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Why do people hate the police? 1
#23704460 - 10/03/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Serious question. No trolling.
Now, excluding the bad apples that kill black people (0.001% of them). Why do you hate them?
A. They are paid to enforce the laws B. The laws are available for you to read C. If you break the law (sell drugs), you know you're breaking the law. D. You know the police exist E. You know lawyers exist to defend your rights
The police's job is to follow the breadcrumbs.
If you leave enough breadcrumbs for them to find you, it's your own damn fault.
If you left so many breadcrumbs that a lawyer can't keep you out of prison, it's your own damn fault.
You know the system exists. You know the rules. You know what you're getting into. You know you should be careful.
Why would you hate the police? If you ever get attacked or whatever and you manage to call them, they will come to your rescue no matter who you are. Even if you're suspect in a murder case. They will respond and they will risk being killed to save your ass.
If you get caught. Blame your stupidity. Not the ones enforcing the law...
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal] 1
#23704476 - 10/03/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cause they fuck peoples lives up, they murder innocent cause "they thought they had a gun", give tickets and make us spend shit tons of money on courts and fines, power hungry, trigger-happy assholes who only care about their lives and no one elses.
Corrupt cops are the worst. Patlal, its obvious u have never interacted with a cop.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704488 - 10/03/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me thinks you may have a little to much faith in a system that is wired to supress endeavor and enforce the paradigms. The type of person who not only subscribes to the system but actively endorses it is not the type of person that I want with the power. Do you agree with prohibition? Would you become a cop if you could?
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The problem is the criminal justice system, not the cops. They are just the enforcers of these stupid laws, they must meet quotas, that creates overbearing police practices.
Most of the frustration isn't cops killing thugs, it's unfounded domestic abuse charges, it's petty drug crimes, it's failing piss tests and getting into bigger trouble, it's heavy fines that poor people can't afford.
The system is constantly picking away at people with petty bullshit, that's where the frustration is coming from, not racist cops.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704547 - 10/03/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you left so many breadcrumbs that a lawyer can't keep you out of prison, it's your own damn fault.
That's debatable, there's a thing which people do called snitching, has nothing to do with leaving breadcrumbs, just some body decided to be a douchenozzle and snitch.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23704548 - 10/03/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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These citizens know that the criminal justice system is askew before they subscribe to be the enforcers of it. Whether it be in ignorance of what they are getting into or knowingly they should not be exempt from scrutiny.
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Patlal
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LogicaL Chaos said: Cause they fuck peoples lives up, they murder innocent cause "they thought they had a gun", give tickets and make us spend shit tons of money on courts and fines, power hungry, trigger-happy assholes who only care about their lives and no one elses.
Corrupt cops are the worst. Patlal, its obvious u have never interacted with a cop.
My step father is a cop and my mother has been with him for close to 20 years. My aunt is a stenographer My mother works as a prison guard and court house guard Family friends include lawyers and a judge.
I have been pulled over a few times. I've been interrogated a few times about a case, but I've never been stupid enough to get caught with something on me.
I'm fully aware of the system.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704558 - 10/03/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Serious question. No trolling.
Now, excluding the bad apples that kill black people (0.001% of them). Why do you hate them?
I got a question about this..why is it only black people that are mentioned when people are unjustly killed? Why is there barely any news coverage when a white dude or a Latino or an Asian are killed by cops? Anyway, you're right, it is a very small fraction of cops that do this.
I don't get the hate for cops either, of course anybody would despise the bad cops, but all the cops I've encountered were cool to me, even though I was pissed for getting arrested I realized I chose to break the law. You can even get out of trouble with some cops just by being cool with them too.
I just think it's kinda funny because we all know that the same people who just hate all cops for whatever stupid reason just may find themselves in a situation where they'll ask for a cop's help without hesitation one day. I feel like hating all cops is such a high schooler's mentality.
^^ This reminds me of a video I saw where there was a bunch of BLM protesters blocking the road and one of them got hit by a car so they started screaming for the police to go after the dude
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Lucis]
#23704560 - 10/03/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: If you left so many breadcrumbs that a lawyer can't keep you out of prison, it's your own damn fault.
