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mushboy
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Inocuole]
#23706791 - 10/04/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i didnt mean it like that.
'try' the bucket tek.
ive used oven microwave and bucket. i like bucket.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Inocuole]
#23706792 - 10/04/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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650g brick eco earth 2quarts verm 4quarts water Drier than OPs
Using an oven for substrate or anything mycology related other than dry heat sterilization of glass petri dishes is stupid in my eyes.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: mushboy]
#23706799 - 10/04/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i didnt mean it like that.
'try' the bucket tek.
ive used oven microwave and bucket. i like bucket.
I started with the bucket, it's good.
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morty422
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Inocuole]
#23706800 - 10/04/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:

I feel like Inocuole, Bodhi and myself have been jumping to the same 3-4 threads 1/2 trolling for about 20 minutes now...
It's gonna be a good day...
Also Inoc-you should hit your tubs with PG instead of VG. It's a disinfectant...

Good times...
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: morty422]
#23706807 - 10/04/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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your trolling went to far. now im upset.
back to OP. i think the point is your tub will be ok
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: mushboy]
#23706812 - 10/04/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
back to OP. i think the point is your tub will be ok 

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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: morty422]
#23706822 - 10/04/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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All of my grows are using the bucket TEK.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23706833 - 10/04/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: All of my grows are using the bucket TEK.
All of mine are bucket-ed as well. It's too easy and I can do 6-7 at a time with minimal effort.
I'm all about being lazy... It's kind of my thing...
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: morty422]
#23708112 - 10/04/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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All of mine are bucket-ed as well. It's too easy and I can do 6-7 at a time with minimal effort.
I'm all about being lazy... It's kind of my thing...
I know about the bucket tek, but Inocuole convinced me when he said 
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Coir doesn't give a shit what you do to it, which is why I'm breaking conventions by using the oven in the first place. It likes being cooked.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: senseit]
#23708121 - 10/04/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ovens cook for shit. That's why it takes an hour at 350F to dry heat sterilize. Or at 350F two hours later your Turkey is barely 140F internal.
Unless you start with hot coir it takes too long to heat up in an oven. And an oven doesn't have the same thermal capacitance. Can't beat the bucket
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23708194 - 10/04/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used his oven coir tek for my current two tubs, and they are doing excellent. I did use boiling water to hydrate them. First time I've used it and it's pretty fucking easy.
One of those tubs is no holes (bodhisata), and it's doing just as good as the slighty modified regular tub. I put my top holes in the lid instead, and a 1/4 inch hole where each top hole is supposed to be. And to the op, mist.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23708551 - 10/04/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Unless you start with hot coir it takes too long to heat up in an oven. And an oven doesn't have the same thermal capacitance. Can't beat the bucket
The tek calls for pouring boiling water over the coir into the turkey bag then cooking in the oven at 200 for 80 minutes. Are you suggesting that the cooking isn't doing anything or just that ovens suck?
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: senseit]
#23708558 - 10/04/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If it's already heated you just need an insulator so a bucket is awesome. I use an igloo water cooler. Why bother with the oven.
If you for some reason have hydrated coir that needs treatment you may as well load in jars and sterilize it rather than pasteurize
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23708905 - 10/05/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bod I'm about to take you out back for a caning....
You COULD insulate the bag and just let the temp taper, OR you could let it hang around 190-200F for an hour, THEN taper off, while insulated in the oven, because, you know, those things have pretty good insulation built in. It's just more heat, without actually going to the trouble of PCing it. We all know you could pour boiling water on the coir and use it right then. We also know you can PC it at 20psi. Therefore any in betweens are basically fine, some more convenient than others.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23708906 - 10/05/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought cooking it in the oven would help the myc eat it easier
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Kenetic]
#23709149 - 10/05/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're throwing boiling water on your coir why waist the energy putting it in the oven when all it really needs is an insulated bucket
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: bodhisatta]
#23709167 - 10/05/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because I LIKE IT. And also because my buckets found other uses over time and I wanted it to be a little hotter for longer. Don't you have some spores to LC threads you could be raining hell upon?
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Inocuole]
#23711195 - 10/05/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Because I LIKE IT. And also because my buckets found other uses over time and I wanted it to be a little hotter for longer. Don't you have some spores to LC threads you could be raining hell upon?
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: morty422]
#23711209 - 10/05/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just saying... bod's cutting remarks are probably better suited to almost anything other than discussing what things are acceptable to do to coir, since coir doesn't care.
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Re: Help Upping Sub to Field Capacity [Re: Inocuole]
#23711794 - 10/05/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Exactly coir don't care. So especially no ovens on my end
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