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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Sanguin3]
#23705984 - 10/04/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you haven't made extract before you probably dont have the tools you'd need to make good BHO. qwiso makes okay oil...
why do you want the extract? Are you dabbing or cooking?
For someone looking to simply make a few of the best tasting dabs you can imagine I'd recommend you look into pressing Rosin. Rosin tek. Look into it.
the easy DIY version of rosin tek you need a quick clamp

a hair straightener: 
a coffee filter or micron screen: 
and if you want to make it really good get a thermometer to test the temp of the hair iron. The tek is basically, you shake keif out of your herb, place the keif in the filter and fold it closed, then squeeze the packet of keif in the hair iron at low temp and high pressure. Use the quick clamp to help apply pressure without wearing out your hands.
best iron temp is below 100F. Using this method you can obtain wonderful dabbable solvent-free extract. you run far less risk of burning shit down or hurting yourself. Plus people who say they hate hash because of "chemicals" will have no logical argument since there are no "chemicals" used. Taste is superior to qwiso.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: travelleler]
#23705991 - 10/04/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going to do that tek here soon. I love making puck. We always used cheese cloth and pressed it between books or in table vices but never used a lot of heat more just pressure then fold then add more pressure and so on. Someti,es blew hot air from a hair dryer on it to help make it more malleable. The hair straightener would work awesome I would imagine.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: travelleler]
#23705998 - 10/04/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've made acetone shatter oil a few times already using 36fuckin5's ghetto oil tek
It comes out dank as fuq if you do it right, but it also involves working with a rather explosive solvent so proper precautions must be taken
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Sanguin3]
#23706019 - 10/04/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey OP how's it rollin buddy. Heck yea I love rosin guys. I usually use fresh cured straight nugs pressed on a hair straightener I have never done kief. Also never used a filter but wax free parchment paper. I love the terpenes you get from the rosin tek but it's still not a favorite for extraction of concentrates. I say BHO but that's an opinion. If it's solvent free I would say bubble is hands down the best I even prefer that over BHO. Typically want to see about a grizzle per 1/8 of flowers. Dude likes to freeze his dry leaf before hand for awesome results. Use the most refined butane you can find zero impurities don't skimp your health for the price of gas. Do it outdoors and if you have to blast it inside open every window in your house remember safety first. Stay away from flames and don't torch greens around ur project. If you do BHO and don't have a vac pump the best way to purge is to take a Pyrex dish then fill it with hot water. Set the silicone tray in the dish of water and hold onto it. You will instantly see a reaction so don't trip out when it looks like the liquid butane is boiling. This reaction will cause a push and pull from the gas in the silicone tray being so cold. Just kind of move the tray with it on the surface of the water otherwise it will throw wax everywhere and you will be sad. It is easier than it sounds man. Once the liquid evaporates you will need to purge the gas out of your wax. So put the temp at about 200 on the toaster oven or convectional oven and once it reaches throw the silicone tray inside leave the door cracked. Keep watch on it while the tray is in there should take about 5 mins. Once you see the wax bubble up all over the tray pull it out of the oven. You can just use the tray like a hand fan to cool it with the air. You will repeat this process 3 or more times if you want. Now you have a tray of wax just collect with a true butter knife the ones with no sharpe edges or serrated sides. Your going to have to do some work now but eventually you will have yourself a nice ball of wax in no time. Just keep smearing around what you collect on the knife back on the tray. It will start to take form and as your doing this your pressing any gas out with what your doing. I found this is the best method without equipment other then a honey extractor and butane hands down. You can purchase an extractor with fine mic screen with a hose clamp. As well a silicone tray and butane for around 50$ at a good local smoke shop. If not that hit the web and order some stuff. They will last for a very long time if you take care of it all. Be safe and have fun bruh enjoy.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23709185 - 10/05/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rhizomorpheus said: ... Do it outdoors and if you have to blast it inside open every window in your house remember safety first. Stay away from flames and don't torch greens around ur project. If you do BHO and don't have a vac pump the best way to purge is to take a Pyrex dish then fill it with hot water. ...
I just have to disagree. Under NO circumstances should anyone EVER open blast with butane indoors. NEVER EVER.
Using a solvent will get the best return but you should always use a food grade solvent like Ethanol and only boil under vacuum at low temp, never ever open boil indoors.
keep a fire extinguisher and a fire blanket on hand for emergencies.
dont become a statistic!
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: travelleler]
#23709317 - 10/05/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yesterday I tried an experiment. Instead of using plain old ice, water, bubble bags and 3-6 hours. I used dry ice, trim, a mirror, bubble bag 160, and 20-40 min. For three pulls. I set 2-6 pounds of dry ice 1-6 ounces trim into a five gallon bucket. The trim was both fresh frozen, for some runs then dry trim. Both worked just as well.
Let the herb freeze for 10 min. On the dry ice in the bucket. Slide the bubble bag over the bucket and shake over a large clean mirror. I destroyed my living room mirror me thinks. Any way gently shake the bag full of dry ice and trim over the mirror a white gas pours from the bottom along with tons of trichome's. By far the quickest easiest method for making hash.
I would shake the first run lightly for maybe 10-15 min. The. Set the bag in the bucket for a few minutes to freeze again and the trichome's start falling heavy again for a few minutes then that's it for the first pull. I'd say I get about 16-20 grams of hash from each first pull. I'd scrape it up and put in a Tupperware container.
Let the bag sit in the bucket and freeze again then second third and fourth pull I would shake much more vigorously. By the fourth pull its mostly sticky green pucks not like the blond from the first. Also if you can find a way of trapping the fine's that blow onto the table that shit after several runs is just about pure white. I might have been wasting some from the vapors blowing stuff off the mirror.
The hash is for the most part dry but I feel like it needs to sit and dry for awhile. Definately not wet like stale water ice extraction. I'd say this is 20 times faster conservatively. Probably more product might be a higher quality I will have to do some testing later today.