That's debatable, there's a thing which people do called snitching, has nothing to do with leaving breadcrumbs, just some body decided to be a douchenozzle and snitch.
But you know from the very beginning of your criminal endeavors that snitching is risk to take.
You're still breaking the law even if nobody snitches on you. You know that from the beginning. The more people you involve in your criminal activities, the more risks you are willingly taking.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal] 1
#23704565 - 10/03/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Idk what tf ure even doing in this forum op, I really don't..
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal] 3
#23704574 - 10/03/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude
YOU R NOT AMERICAN, GET OVER IT
your country is nothing like ours, stop trying to relate
Is it really that fascinating to you that americans are your sole interest? Are you truly that bored?
Why the fuck don't americans have any clue as to what the interactions between Canadians and Mounties are? Because we don't give a fuck
You live in French Canada too, you should be ashamed of yourself
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: zZZz] 3
#23704576 - 10/03/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: zZZz]
#23704577 - 10/03/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Idk what tf ure even doing in this forum op, I really don't..
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704605 - 10/03/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think most cops are good people. Ive been wronged / harassed by a few cops before and have been arrested for weed possession, but that was when I was a young dumb ass who looked like a trouble maker.
Today the all cops seem to respect me because I respect them and they like that. I also don't dress or look like a criminal. When I see cops in public and if we make eye contact I always do a nod of approval to them, and they nod back. Same respect for cops is held when I get pulled over, and I pretty much always get off easy with just a warning.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704607 - 10/03/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Serious question. No trolling.
Now, excluding the bad apples that kill black people (0.001% of them). Why do you hate them?
A. They are paid to enforce the laws B. The laws are available for you to read C. If you break the law (sell drugs), you know you're breaking the law. D. You know the police exist E. You know lawyers exist to defend your rights
The police's job is to follow the breadcrumbs.
If you leave enough breadcrumbs for them to find you, it's your own damn fault.
If you left so many breadcrumbs that a lawyer can't keep you out of prison, it's your own damn fault.
You know the system exists. You know the rules. You know what you're getting into. You know you should be careful.
Why would you hate the police? If you ever get attacked or whatever and you manage to call them, they will come to your rescue no matter who you are. Even if you're suspect in a murder case. They will respond and they will risk being killed to save your ass.
If you get caught. Blame your stupidity. Not the ones enforcing the law...
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: majicman30]
#23704613 - 10/03/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They may have framed you because you look or acted like a dumb ass trouble maker who's probably getting away with crimes, and that pisses them off
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: trees]
#23704614 - 10/03/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: They may have framed you because you look or acted like a dumb ass trouble maker who's probably getting away with crimes, and that pisses them off
NOPE but u might & prolly do oh yea he does ohhhh! I'm speaking of myself Trees not you, but No I do not like a criminal. I have to say some cops are nice though. !
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23704620 - 10/03/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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US gun laws make some police officers cautious and violent through fear. Sometime needlessly violent. You have to consider the cause before you blame the effect.
Even if a person has no gun on their person, the fear and hatred is still in the officer who's arresting, brought about by all previous bad experiences. He's indoctrinated into violence.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: majicman30]
#23704631 - 10/03/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So... you look like a criminal therefore you must be a criminal.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23704635 - 10/03/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Cause they fuck peoples lives up, they murder innocent cause "they thought they had a gun", give tickets and make us spend shit tons of money on courts and fines, power hungry, trigger-happy assholes who only care about their lives and no one elses.
Corrupt cops are the worst. Patlal, its obvious u have never interacted with a cop.
My step father is a cop and my mother has been with him for close to 20 years. My aunt is a stenographer My mother works as a prison guard and court house guard Family friends include lawyers and a judge.
I have been pulled over a few times. I've been interrogated a few times about a case, but I've never been stupid enough to get caught with something on me.
I'm fully aware of the system.
