|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.)
#23701242 - 10/02/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
A while back I destroyed (light on fire) 1/4 lb of plain salvia leaf, a 1/4 oz of salvia extracts ranging from 5-50x, 25mg of 4-aco-dmt, and a few ounces or so of kratom. I did this a few days after a mushroom trip because I thought that tripping on salvia was too much for my mind to take anymore. I sort of regret it/sort of don't.
-What drugs have you destroyed? (include amount) -Did you or did you not regret doing it afterwards? -What was your reasoning for doing so?
I wanna hear what drugs you folks have laid to rest.
Edited by Bigfeely123 (10/02/16 06:53 PM)
|
connectedcosmos
Neti Neti



Registered: 02/07/15
Posts: 7,426
Loc: The Pathless Path
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23701247 - 10/02/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
4 hits of 25inbome flushed no regrets!
Sketchy chemical
--------------------
 54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?
|
TNK
Pleasures of Africa



Registered: 01/30/10 
Posts: 14,237
Loc: I AM THUNDERBOT
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23701257 - 10/02/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I threw away about a half gram of U44770 and next morning had major regret but it was probably the safe move.
-------------------- Edited by TNK (02/22/22 22:22 PM)
|
Deemstar
Doctor Deemstar



Registered: 10/11/12
Posts: 883
Loc: The void
Last seen: 7 hours, 42 minutes
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: connectedcosmos] 1
#23701275 - 10/02/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
1/2 gram or so each 2-c-i, 2 c-e, 2 c-p,, rolls molly.
i was really fond of the stash i had aquirred but i had to flush the stash due to demonic, grim hallucinations. Had a schizophrenic trip where i was told i would end up turning into a demon after my death if i didn't lay off the drugs.
Question if i should of flushed it, or what was happening, but i felt like was experiencing spirits stabbing and cutting at different appendages, and experienced a tactile hallucination of the grim reaper shoving its scythe up my ass..
-------------------- Gnome-miii-odd JAH!!! Pasta-far-eye! R.I.P. Georgie poor G A.K.A. Jorgon Lucy
|
DrStupid
Standup Philosopher


Registered: 09/24/16
Posts: 42
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23701301 - 10/02/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I personally have not. However, I once ran into a friend who had some really nice shrooms and an ounce of weed that was so covered in crystals that it looked sugar frosted. He said he was going home to eat the mushrooms and have a nice evening.
I happened to stop by his house the next day. He told me he had eaten the mushrooms and got about an hour in when he started getting "bad vibes" from the uneaten mushrooms and that beautiful weed. So he flushed them. Worse, perhaps, was that he also got really bad vibes from his Alien Xenomorph action figure. So he threw it away.
I told him the next time that the weed of the gods was threatening him, to call me and I'd come and take it off his hands.
-------------------- The aim is to balance the terror of being alive with the wonder of being alive.
|
Morel Guy
Stranger


Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 15,577
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: DrStupid]
#23701335 - 10/02/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I have flushed home grown weed. Was about to go to court and then jail. People were moving me to a hous and I had nowhere I could hide it. Plus I was gonna get some probation. Flushed cannabis seeds later on. No means to grow and seed depot was selling F2s as F1, couldn't trust them. Much better shit out these days
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23701350 - 10/02/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I flushed 50g of red vein borneo kratom down the toilet yesterday.
No regrets at all.
Kratom is worthless trash to me.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
yourboybob
professional faggot

Registered: 08/28/16
Posts: 271
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23701454 - 10/02/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
ye once after a disaster of a trip i threw out some weed, a couple hits of good L and 500mg of dmt along with an oil pipe and a really beautiful bong.
not one of my better moments lmao
|
Shroomslip
Architekt



