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PieEyed-Messiah
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Incubation setup
#23706542 - 10/04/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The average temperature in my basement is perfect for fruiting 72-75 on a consistent basis only in winter dropping to 60-65 easily maintained my issue was finding an area suitable for monotub colonization I obviously can't put them in the dead freezer I use for my spawn jars so I got creative .... anythoughts? It maintains 81-83 degree temp's and gives a nicertain dark ares the best part is I can stack a shit ton of monotubs in there and easily get to them to iniate fruiting in the next room 
Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/04/16 11:44 AM)
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filthyknees
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With a small room and a heater that close drying would be a concern of mine.
I've wasted a few dozen grain jars having them dry out by being about a foot away from an oil heater in a situation similar to yours
I wouldn't want 83*F anyways.
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had to edit...
thats just for 'incubation' or fruiting?
Edited by mushboy (10/04/16 11:48 AM)
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65F is better than 83F in my opinion.
68-72 is great above 75F the AC comes on
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morty422
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I actually enjoy fruiting my tubs at 65-68F... The growth is slower-but I see less contaminates and denser fruit.
I also keep all of my jars that are colonizing at around 72-75 degrees. Any warmer and I'm starting to get into the range of giving contaminates their time to shine.
I guess things look good?
Not really sure what your question is.
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Re: Incubation setup [Re: morty422]
#23706630 - 10/04/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Incubators are useless. Except maybe to cultivate reptile eggs with.
Start colonizing mid to low 70s and your grows will improve in success considerably.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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my main concern is tempature drop to trigger pinning I was under the assumption that tempatre drop was a pinning trigger and in combination with the increased fae ,the light schedule,and 100% colonization this is just my first time really doing monos I've done a few before but I'm trying to sole go with them now for a trial I have about 15 various sized tubs at various stages of colonization and plan on fruiting in one room so I needed a place to keep my tubs outake the way but in prime conditions I've tried the no incubation route and honestly I'm not sold
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Temperature drop is not a pinning trigger at all for cubes.. Are we in fact talking about the same tropical species?
Primary pinning triggers are full colonization (or meeting a colonization barrier) and evaporation of moisture from the substrate surface. (FAE+water)
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100% colonization and FAE are far more important pinning triggers than temp and light, just so you know. Temperature is cruitial when colonizing though, anaerobic bacteria love warm stale areas. But do fruit in slightly lower temps to get a better healthier run with denser fruits. It may take longer but it's worth it.
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PieEyed-Messiah said: ... I've tried the no incubation route and honestly I'm not sold
ive done tit incubators(bacteria farms) bags in closets(bag stalled) jars in closets with heading pad(1/12 fruited) jars in drawer with heating pad(8/12 fruited) jars with bags to share heat(wtf was i thinking/less than 50% fruit rate) jars under the stairs near the HVAC(got fucked up fast)
JARS IN CHINAHUTCH WITH NATURAL SUNLIGHT(no issues at all whatsoever) nothing beats jars out in a open visible space. also you dont have to worry about checking them every damn day cause you can see them and ive never had quarts colonize in 3 weeks b4.
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I see no need to differentiate fruiting and colonization temps at all. That shit strikes me as coming from the same vein as cold shocking your cube PF cakes. Seems like misplaced general mycology knowledge inappropriately associated with cubes.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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Yeah I the goal was to drop the temp slightly when going from colonization to fruiting and my was jars colonize in under 14 days everytime and knock on wood iv had 0 contamination sence starting back up
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PieEyed-Messiah
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I really apreaciate all the awesome advice and all this has done is make me want to experiment lmao different conditions at different stages! I'm fairly new to this hobby I started with a giant homemade automaded fc that works great but now I want to expand my technique
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/04/16 12:29 PM)
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Re: Incubation setup [Re: mushboy]
#23706681 - 10/04/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In two weeks I've done nearly 15 quarts of whole oats.
Only one visibly contaminated. They are all sitting on a table in the corner of a room getting ambient non direct light from two windows at 68-75 F daily. MS takes about 13 days to fully colonize, my agar jars took a little less. My g2g jars were obviously the shortest, at around 8 days.
Again, all in 68-75F (it gets cooler at night), ambient light, no attention, no picking up and loving to death.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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Mushierage said: In two weeks I've done nearly 15 quarts of whole oats.
Only one visibly contaminated. They are all sitting on a table in the corner of a room getting ambient non direct light from two windows at 68-75 F daily. MS takes about 13 days to fully colonize, my agar jars took a little less. My g2g jars were obviously the shortest, at around 8 days.
Again, all in 68-75F (it gets cooler at night), ambient light, no attention, no picking up and loving to death.
Ur tek sounds awesome but unlike you my wife banishes all my mycological progects to the basement and in my drafty dusty basement I've found it best to isolate and control my environment
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/04/16 12:33 PM)
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mushboy
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ooo she hates the mush. no good. banish her to the basement. mushrooms are living things yah know
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morty422
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Re: Incubation setup [Re: Inocuole]
#23706697 - 10/04/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I see no need to differentiate fruiting and colonization temps at all. That shit strikes me as coming from the same vein as cold shocking your cube PF cakes. Seems like misplaced general mycology knowledge inappropriately associated with cubes. 

The only reason I keep my jars at low 70's instead of 65F (where my tubs are fruiting) is because I have more space and shelving in another room where it is slightly warmer.
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Re: Incubation setup [Re: mushboy]
#23706705 - 10/04/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said: ooo she hates the mush. no good. banish her to the basement. mushrooms are living things yah know
My wife likes tripping with me so she's kinda cool with it.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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Re: Incubation setup [Re: mushboy]
#23706706 - 10/04/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No she loves the mush once picked but this shot has taken over lmao my basement is a huge lab and I've made a agreement I can do whatever I want as long as it's downstairs
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PieEyed-Messiah
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There is one thing I've learned while on shroomery different thing work great for different people in different situations there are soon many variables at hand I just do what works for me and and try to improve my personal situation
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/04/16 12:43 PM)
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Inocuole
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PieEyed-Messiah said: There is one thing I've learned while on shroomery different thing work great for different people in different situations there are soon many variables at hand I just do what works for me and and try to improve my personal situation
As long as you're aware that what you just did is a form of rationalizing.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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Advice taken and heater removed from area 5 of the mono need to be cased and fruited so I'll monitor the next wave of tubs to see if the colonization times or contamination rates change! Thx everybody
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/04/16 12:53 PM)
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Monks had a magic stick they had to use to make beer. Low and behold the stick had yeast and wasn't magic at all.
People convinced themselves that something secondary was the cause. Changing temperatures isn't reason for success but you may attribute that to your special method for success.
In india they feed children asthma medicine with a live fish they have to swallow. The fish isn't necessary but boy do the dot heads think it is
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morty422
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Quote:
PieEyed-Messiah said: Advice taken and heater removed from area 5 of the mono need to be cased and fruited so I'll monitor the next wave of tubs to see if the colonization times or contamination rates change! Thx everybody
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