore color.  It would be interesting to see if fruits grown from these spores have normal pigmentation.


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24117678 - 02/25/17 12:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome find :smile:


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24120236 - 02/26/17 01:43 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you!

I've found them along normal colored serbica so I guess it is not environmental issue. Are there some references of similar mutations in other Psilocybe species in nature? I could find only "Redboy cubensis" but I guess it was lab created.

What is proper term to call this? Variation? Mutation? Does it deserve a nickname? :smile:

Red hair serbica :smile:



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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno]
    #24829655 - 12/06/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

The reddish P. serbica print was put on agar and transferred to grain, then mixed with wood chips in a plastic tub that had holes drilled in it.  Saw some fruits today, I wonder what color the spore print will be.



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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24831730 - 12/07/17 11:10 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting and nice pics Alan, the pin in the third image has the macroscopic characteristics of Psilocybe allenii


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: inski]
    #24833175 - 12/08/17 12:54 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Interesting and nice pics Alan, the pin in the third image has the macroscopic characteristics of Psilocybe allenii




Yea it does, I will check on it again tomorrow.

The print turned out dark purple brown.

I am going to need to do some microscopy to make sure it is what I think it is.


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24833435 - 12/08/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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The print turned out dark purple brown.




Interesting. Could it be that the genetic lack of color pigment only happens on occasion?


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: Anglerfish]
    #24833919 - 12/08/17 01:09 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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The print turned out dark purple brown.




Interesting. Could it be that the genetic lack of color pigment only happens on occasion?



I believe so, especially if a multispore germination was used.
The best way to preserve the trait would have been to take a tissue sample from the fruit body with different pigment.
I think this could be P. allenii


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: inski]
    #24835002 - 12/08/17 11:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this could be P. allenii





I scoped it and you are right - the cheilocystidia is fat like P. allenii, not thin like P. serbica.

Either the labels were switched or both types of spawn were used to make this tub.


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno] * 3
    #28011851 - 10/23/22 02:14 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Here are few photos from season 2022. Growing side by side.



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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno]
    #28013439 - 10/23/22 11:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Awesome find! Have you tried cultivating indoors?


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: avidpicker]
    #28015264 - 10/24/22 11:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Awesome find! Have you tried cultivating indoors?




I haven't. Alan did but something went wrong. I have few fresh spore prints if you would like to try :smile:


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno]
    #28015480 - 10/25/22 05:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:popcorn: Wow


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Re: Rusty brown spores psilocybe [Re: bosnno]
    #28016375 - 10/25/22 05:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Awesome find! Have you tried cultivating indoors?




I haven't. Alan did but something went wrong. I have few fresh spore prints if you would like to try :smile:






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