Registered: 11/25/12
Posts: 23,651
Last seen: 4 hours, 58 minutes
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23701459 - 10/02/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Not that I can recall and I doubt I ever did. I've kept drugs when I knew the cops were about to be raiding my place. If that isn't gonna get me to flush them, I don't think anything is.
--------------------
With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Deemstar]
#23701499 - 10/02/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Deemstar said: 1/2 gram or so each 2-c-i, 2 c-e, 2 c-p,, rolls molly.
i was really fond of the stash i had aquirred but i had to flush the stash due to demonic, grim hallucinations. Had a schizophrenic trip where i was told i would end up turning into a demon after my death if i didn't lay off the drugs.
Question if i should of flushed it, or what was happening, but i felt like was experiencing spirits stabbing and cutting at different appendages, and experienced a tactile hallucination of the grim reaper shoving its scythe up my ass..
Yeah, I stopped doing 2c-X after the roachman began appearing, especially when I read about other people running into the roachman. Was done with that shit.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23701511 - 10/02/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
May have thrown out some LSD a few years back, not sure.
Definitely threw out some MDMA, but considering how much I had and the fact that you can rarely use it
|
The Moose
Alces alces


Registered: 08/31/15
Posts: 2,389
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Shroomslip]
#23701618 - 10/02/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Same. I had a chance to flush a bunch of h with cops at the door and didn't.
|
ModestMouse
IM WALKIN ON SUNSHINE


Registered: 05/06/13
Posts: 19,227
Loc: Upstate
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: The Moose]
#23701811 - 10/02/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've thrown Kratom in the trash casually and not given 2 fux
I've never thrown anything else out, what a waste
-------------------- Anyone got a lowpass filter in this biiiiash?
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23703053 - 10/03/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I flushed cocaine and etizolam dozens of times each before.succesfully quitting both addictions. I rarely regret it, never regretted flushing blow.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703055 - 10/03/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: I flushed cocaine and etizolam dozens of times each before.succesfully quitting both addictions. I rarely regret it, never regretted flushing blow.
blow is awesome. anyone who says otherwise has never had sex on blow or has only done low quality coke.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Mr. Magic



Registered: 07/13/14
Posts: 1,951
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703084 - 10/03/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I trashed over an ounce of mushrooms because someone threatened to turn me in for growing. It was one of my first grows too.
Be careful who you tell... better yet dont tell anyone.
--------------------
|
The Moose
Alces alces


Registered: 08/31/15
Posts: 2,389
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703085 - 10/03/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Broken record?
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: The Moose]
#23703113 - 10/03/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Ive thrown out cigarettes and ive given away morning glory seeds. Thats it.
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23703131 - 10/03/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
Deemstar said: 1/2 gram or so each 2-c-i, 2 c-e, 2 c-p,, rolls molly.
i was really fond of the stash i had aquirred but i had to flush the stash due to demonic, grim hallucinations. Had a schizophrenic trip where i was told i would end up turning into a demon after my death if i didn't lay off the drugs.
Question if i should of flushed it, or what was happening, but i felt like was experiencing spirits stabbing and cutting at different appendages, and experienced a tactile hallucination of the grim reaper shoving its scythe up my ass..
Yeah, I stopped doing 2c-X after the roachman began appearing, especially when I read about other people running into the roachman. Was done with that shit.
Elaborate on the roachman.
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: The Moose]
#23703150 - 10/03/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
The Moose said: Broken record?
Fuckin really eh?
|
PatrickKn



Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23703152 - 10/03/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: May have thrown out some LSD a few years back, not sure.
Definitely threw out some MDMA, but considering how much I had and the fact that you can rarely use it 
MDMA can last forever though. Can outlast you by hundreds of years at room temperature.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/03/16 10:56 AM)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23703181 - 10/03/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
vandago said:
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Yeah, I stopped doing 2c-X after the roachman began appearing, especially when I read about other people running into the roachman. Was done with that shit.
Elaborate on the roachman.
A humanoid roach who appeared tried to convince me to leave the body and go on some kind of venture with him It was a fairly creepy experience
Would you trust the roachman?
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23703182 - 10/03/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PatrickKn said:
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: May have thrown out some LSD a few years back, not sure.
Definitely threw out some MDMA, but considering how much I had and the fact that you can rarely use it 
MDMA can last forever though. Can outlast you by hundreds of years at room temperature.
Yeah, I had a bad trip and threw it out, was sober for a few months
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23703219 - 10/03/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I accidentally threw away the best acid. I feel like a dumbass
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
Connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23703223 - 10/03/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
yes
one time i hadnt done heroin in like a year and a half and i got like .4 of some really good #4 with two friends
we go back to my place and take a shot, i obviously only do a speck cause im not tryna kill myself and low and behold my one friend does way too much cause hes an asshole who doesnt care if he croaks in my fucking house (goof ball junkies got no class to em ).
so i flipped my lid cause i knew thatd happen and me and him are on probation together with the same P.O. I told him to leave he did pocketing my wallet on the way out possibly in an intoxicated stupor, possibly with intentions in mind and I sighed in relief as I shut the door behind him.
i went back upstairs this time just to do a lil bump of smack in the nose when who comes knocking at my door but mother fucking officer friendly.
i was so confused i just went out onto my lil front steps like ok wtf do you ass wipes want?" and they ask me wtf is going on cause they picked up my friend high as fuck walking home with NOTHING on him but my wallet...
so after telling them to fuck off i went into a panic decided to snort one more lil bump and flush what was over 300mg of some seriously strong #4 cause i was flipped out that our P.O would pick up on it and come over.
lil did i know nothing would happen at all and thats how i started my relapse.
|
The Moose
Alces alces


Registered: 08/31/15
Posts: 2,389
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23703232 - 10/03/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think i could flush smack. Its something about how she calls my name... I miss her so
|
PatrickKn



Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23703235 - 10/03/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
PatrickKn said:
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: May have thrown out some LSD a few years back, not sure.
Definitely threw out some MDMA, but considering how much I had and the fact that you can rarely use it 
MDMA can last forever though. Can outlast you by hundreds of years at room temperature.
Yeah, I had a bad trip and threw it out, was sober for a few months
Ah yeah. Happened to me a few years ago. Threw some acid and DOC away mid way into a DOC trip that was going south. Just got super paranoid at the time. There have been a couple other trips where I'd get a sense of paranoia and think about throwing stuff away only to decide not to.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703238 - 10/03/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
The only silver lining to the misery of blow was the frantic hardcore sex we would have to distract ourselves from the abject misery of the comedown and insomnia and self loathing.
I did good blow (almost uncut) fresh off the boat in dominican republic , and it was indeed much more euphoric, almost MDMA like- until the local who sold it to us called over two uniformed military police saying "i want you to see their faces, i want you to temember their faces" as they shone flashlights in our eyes.
That threw me into the worst all night panic attack of my life and i was completely convinced we were going to dominican prison.
But no, cocaine is a horrible drug because it causes cumulative damage to your heart with every single use, and also poses an unavoidable risk of death with every use regardless of dose, and most long term users have permanent damage and structural deformity of the heart.
Many cocaine users have already had one or more silent heart attacks without even knowing, and users are 48 times more likely to suffer sudden cardiac death.
Because of the unavoidable risk of sudden death and the guaranteed cumulative heart damage, cocaine is one of the most dangerous and damaging of all commonly used drugs.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Sheekle
FREE BURKE



Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53,153
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703246 - 10/03/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
why do u guys flush drugs instead of throw them in the trash, do u want to poison the water supply?
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23703250 - 10/03/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Shut up. You flush more drugs than I do.
|
Sheekle
FREE BURKE



Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53,153
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23703256 - 10/03/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
ouch, you really burned me
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23703260 - 10/03/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Once on three grams of shrooms i got stuck in this thing and i forgot who i was. All i knew was that i was a male human and i did drugs and thats why i was like this. I was getting these quick strong sensations which were really uncomfortable. It was acctual torture.
When i escaped i wanted to flush my shrooms but i knew not to do it whole i was tripping. I would wait until the next day but at the time i never wanted to trip again so i really thought i would. I didnt and would have really regetted it.
That wasnt even a bad trip though it was awesome over all and ive gotten stuck in similar things before but the sensation was never as bad again and i know how to get out now.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23703262 - 10/03/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: why do u guys flush drugs instead of throw them in the trash, do u want to poison the water supply?
Do people drink toilet water in Connecticut?
There's doodoo in that water
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703271 - 10/03/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: The only silver lining to the misery of blow was the frantic hardcore sex we would have to distract ourselves from the abject misery of the comedown and insomnia and self loathing.
I did good blow (almost uncut) fresh off the boat in dominican republic , and it was indeed much more euphoric, almost MDMA like- until the local who sold it to us called over two uniformed military police saying "i want you to see their faces, i want you to temember their faces" as they shone flashlights in our eyes.
That threw me into the worst all night panic attack of my life and i was completely convinced we were going to dominican prison.
But no, cocaine is a horrible drug because it causes cumulative damage to your heart with every single use, and also poses an unavoidable risk of death with every use regardless of dose, and most long term users have permanent damage and structural deformity of the heart.
Many cocaine users have already had one or more silent heart attacks without even knowing, and users are 48 times more likely to suffer sudden cardiac death.
Because of the unavoidable risk of sudden death and the guaranteed cumulative heart damage, cocaine is one of the most dangerous and damaging of all commonly used drugs.
The sheer pleasure of having sex on coke is so unbelievably incredible that it more than makes up for the shitty comedown.
Don't do coke in shitty countries. I was offered coke in Cuba but there's no way I'd risk that shit there. No reason to hate on coke because you got paranoid for doing it in a nearly third world country....
The comedown isn't even that bad if you have some Xanax or weed.
Coke is awesome. Way better than MDMA.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23703279 - 10/03/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Oh shit i forgot the absolute worst flush of my drug flushing career (so extensive that one chapter of WCA was almost named "Moonshoe's Dank Toilet water" )
The worst regret was flushing some DMT which i have only found a few times- but i was deep in a severe psychotic episode at the time and that was only one of the irrational things i did at that time.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23703280 - 10/03/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: ouch, you really burned me
Not my fault you ignored the fact I had herpes.
someone offers me 50 bucks to suck my dick, and they are aware of an outbreak, I'm gonna take it.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703284 - 10/03/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Be clear- although i never enjoyed cocaine personally i know most people do.
My problem with coke is very simple- if you use it repeatedly you will either die of a heart attack or cause permanent structural damage to your heart.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#23703288 - 10/03/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
here we fucking go again
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23703289 - 10/03/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Asantes probably gonna perm me for this but I dumped out a couple eightballs worth of mxe, back when it first hit rhe market. The compulsive redosing was too much for me. Wish I just kept it. I didnt even hole properly.
|
PatrickKn



Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703297 - 10/03/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Be clear- although i never enjoyed cocaine personally i know most people do.
My problem with coke is very simple- if you use it repeatedly you will either die of a heart attack or cause permanent structural damage to your heart.
I used coke for daily about a year straight when I was 20-21, and more sparingly for a few years after that. An enormous waste of money. I'm not sure on how much I damaged my heart, but I don't think it was permanent. As I was unable to run even a mile a few years ago, and these days I can run 6 or 7 no problems.
Guess I've never gotten my heart checked out though.
|
ModestMouse
IM WALKIN ON SUNSHINE