If they weren't willing to turn a blind eye to your lifestyle/be slightly corrupt maybe you would have a different opinion....I have lived with a couple of cops and even had a relationship with one many moons ago.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: pineninja] 3
#23704840 - 10/03/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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people hate the police because they are the most visible feature of the current state of affairs that makes people want to hate them, namely a broken economy, a broken government, a broken justice system in which even the best individuals are forced to do evil while the worst relish in it, and lingering, deeply embedded racism. indeed, the first american cops (as we know them) were members of slave patrols. we're talking centuries of brutality. and when most people see cops, at least some - if not all - of those things come to mind. it doesn't take a genius to see why anyone would hate the cops; it certainly doesn't make anyone a fool for doing so either.
what baffles me is cop groupies. it's one thing to respect the role that police play in society, but something entirely different to outright worship the cops themselves. that has to stem from some sort of widespread, sociological mutation of stockholm syndrome. it would not be surprising to find that a lot of police states have these minorities of cop groupies who just fucking love the gestapo because at some really deep level their society has successfully implanted that blind infatuation as a coping mechanism.
that said, hating cops isn't really getting us anywhere. we need cops. we just don't need an occupying force that pretends to be cops while enforcing ill conceived, massively destructive policies that make a mockery of our most treasured ideals.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: millzy]
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: millzy]
#23705051 - 10/03/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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what baffles me is cop groupies. it's one thing to respect the role that police play in society, but something entirely different to outright worship the cops themselves. that has to stem from some sort of widespread, sociological mutation of stockholm syndrome. it would not be surprising to find that a lot of police states have these minorities of cop groupies who just fucking love the gestapo because at some really deep level their society has successfully implanted that blind infatuation as a coping mechanism.
I thought this was very well-worded. 
To me, it seems like most people fall into one of the two extreme camps - most either worship cops like "groupies", or they downright hate them.
My opinion on them is in the middle. I respect most of them. I think most of them mean well, but some of the laws they enforce are immoral. So to me it's partially a question of to what extent ignorance excuses one's actions.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23705064 - 10/03/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I strongly disagree with the argument that it's your fault if you get arrested for a drug-related crime or nonviolent activity.
First of all, surveillance is so prevalent that it's hard not to leave "breadcrumbs." Even if you don't leave crumbs, they can fabricate an excuse to search your pantry on a whim if they just get an odd feeling about you.
Secondly, the fact that "you knew it was against the law" holds no weight. The law is a set of commandments that men write down on paper. If I write you a note telling you that I'm going to mug you if you walk down a certain street at night, that doesn't mean that you had it coming, or that it was your fault, when I mug you because you walked down that street in violation of my orders.
With that said, I don't hate cops. But the OP arguments for why cops shouldn't be hated were really shitty in my opinion.
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The enforcement of really really bad laws doesn't engender warm fuzzy feelings OP.
Also, I was once pulled over for going too fast on a street that had no speed limit sign, I asked why I was pulled over in kind of an irritated voice because I thought I hadn't done anything wrong, so they called for back up, had a dog sniff the vehicle. The dog brought next to the car sat as still as a stone making no indications and they said the dog smelled drugs. I had no drugs, they dumped out the contents of the vehicle like a hurricane hit it and broke my mirror in the process, then suspended my license without cause, which caused me to be late for a job that if your late too many times your fired, period end of story, doesn't matter why. Ok basically all this happened because I didn't talk to the cop in a nice cheery way. I was looking a bit hippy like in a corn belt state too, that was part of it.
I once saw I guy get his RV towed which he lived in, he was in a quiet industrial area, not bothering anyone. His tags were expired. Guy gets all his worldly possessions impounded and is now on the streets. I asked the cop why they were taking everything the guy had, just some poor dude on his last dime. The cop said robotically, I'm just doing my job.
Etc. Etc. most cops have been fairly nice to me, only when I'm nice to them.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: invitro]
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People hate the police because they're power hungry, the only reason somebody even goes into that kind of job is to acquire some kind of power. They then use that power to punish citizens, while at the same time breaking similar laws themselves or being cool about their buddies breaking laws.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: invitro]
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I don't hate cops but I have zero respect for them...
