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zoidbergo
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First Real Grow - BRF shiitake
#23701543 - 10/02/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is my first grow other than an oyster growkit (it was a gift). I'm roughly following the tek here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11897262#11897262 I made ten half pint jars and inoculated them with culture from a shroomery vendor on September 23.
Pictures! Here are the jars as of today, 9 days after inoculation.

I just realized today that jar #8 wasn't filled nearly enough, not quite sure how that happened. As far as I can tell all of the jars have some nice growth started, with the exception of jar #3 where I can't find any growth. At least it's not growing contams though .
I'll keep the updates coming as they grow. Advice is always welcome!
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#23761352 - 10/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here we are just over four weeks later:

I tried to take photos of the least colonized part of the jars. Just about everything minus those few obvious spots looks colonized. I think they've been going a little slowly since it's warm here, usually mid to high 80's. Should these guys go in the fridge? A few of them are just starting to develop "bark" spots. I'm worried I'll let the more developed ones sit too long before going into the fridge. How bad is an extra week on the shelf? Will the refrigerator slow their colonization/consolodation?
Still no contams, so even though the grow is a little small I'd call it a success so far.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#23761356 - 10/22/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Ferather]
#23762095 - 10/22/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good work 
How are you going to fruit them?
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zoidbergo
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: filyep]
#23765491 - 10/23/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just a standard SGFC, nothing special.
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zoidbergo
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#23804672 - 11/05/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well after doing some more research, mostly RR posts, I've realized it's probably better to let them consolidate for at least a month. I'm getting impatient. A few of my jars seem to have stalled though.
Jars 6 and 7 here look like they haven't progressed at all in the last two weeks.

What's up with that?
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#23804902 - 11/05/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If there is no color ,, grain looking normal,is usually a sign of bacteria or not enough air.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Quadman]
#23805219 - 11/06/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Flip them upside down or on there side.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Gr0wer]
#23805708 - 11/06/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you review your first set of images you can see lots of contams. I let you off because your second post looked fine. I guessed it was the camera. Anyhow I see mold patches, and pic 3 has a giant black patch.
Could still be your camera, I guess ask for others to check and verify.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Ferather]
#23806067 - 11/06/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quadman said: If there is no color ,, grain looking normal,is usually a sign of bacteria or not enough air.
Isn't there supposed to be very little FAE while they're in the jars though? I mean other than the inoculation holes covered with tyvek I don't see how air could get in at all.
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Gr0wer said: Flip them upside down or on there side.
I'll try this. Does this have something to do with the mycelium's sense of gravity? I know plants know which way is up and grow up, but that's because they need to reach the surface for sunlight.
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Ferather said: If you review your first set of images you can see lots of contams.
Do you mean the empty space? I don't see anything that looks like contams on any of the pictures, especially nothing black.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#23806117 - 11/06/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tyvek breathes that's why it is used , the pores are to small to let in contaminates. Flipping the jar creates air space to the uncolonized portion. I was using tyvek but am switching to more permeable barrier. Had too many jars stalling.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Quadman]
#23998102 - 01/10/17 12:30 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well I ended up having to wait a few extra weeks before I could open my jars. They all already have pins, but I birthed the cakes and they smelled good. Here they are two days ago

They seemed fine enough so I soaked them, maybe for a little too long, ~30 hours, and got them in the SGFC. I could use a bit more perlite, but it isn't terribly low. It's difficult to tell how much I should mist them. Also, I recall reading a post by RR saying shiitake need lots of fae and that I shouldn't keep the lid on my SGFC, but I can't find the post to confirm. Should I use the lid?

I'm planning on fanning and misting around 4 times a day to work around my schedule. Let's hope I haven't ruined them yet!
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#24003596 - 01/12/17 10:04 AM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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This is interesting, I hope it works out!
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: Lobi]
#24012652 - 01/15/17 05:08 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Well one of the cakes is fruiting, but I'm not sure why the others aren't. I think I may be misting them too heavily.

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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#24019694 - 01/18/17 11:21 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Here are a few pics just to update. After rewatching Let's Grow Mushrooms I realize I only dunked, and didn't roll. I should have placed the cakes back into the jars too, but eh I'll probably just leave them like this and see how it goes. Some of them are fruiting anyways.

I've noticed several cakes are fruiting from the bottom rather than any other side. I wonder if water is collecting at the bottom.
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Re: First Real Grow - BRF shiitake [Re: zoidbergo]
#24019721 - 01/18/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Hmmm interesting, what happens if you do the same but instead of vermiculite use paper pellets? It can obviously yield from starch, interesting project. Cakes look a little dry to me.
Keep up the good work though, remember taste is important too.
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