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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Hunter hunter]
#23709328 - 10/05/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will it melt?
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Soluminia]
#23709339 - 10/05/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure the first run will. Usually I make the bubble hash let it dry then press it with a flat iron. It seemed too moist yesterday. Today we will see.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Hunter hunter]
#23709345 - 10/05/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice hash chunks, brah. A buddy did the dry ice and bag tek before with great results. Nice cyans too, dude.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Sanguin3]
#23709428 - 10/05/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP the rosin tek is the easiest for accessible and simple small-run concentrates. BHO is better quality, higher yield, easier continued washes, and a genarally quicker process than ISO wash (due to the evap time) but a lot less fool proof when it comes to your set up. ISO wash is easy as fuck, but finding 99% iso can be difficult for some people, moreso than getting quality butane like Colibri. The thing I don't like about telling people who are new to cannabis extractions to do butane is there are small things that can fuck up and really piss you off. It's also more expensive to set up. Too much back pressure from poor design or too fine of material and your weed is all over the place at best. There are other reasons as well. Whatever you do, if you use solvents then don't be too hasty, let it sit for days if you have to so you're smoking as little of those solvents as possible. I've seen puds of oil you could open and light a little flame with.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: travelleler]
#23709448 - 10/05/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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travelleler said:
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Rhizomorpheus said: ... Do it outdoors and if you have to blast it inside open every window in your house remember safety first. Stay away from flames and don't torch greens around ur project. If you do BHO and don't have a vac pump the best way to purge is to take a Pyrex dish then fill it with hot water. ...
I just have to disagree. Under NO circumstances should anyone EVER open blast with butane indoors. NEVER EVER.
Using a solvent will get the best return but you should always use a food grade solvent like Ethanol and only boil under vacuum at low temp, never ever open boil indoors.
keep a fire extinguisher and a fire blanket on hand for emergencies.
dont become a statistic!