One night after a chill social night out I was driving my very intoxicated friend home, I myself had 3 beers over the course of about 4 hours, I was perfectly fine to drive. I get pulled over because "the light above my license plate was out" which is their bullshit excuse to pull people over. Young fresh out of the academy cop pulls me over and asks if I have been drinking and I tell him yeah I had 3 beers over the course of the night and I was just driving my friend home. Well he makes me do a field sobriety test anyways which I did flawlessly (it's on video). He makes me blow anyway and somehow I blew a .084 and of all the stories people have told me, unless they blow way over, the cop usually lets them get home, especially after they do a perfectly good sobriety test. But not this fucking piece of shit cop! He arrests me for a dui which I easily got dropped to careless driving but it was still a hassle and bullshit to begin with.
Here's the best part. My friend about 2 months later gets pulled over one night after drinking because his dumbass didn't turn his headlights on. The same cop pulls my friend over and apparently they were a year apart in high school so they kind of knew each other. He gives him a sobriety test and my friend somehow does decent during this test but not good enough to just get let go. So this piece of shit says quote unquote "If you don't blow too much over I'll let you go tonight" Well my friend blows a fucking .224 or something like that, he was like 3 times the legal limit so of course he got a dui.
But the shit that pisses me off is the cop said if he didn't blow "too much over" he would let him go. WELL I BLEW .004 OVER AND HE ARRESTED ME! And I did waaaaaaaay better on my sobriety test. Then he almost lets my friend go and he was 3 times over the legal limit. What a piece of fucking garbage.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23705216 - 10/03/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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id tell you my opinion but i am to lazy to type it all. some times they are cool some times they are ass holes.
i had my jaw broke once and i went to the cops to make a report and they started making fun of me. i tried to call the station and they ignored my call. i had to call my attorney and he got them to make the report.
In my area if you call the police station they ignore you they never pick up. i tried to report some pervert that was coming in my building and looking in kids rooms once and i stayed on the line on hold for 45 mins. not even once did they pick up.
some times their cool some times they are ass holes
when they are ass holes its like fuck the police fucking pigs
here in la they used to be so much worse they chilled a lot more.
i do a conspiracy video blog and i am always looking for stuff i find a lot of police shooting and police corruption
this is not my blog but i get lots of stories from them. keep up with this blog and you will see why people think so ill of police. http://countercurrentnews.com/
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Well im a girl and i live inthe UK. I know many are rotton eggs so to speak, but ive had almost nothing but positive experiences with police here. All smiles and waves hahaha.
Well, i was arrested wrongfully, twice. They tried to scare me too as i look much younger than i am, locked me in a car one cop trying to interrogate me. Was amusing. Only kinda wasnt if i wasnt older and mature enough to know the way of things
Cops in usa seem way ott from what i see on tv, but hard to know how much is true,
I know i wouldnt want their job here in uk with the people they seem to contend with every night, not enough money in the world.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#23705240 - 10/03/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a power thing, if they feel u offended them in anyway they will make u pay for it to make up for their fragile egos.
I got stopped by a cop many years ago while I was walking, the dude thought I was fucking with him while he was padding me down, but I was just scared. and like out of no where kicks me on the side of my leg and I almost did the splits, dude looked like a straight up nazi. Anyway I saw him a few years later while I was in court for some other shit, he was parked in front of the court, and the dude had one of those brand new chargers, bastard got promoted. That's what they do, they promote the most violent cops.
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Not sure why it hasnt been said yet. Fuck the police.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Spellbound]
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Police in other countries tend to be alright peeps. They tend to be more friendly, less abrasive, more polite, more approachable, and basically more like normal decent people.
Cops in some other countries by contrast tend to be more authoritarian and treat us like we are the lowest in chain-of-command in the military or something. Which probably stems from the fact that a lot of cops were once military.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Crystal G]
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That said, theyre not all good over here. I do remember one chatting with me, was kinda a mate a long time ago, and he told me if he wants to batter a guy down, he just needs to shout 'stop resisting' while doing so, so if any witnesses, thats what theyll remember wtf lol. Just remembered that haha
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Spellbound]
#23705349 - 10/03/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some cops are pricks but some are cool.
