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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Patlal]
    #23703040 - 10/03/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.




Handguns are awesome.



If you're ever in colorado I'll teach you how to use one properly :wink:.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Patlal]
    #23703060 - 10/03/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: falsereality]
    #23703064 - 10/03/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

In the USA its a right .

In canada its a privelage.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: King Klick]
    #23703088 - 10/03/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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King Klick said:
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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.




Every right has exceptions.


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Invisiblefalsereality


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: koods]
    #23703099 - 10/03/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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King Klick said:
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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.




Every right has exceptions.




uh... how about the thirteenth amendment granting freedom to everyone?


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23703102 - 10/03/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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King Klick said:
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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.




Every right has exceptions.



Then it's not a right.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: King Klick]
    #23703106 - 10/03/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing is a right. Rights are made up. Nobody us entitled to anything. You have to either be lucky enough to get something, work for it or a combination of both.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: falsereality]
    #23703114 - 10/03/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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falsereality said:
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koods said:
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King Klick said:
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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.




Every right has exceptions.




uh... how about the thirteenth amendment granting freedom to everyone?




The exception is literally written into the text of the amendment.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: King Klick]
    #23703124 - 10/03/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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King Klick said:
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koods said:
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King Klick said:
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Patlal said:
Rifles are a right that can be made into a privilege if you broke the law.

Handguns is just stupid.



The point of calling it a right as opposed to a privilege is that it is universal and has no exceptions.




Every right has exceptions.



Then it's not a right.




There is nothing about a right that is inherently permanent. The word simply doesn't imply that at all. You need to modify it with an adjective like "inalienable right." None of the rights listed in the constitution are set in stone. They could be repealed with a constitutional amendment.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23703247 - 10/03/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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in the US it's a right for all those not disqualified such as convicts, violent felons, etc...

in other parts of the world it's typically not a right





Not all convicts are banned from owning guns, all felons are, regardless of violence or not.





not all felons are excluded from owning a gun either





Under federal law no felons can own guns.

Find me literature that proves otherwise.

Also felons can vote in ohio.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: vandago]
    #23703252 - 10/03/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

People who have felonies can petition for their right to obtain a weapon again in some states.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23703258 - 10/03/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

3. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, "Felons whose convictions have been set-aside or expunged, or for which the person has been pardoned or has had civil rights restored" are not considered "convicted" and thus they would not be prohibited from owning a gun.




Holy shit I can get a gun!!!!

I had my civil rights restored when I got done with my felonies.  I am so getting a pistol next week.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: ruaware] * 1
    #23703259 - 10/03/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Makes no sense to have obtaining a gun be easier than obtaining a drivers license





For most people its easier to use a gun safely than a care. Beautiful sig gif btw.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: vandago]
    #23703267 - 10/03/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"03-06-2013 PROBATION - TERMINATION - RESTORED TO ALL CIVIL RIGHTS "


I never knew I could get a gun.  I have been sitting around gunless for 5 years, and I get off probation tomorrow.

I am so getting a gun next week.

This is amazing news.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: vandago]
    #23703311 - 10/03/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What kinda gun will you be getting?


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Asante]
    #23703416 - 10/03/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
What kinda gun will you be getting?




:popcorn:


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: falsereality]
    #23703427 - 10/03/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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falsereality said:
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ruaware said:
But one is meant to transport you, and the other is meant to kill.




Both can kill.



imo they should be licensed and restricted similarly as both are pretty dangerous, and there's a lot of idiots who shouldn't be allowed to drive, just as many shouldn't own a gun. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as the restrictions are clear and not subject to too much manipulation after being instituted


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23703437 - 10/03/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
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falsereality said:
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ruaware said:
But one is meant to transport you, and the other is meant to kill.




Both can kill.



imo they should be licensed and restricted similarly as both are pretty dangerous, and there's a lot of idiots who shouldn't be allowed to drive, just as many shouldn't own a gun. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as the restrictions are clear and not subject to too much manipulation after being instituted




I can agree with that. It's certainly not a black and white issue.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23703577 - 10/03/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
Nothing is a right. Rights are made up.




Bullshit. These rights are endowed by our creator and are thus self-evident. The Bill of Rights doesn't invent these rights, it preserves them.


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Re: Is owning a gun a right or a privilege? [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23703584 - 10/03/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
Nothing is a right. Rights are made up.




Bullshit. These rights are endowed by our creator and are thus self-evident. The Bill of Rights doesn't invent these rights, it preserves them.




lolololololololololol

where were these 'rights' pre-history? How exactly do you determine these specific rights to be endowed by the creator?


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