I know people that have done hundreds of extractions indoors in a safe manner with succes. I have also been present at a bunch of these lol. These statistics come from gas build up in houses with no way to escape or release. Also people being ignorant and exposing their projects to sparks or flame sources. Some people have to do things in privacy and are not capable of doing an extraction outside. They may live somewhere in a place ol Jankins thinks that young buck is making meth with a tube like that. If your house is well ventilated and I mean well ventilated by all means do it. Another thing is if your doing large scale extractions which I'm sure the OP is not of course your doing that shit outside and more then likely in a medicinal or legal state. I personally don't work around solvents without some type of ventilator mask and am lucky enough to be capable of doing it outdoors. I remember the article just a bit ago posted about how BHO is like the new meth lab it made me chuckle. Have you ever done an extraction indoors or just looked at pictures and read or heard stories? What your saying is like telling someone to extract DMT outside or Mescaline.... All using harsh solvents often requiring heating and many other things.... I would never tell someone to go manufacture a felony substance outdoors in the open.... I would advise safety and knowledge of the chemicals your using. I understand your worry and people blowing themselves up is a huge concern to me but things can be done responsibly. If you can't conduct something without being safe enough to blow yourself up.... That person deserves the Darwin Award. Peace Love Light and Blessings
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: California]
#23709490 - 10/05/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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California said: Nice hash chunks, brah. A buddy did the dry ice and bag tek before with great results. Nice cyans too, dude.
looks tastY<3
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Sanguin3]
#23710074 - 10/05/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sanguin3 said: Interested in making my own concentrates for the first time and wanted to know if anyone had a preferred method (qwiso vs bho?) or any tips. Also how much are you pulling from runs?
Just about to make this exact thread I want to make ISO hash or puck.I just got an ounce of midgrade bud for it
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23712579 - 10/06/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rhizomorpheus said:
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travelleler said:
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Rhizomorpheus said: ... Do it outdoors and if you have to blast it inside open every window in your house remember safety first. Stay away from flames and don't torch greens around ur project. If you do BHO and don't have a vac pump the best way to purge is to take a Pyrex dish then fill it with hot water. ...
I just have to disagree. Under NO circumstances should anyone EVER open blast with butane indoors. NEVER EVER.
Using a solvent will get the best return but you should always use a food grade solvent like Ethanol and only boil under vacuum at low temp, never ever open boil indoors.
keep a fire extinguisher and a fire blanket on hand for emergencies.
dont become a statistic!

I know people that have done hundreds of extractions indoors in a safe manner with succes. I have also been present at a bunch of these lol. These statistics come from gas build up in houses with no way to escape or release. Also people being ignorant and exposing their projects to sparks or flame sources. Some people have to do things in privacy and are not capable of doing an extraction outside. They may live somewhere in a place ol Jankins thinks that young buck is making meth with a tube like that. If your house is well ventilated and I mean well ventilated by all means do it. Another thing is if your doing large scale extractions which I'm sure the OP is not of course your doing that shit outside and more then likely in a medicinal or legal state. I personally don't work around solvents without some type of ventilator mask and am lucky enough to be capable of doing it outdoors. I remember the article just a bit ago posted about how BHO is like the new meth lab it made me chuckle. Have you ever done an extraction indoors or just looked at pictures and read or heard stories? What your saying is like telling someone to extract DMT outside or Mescaline.... All using harsh solvents often requiring heating and many other things.... I would never tell someone to go manufacture a felony substance outdoors in the open.... I would advise safety and knowledge of the chemicals your using. I understand your worry and people blowing themselves up is a huge concern to me but things can be done responsibly. If you can't conduct something without being safe enough to blow yourself up.... That person deserves the Darwin Award. Peace Love Light and Blessings
Sure dude, but by understating the very real danger you do the community a disservice. Everyone should be keenly aware of just how dangerous this shit is. Because you might be at 100 indoor extractions where nothing bad happens and then the 101st can blow in your face.... and it only takes that one to really fuck some shit up.
And I'm not arguing with you, I'm shaking a finger at you. Making it sound safe is the most dangerous thing you can do.
... that's a lot of assumption...
so go ahead and tell people "open blasting is safe" but don't say I didn't try and warn you all.

and to answer your question, yes. But I dont want to brag about my experience here.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: travelleler]
#23712835 - 10/06/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay everyone in the community.... Start doing your DMT extractions outdoors also with your BHO... no matter your situation.... all extractions with solvents and gas must now be done outdoors.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23712851 - 10/06/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I process my own concentrates
BHO
2 AcrossInternational Ovens

Emotek Closed Loop (Dismantled)


Edit: the amount of return comes from the quality of the material. But the most i've pulled was like 67g from 1lb of trim.
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Re: Anyone make their own mj concentrates? [Re: Big Worm]
#23713149 - 10/06/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hell yeah bro getting it in Big Worm. Your setup is legit looks like your swimming in a sea of green. Next time I'm up visiting I will have to holler. My best friend from when I was a kid lives about 20 mins outside of Denver also... so I will be there again eventually. From what I have seen you know what's going down with the dank. Do your thang.
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