People hate the police because they feel as if saying "yo yo yo got da money got da drugs yo yo yo fuck da police yo yo yo" is normal
I've had plenty of somewhat positive interactions with the cops before, including one instance of a cop giving me good directions to help find my lost car in Chicago which worked really well. That dude was cool as fuck. I've also had some cops be hella dicks before. As long as you respect them they usually respect you back though, they are human and all.
Usually when people say "ALL THE POLICE ARE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PEOPLE FUCK ALL OF THEM I HATE THEM" they also happen to have a very extremist and naive set of opinions about a lot of things.
If i'm in the ghetto, police generally make me feel kinda safer, even if they can be unsettling to be around sometime
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal] 2
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Police are human beings like everyone else, and that's exactly the problem. Like everyone, there are a lot of nice, good police. But also like everyone, there are a lot of police who are complete assholes, corrupt, stupid, ignorant, racist, domineering, and that get off on busting people's balls. The difference between normal people and the police is that the police have power over others. A lot of power.
Give a lot of power to someone who is a nice, good guy, and you'll get a safe community. Give a lot of power to a stupid, corrupt, racist asshole, and you're going to have problems. Unfortunately, we've given power to both, and I don't know of any way for us to weed out the good cops from the bad cops.
And then of course there are bad laws, and selectively enforced laws, and unnecessary uses of violence while enforcing laws, etc. etc.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: nooneman]
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: nooneman]
#23705410 - 10/03/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Police are human beings like everyone else, and that's exactly the problem. Like everyone, there are a lot of nice, good police. But also like everyone, there are a lot of police who are complete assholes, corrupt, stupid, ignorant, racist, domineering, and that get off on busting people's balls. The difference between normal people and the police is that the police have power over others. A lot of power.
Give a lot of power to someone who is a nice, good guy, and you'll get a safe community. Give a lot of power to a stupid, corrupt, racist asshole, and you're going to have problems. Unfortunately, we've given power to both, and I don't know of any way for us to weed out the good cops from the bad cops.
And then of course there are bad laws, and selectively enforced laws, and unnecessary uses of violence while enforcing laws, etc. etc.
It would be a tough job for a nice guy, but it would be easy and attractive to assholes hence the disproportionate amount of asshole cops imo.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: pineninja]
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I live in Australia and I like our Police. I'm pretty much the only guy in this country that doesn't disrespect them LOL.
I don't do overly illegal things, I'm a happy person, the country is stable. Why have a go at cops?
Even if I get busted with mushrooms one day I'll just accept it. Which I guess is what OP is sayin'.
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Because they give you tickets for bullshit and mess with your boardgame characters, also they always side with the ruling class against us proles, even though they are being exploited same as us.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Asante]
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Asante]
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I'm surprised at how polite this thread has been so far. I feared it would turn into a "fuck da police" thing and then go to shit.
So of you have decenrt erasons to hate them, I get it. But also, I've noticed that some of the stories were " hate the cops because I got arrested breaking the law".
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal] 1
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I do hate the cops because I got arrested, fuck em to hell I'll see them there
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23706007 - 10/04/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't hate the police.
However in my province their are ample reasons
For example, have you ever heard of starlight tours?
A starlight tour is a common police practice in my province where the police take a drunk First Nations person (indigenous/ aboriginal) person, drive him far outside the city, take his shoes and jacket and drop him off.
My province is the same climate as siberia- winters are regularly -30C to -40C.
So starlight tours end in heaven.
Another reason is that they are the primary Instruments of a massive crime against humanity and they break up families and kidnap people and lock them in cages for possession of dried flowers and mushrooms.
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Dude, did that guy just eat a sheet in your sig?
