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Who is Your Historical PHigure?
    #23702584 - 10/03/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

just curious as to some 'personal favorite' historical figures people relate to/enjoy studying/want to be.

Mine is probably Grigori Rasputin.
He was a self-made mystic with a little Epicurus thrown in as well.

plus his 'exit' from this world was pretty legit and impressive.

so? who are some of history's greats in your opinion?


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_] * 1
    #23702591 - 10/03/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

G K Chesterton is my history spirit animal..

i wish i was more like him but the only thing we really have in common is we are both absentminded.. he was a prolific author and publisher and all round good time..


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: quinn] * 1
    #23702633 - 10/03/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sherlock Holmes


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #23702710 - 10/03/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nietzsche or don Juan Matus.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: DrStupid] * 1
    #23702762 - 10/03/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Shulgin


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_] * 1
    #23702919 - 10/03/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Le Marquis de Lafayette


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_] * 1
    #23704334 - 10/03/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dawkins maybe, he's pretty old.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: quinn] * 1
    #23707937 - 10/04/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So many great people, you can find a deep connection with almost anyone through their work, as long as it's genuine and well written. Some of the ancient Greek philosophers come to mind. Anaximander, Socrates, Empedocles etc.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: secondorder] * 1
    #23707965 - 10/04/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Huxley & Shulgin are my historical heroes.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23708051 - 10/04/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Huxley = awesome

I also like Jung


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #23708116 - 10/04/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yeah huxley is great great


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: secondorder]
    #23709179 - 10/05/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Greek philosophies are cool, but the philosophers' lives probably aren't for me.  their daily routine would drive me crazy just sitting around thinking.  doesn't seem all that self-sufficient.

there were plenty of conflicts between the states but i can't think of a greek philosophical military commander.

Their Gov't totally doesn't get the same appreciation as the Roman Empire in any social studies class i've taken so thanks for making me google a little refresher about them.

i could totally be wrong though because "what do i know?" :smile:



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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_] * 2
    #23709852 - 10/05/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Currently I'm into Hunter S Thompson

I really dig his social commentary. 

His ability to go against the grain, while simultaneously being intuitively aware on a primal level of which way the grain is going. 

His ability to reason through situations. 

And his humor.  Sort of a shock humor.  Exaggerating situations slightly to show the hilarious grotesque and absurd, but with more than a grain of truth.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Hippocampus] * 1
    #23710275 - 10/05/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Don Quixote


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: nuentoter] * 1
    #23710282 - 10/05/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)




LYRICS
Honor was not just a word
To knights of old who pledged their faith
In love over gold, love over gold.
Now they laughed at his fantasy world
And maximized all the potentials to earn The middle class was too blind to see
The true nobility of Don Quixote.

Oh, Don Quixote fight your way into their hearts
Commit your hearts all

How unreal are the dragons he slays
Is his coat of arms just an empty clich?
Colossal ignorance shared by the crowd
The brainless bigots cast an inhuman shroud
Many hearts and minds are going to waste
Liberal philosophies you wear like your clothes
The modern hypocrite he don't even know
Who could be proud of this blank generation
Who could be proud of you blank

Sit there, sit there watching


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Hippocampus] * 1
    #23710333 - 10/05/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nice! I was actually thinking more like....





"Through the woodland, through the valley
Comes a horseman wild and free
Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be
He is wild but he is mellow
He is strong but he is weak
He is cruel but he is gentle
He is wise but he is meek
Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a battered book into his hand
Standing like a prophet bold
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Till he can shout no more

I have come o'er moor and mountain
Like the hawk upon the wing
I was once a shining knight
Who was the guardian of a king
I have searched the whole world over
Looking for a place to sleep
I have seen the strong survive
And I have seen the lean grown weak

See the children of the earth
Who wake to find the table bare
See the gentry in the country
Riding off to take the air

Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a rusty sword into his hand
Then striking up a knightly pose
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Till he can shout no more

See the jailor with his key
Who locks away all trace of sin
See the judge upon the bench
Who tries the case as best he can
See the wise and wicked ones
Who feed upon life's sacred fire
See the soldier with his gun
Who must be dead to be admired

See the man who tips the needle
See the man who buys and sells
See the man who puts the collar
On the ones who dare not tell
See the drunkard in the tavern
Stemming gold to make ends meet
See the youth in ghetto black
Condemned to life upon the street

Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a tarnished cross into his hand
Then standing like a preacher now
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Then in a blaze of tangled hooves
He gallops off across the dusty plain
In vain to search again
Where no one will hear

Through the woodland, through the valley
Comes a horseman wild and free
Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be
He is wild but he is mellow
He is strong but he is weak
He is cruel but he is gentle
He is wise but he is meek"

-Gordon Lightfoot


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: nuentoter]
    #23710735 - 10/05/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Don Quixote



I started reading the book but put it down after a while; it didn't grab me. All I made out was that he was some bonkers old bloke, but I suspect there's some underlying subtlety I've missed?


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23710828 - 10/05/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes and no (?)


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_]
    #23711233 - 10/05/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23711273 - 10/05/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Vlad III.

And also the Mayor of Cormorant, Minn. - Duke. He seems like he would be a much better politician then the dumb fucks we have to chose from, and if you google him - you can see, he is obviously more patriotic.

I've never seen a politician look better in a hat. EVER.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_] * 1
    #23711457 - 10/05/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Camus
Huxley
Pyrrho
Hunter S Thompson
McKenna
Leary
Watts
Lao Tzu


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Exceed19_2000]
    #23712257 - 10/06/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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And also the Mayor of Cormorant, Minn. - Duke.



current mayors aren't historical phigures
:trololol:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement#Survival_time





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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: bait_]
    #23712400 - 10/06/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bait_ said:
Quote:

Exceed19_2000 said:
And also the Mayor of Cormorant, Minn. - Duke.



current mayors aren't historical phigures
:trololol:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement#Survival_time








No they are not, but they are historical figures. Do you think that either of the Mayor Daley's of Chicago were not historical figures when they were in power. Old man Daley was the second most powerful man in the U.S. when J.F.K. was President. More so than LBJ. History is always being written. Some times it takes till later to know and sometimes it doesn't.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23712488 - 10/06/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

his·tor·i·cal
hiˈstôrək(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: historical

    of or concerning history; concerning past events.
    "the historical background to such studies"
        belonging to the past, not the present.
        "famous historical figures"
        synonyms: past, bygone, ancient, old, former; literary of yore
        "historical figures"
        antonyms: contemporary
        (especially of a novel or movie) set in the past.
        (of the study of a subject) based on an analysis of its development over a period.
        "for the Darwinians, biogeography became a historical science"
        synonyms: documented, recorded, chronicled, archival; More
        authentic, factual, actual, true
        "historical evidence"
        antonyms: mythical, legendary

Origin
late Middle English: via Latin from Greek historikos (see historic).


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: nuentoter]
    #23714843 - 10/07/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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McKenna
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Yeah Mckenna's intellect is, to me, probably the deepest, most creative and most insightful I've ever discovered. I'll actually take him for my answer.


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Re: Who is Your Historical PHigure? [Re: secondorder]
    #23715195 - 10/07/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I did forget Alan Watts and Leo Tolstoy


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