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: SonicTitan]
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It's a score card most likely (a record of drug debts that are evidence against him)
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
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I ran into a good cop last week. We were driving to one of my claims hauling a trailer. We came up behind someone on the highway and I started to pass him. He immediately swerved to the left like he didn't want us to pass but I did anyway, which ensued in a big dick chase. He was doing 45 and I wanted to go 65. Now I had to do 85 to get around him and so when I get over I put on my brakes to get back to the speed I wanted to go in the first place. This dude is so pissed by this point that he's riding my ass as close as he can get. A passing lane came up and he expected me to get over so he could brake check me which I didn't allow of him. He got pissed and passed me on the right with a few feet of clearance before he was cut off by a semi trailer. He makes it by a hair and immediately brake checks me to the point he was almost stopped. It was a dangerous situation so I just went around him on his left while he was busy laying on his brakes. This apparently pissed him off and he called the cops. We had stopped at a grocery store in the next town where a cop approached me about the situation. My gf and I explained the whole situation and then we shot the shit about local mining claims... He told me not to worry that the other guy had a temper issue. I do too but he clearly sided with me in my beat up dented truck with headlight hanging by a thread, no bumper on my travel trailer etc. The guy basically called the cops to give himself a ticket and possibly more depending on how he acted when they went back to him to argue our logical story.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706023 - 10/04/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hahaha you're probably right. Made me laugh either way. You wou;ldnt think a scorecard would hold up ina court of law since anyone can write anything on a piece of paper. Unless he had things bagged up and ready to go or rolls of cash on him that are accurate to what is written down.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: SonicTitan]
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Oh no, score cards are definitely evidence against you make no mistake that will be considered highly incriminating against you in a case.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23706155 - 10/04/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: Dude, did that guy just eat a sheet in your sig?
I'd like to know too. Is that Acid he's eating. If so, then that just got a whole lott funnier. I saw it before, but thought it was something else. I dunno, but some cops are nice I have to say. The majority are not from my own experience. Peace & Love
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23706243 - 10/04/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Serious question. No trolling.
Now, excluding the bad apples that kill black people (0.001% of them). Why do you hate them?
A. They are paid to enforce the laws B. The laws are available for you to read C. If you break the law (sell drugs), you know you're breaking the law. D. You know the police exist E. You know lawyers exist to defend your rights
The police's job is to follow the breadcrumbs.
If you leave enough breadcrumbs for them to find you, it's your own damn fault.
If you left so many breadcrumbs that a lawyer can't keep you out of prison, it's your own damn fault.
You know the system exists. You know the rules. You know what you're getting into. You know you should be careful.
Why would you hate the police? If you ever get attacked or whatever and you manage to call them, they will come to your rescue no matter who you are. Even if you're suspect in a murder case. They will respond and they will risk being killed to save your ass.
If you get caught. Blame your stupidity. Not the ones enforcing the law...
A great deal of them are corrupt on many levels. I don't personally know any (that I know of) but they do seem to be self righteous and morally superior in their thinking, and maybe that is why they took that particular job so they can flex those muscles. I know there are some good guys out there. I have run across them at times and could have gotten thrown in jail and/or heavily fined for some of the things they let me go for, but I did get a lecture while I was having to pour all 24 beers out on the ground, and I was with 2 underage people and one was a girl (they were 17-18 and me 21-22), so I have been lucky.
I don't "hate cops", but I feel as though they do have some degree of a power trip, some more than most, and all of them at various degrees. This whole cannabis BS just needs to stop, legalize it so everyone can grow it and there will be zero probs with it, and also legalize rec drug (all of them) use for responsible adults already.
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Seriously though it's as simple as this - the laws they are paid to enforce are unjust and harmful.
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tyrannicalrex said: I don't "hate cops", but I feel as though they do have some degree of a power trip
I don't approve of the actions of the ones that abuse their power, but I don't hate the people that they are.
I think in all social circles there are going to be people that abuse the authority they're given, this is just as true for the counter culture.
I feel like people that say they hate the police, are just being childish, and are just as much part of the problem with the system, as corrupt police are.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Lucis]
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Lucis]
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I have no problem with the police at all. There are a lot of good people on the force who genuinely want to protect and help others. Fennario is right, there will always be those types of people in every aspect of society. You have those asshole chefs who abuse their authority too and can be pretty fucking brutal at it. Its character traits that are not determined by job title but just how the individual is as a whole. Some people are just power hungry dicks so its not really surprising why they would choose a profession like a police officer.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23706354 - 10/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't hate police, I hate the idiotic laws they enforce, like charging people for drug possession.
Laws should exist for the sole purpose of protecting you from other people.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23706445 - 10/04/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have had a whole series of very negative experiences with police mistreating and abusing me without reason.
I don't hold that against the police as a whole.
What I hold against them is that they enforce unjust drug laws and use violence against non violent drug users..
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706590 - 10/04/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where do you live that they're randomly murdering indigenous people?
At OP: Probably because of harassment from police, being a sober law abiding citizen doesn't insulate on all that much
I don't have a problem with police, but right now I'm a little annoyed at not being able to roam my town at night, the other night I was pulled over walking down the street and questioned for half an hour.
Knowing the way things are out here I'll have to stop taking late night walks or risk catching the blame for a break-in.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23706615 - 10/04/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The flawed system is the problem, not necessarily the individuals.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#23706638 - 10/04/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But individuals who choose to enforce a corrupt system or enforce unjust penalties for unjust laws are morally culpable for that choice.
An SS or Gestapo in Nazi germany had the exact same excuse for hunting down Jews as an American police officer has for locking up cannabis users - none at all.
Serving a corrupt system willingly is itself morally inexcusable.
A cop who takes a father away from his children and throws him in a cage for self medicating with a dried herb has done something truly evil, and following orders is no excuse for evil.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23706650 - 10/04/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: But individuals who choose to enforce a corrupt system or enforce unjust penalties for unjust laws are morally culpable for that choice.
An SS or Gestapo in Nazi germany had the exact same excuse for hunting down Jews as an American police officer has for locking up cannabis users - none at all.
Serving a corrupt system willingly is itself morally inexcusable.
A cop who takes a father away from his children and throws him in a cage for self medicating with a dried herb has done something truly evil, and following orders is no excuse for evil.
I agree but we are all human, you cant forget that.
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Of course not. Murderers and rapists are human as well and so are their victims.
Cannabis users rotting in jail away from their loved ones are human and so are the police who throw them in prison before going home to their own families to enjoy a cold beer they bought with the paycheck they "earned" by arresting cancer patients and teenagers who use cannabis.
Love the sinner, hate the sin as they say.
But let's not pretend it's hard to understand why some people hate police or that it's unreasonable for them to do so.
If your sick grandfather was thrown in jail for growing a pot plant or if you couldn't get a job to feed your kids because you smoked cannabis to treat your nausea, you would likely hate police too.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: Patlal]
#23706887 - 10/04/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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A cop's job isn't to follow breadcrumbs. No. A cop's job is to arrest and levy fines against people who are, by definition, innocent until proven guilty. Then a judge, later, decides whether that freedom should be given back or not. The cop is a glorified delivery driver. So a cop's job is to remove the freedom of innocent people, or use the threat of it, as they see fit. That is literally the opposite of the American ideals of freedom and autonomy. I hate cops because they are anti-freedom. What kind of person decides they want to go oppress people for a living? I mean, the underlying psychology, the cognitive dissonance, is dumbfounding. It's for these reasons that all cops are equally repulsive shit stains; there are no "bad apples" when they're all the same monster.
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Re: Why do people hate the police? [Re: abltsandwich]
#23706903 - 10/04/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What kind of person decides they want to go oppress people for a living?
An asshole.
Most cops probably join to protect people from violence and keep the peace.
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Yeah, it's easy to say all cops are the same if you barely talk to any. I've got 2 in my family and neither are the kind of guys to become a cop to "oppress people." They both don't like arresting people for drugs, they joined to actually help their communities, to get thieves and murderers off the street. Unfortunately, if they don't arrest people for drugs also then they would get fired and have that opportunity to help their communities taken away.
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