Registered: 05/06/13
Posts: 19,227
Loc: Upstate
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23703331 - 10/03/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I lost some "tan" MXE at a festival cause it spilled into my duffel bag but I didn't care since that isomer or poor purity shit had a bad feel to it
MXE in general is sinister in the same way heroin is. You'll give your reality to it and not even realize it's done nothing but put you down
-------------------- Anyone got a lowpass filter in this biiiiash?
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23703335 - 10/03/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah most users think "i have used cocaine many times and i am fine" not realizing that they have scarring on their heart that they cant feel.
Even when having a heart attack you might feel nothing more than a short period of nausea , dizziness and sweating, and often not even that.
Many chronic cocaine users will die of heart problems in middle age caused by cocaine use in their teens or twenties.
Cocaine severley damaged my entire social circle. Its pretty breathtaking how much suffering and harm it caused my generation.
Recently had the first cocaine death in my social circle. A friend lost his girlfriend.
She was 30.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703353 - 10/03/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I had a 24 yr old socialite in one of my social groups od on a single rip before. She was a recovering addict and decided to give er one night. Heart flatlined minutes later. The garbage is lethal, but people are obesessed with the "glam" of blowing obscene amounts of money on a shit high so theyre willing to defend it.
|
Connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23703355 - 10/03/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: Asantes probably gonna perm me for this but I dumped out a couple eightballs worth of mxe, back when it first hit rhe market. The compulsive redosing was too much for me. Wish I just kept it. I didnt even hole properly.
wow
just wow
|
Sky Walker
Vulture of Culture



Registered: 02/11/12
Posts: 605
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703385 - 10/03/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I have definitely flushed some some shit. Mostly blow, as a result of it making me feel like shit/I'm having heart attack, or because I wouldn't stop using it even tho it was shit. And yea I definitely regretted it at the moment as I was caught up in its addictive pull, but in retrospect, I did the right thing every time. Who knows what people stomp that shit with and blow just blows in general. Unless its some fire lol, but I just don't need that shit in my life.
I've also tossed some kratom, but not because I hate it or have a problem or anything, just because it was some shitty shit and made me feel horrible. This is an unusual effect for me, so I just assumed it was a bad batch. Only happened a couple of times.
As a biology major I actually studied and did project on the effects of flushing drugs, as it is a common method of disposal. So many people do it and the effects are significantly impacting the environment. Not to sound like a tree huger, but PLEASE don't flush drugs into the water system. Toilets are for poopin. Unless your getting raided. 
Edited by Sky Walker (10/03/16 12:02 PM)
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23703388 - 10/03/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thats why it is so uniquely dangerous- your friend didnt Overdose, she suffered cocaine sudden death which can happen to anyone.at sny dose.
With other drugs you die from taking too much. Cocaine is almost unique because any dose no matter how small poses a random risk of sudden death.
You could have done eightballs a night a hundred times then one dau die from a single line .
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Starstepper
AI Brobot



Registered: 05/08/16
Posts: 2,935
Loc: The blip on the radar
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703450 - 10/03/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Almost every time I'm in Vegas I have to flush some blow and mdma capsules as I'm leaving for the airport. My group orders too much and if I finished it all I'd probably od.
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703508 - 10/03/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Thats why it is so uniquely dangerous- your friend didnt Overdose, she suffered cocaine sudden death which can happen to anyone.at sny dose.
With other drugs you die from taking too much. Cocaine is almost unique because any dose no matter how small poses a random risk of sudden death.
You could have done eightballs a night a hundred times then one dau die from a single line .
I mentioned sudden cocaine death in another thread and everyone said it was bullshit and that alcohol was more dangerous than cocaine
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23703605 - 10/03/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
People are extremely uninformed about the risks and harms of cocaine and generally speaking people massively underestimate how harmful cocaine is.
People have a pervasive misconception that cocaine is a relatively safe drug, which could not be farther from the truth.
Alcohol causes more harm overall because it is more widely used.
However, there is no risk of randomly dying from a single beer.
Yet a single small line of coke can kill a healthy young man instantly and randomly and there is no way to predict or prevent it.
Furthermore cocaine becomes exponentially more dangerous and toxic when combined with alcohol, which it always is.
It is remarkable how ignorant and misinformed cocaine users are about the risk of instant death and the certainty of cumulative heart damage.
It is because the harmful misconception of cocaine as safe persists that I continue to make posts like this to educate people whenever the topic arises .
I know when I started using cocaine I had no idea how spectacularly dangerous and harmful it was or that every single line threatened my life and did permanent damage.
My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Morel Guy
Stranger


Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 15,577
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703675 - 10/03/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Perhaps alkaloids shouldn't be extracted fm plants. Turns it into a totally different drug. Even caffeine in it's pure from has killed people. I think all plants should be legal but how could you stop people from bathtub extracts?
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Morel Guy]
#23703693 - 10/03/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Morel Guy said: how could you stop people from bathtub extracts?
Wut.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703702 - 10/03/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
That young person definitely won't be me.
Cocaine is fucking amazing. I'll continue to recreationally use cocaine and have sex with hookers on it while you take fucking Kratom. I'll live till I'm 100.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Morel Guy]
#23703705 - 10/03/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Why would you stop them?
All drugs should be legal, and people should be educated about the harms and risks, and addictions treatment and harm reduction measures should be universally available .
Cocaine is a horrible, harmful, unsafe drug and no one should ever use it.
But breaking up families, throwing people in jail and giving them criminal records so they can't get a job only makes things worse, and prohibition created the cartels and the ultraviolence that they create.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Sky Walker
Vulture of Culture



Registered: 02/11/12
Posts: 605
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703714 - 10/03/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I like the idea of keeping the plants intact, the way nature intended. Though I sure have enjoyed my fair share of concentrates and isolates. These days I tend to stick to the natural plant based drugs, with the occasional synthetic. The great thing about consuming an entire plant is you also receive the full spectrum of effects, both noticeable and unnoticeable.
I forgot to mention, I've also flushed some oxymorphone. Had to toss it after nodding off on my girlfriends parents stairs during her birthday party. Thankful it was only for a minute and I don't think anyone noticed. That was at the peak of my opiate abuse and at that moment realized I or anyone else I knew had any business messing around with Opana. That shit it nutz.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703732 - 10/03/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I hope you are right.
But even if you don't die, your physical health and athletic ability will be a hollow shell of what they would be without battering your heart constantly.
Trading your physical fitness and athleticism for a cocaine high is a horrible bargain IMO.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 01:51 PM)
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703747 - 10/03/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: People are extremely uninformed about the risks and harms of cocaine and generally speaking people massively underestimate how harmful cocaine is.
People have a pervasive misconception that cocaine is a relatively safe drug, which could not be farther from the truth.
Alcohol causes more harm overall because it is more widely used.
However, there is no risk of randomly dying from a single beer.
Yet a single small line of coke can kill a healthy young man instantly and randomly and there is no way to predict or prevent it.
Furthermore cocaine becomes exponentially more dangerous and toxic when combined with alcohol, which it always is.
It is remarkable how ignorant and misinformed cocaine users are about the risk of instant death and the certainty of cumulative heart damage.
It is because the harmful misconception of cocaine as safe persists that I continue to make posts like this to educate people whenever the topic arises .
I know when I started using cocaine I had no idea how spectacularly dangerous and harmful it was or that every single line threatened my life and did permanent damage.
My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
Not to mention the effects dopaminergic drugs can have on the brain. Which someone from that thread also said was "speculation with no proof" or something alone those lines i think.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#23703750 - 10/03/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Alexestalex said:
I'll live till I'm 100.
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23703791 - 10/03/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Alexestalex said:
Quote:
Moonshoe said: My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
That young person definitely won't be me.
Cocaine is fucking amazing. I'll continue to recreationally use cocaine and have sex with hookers on it while you take fucking Kratom. I'll live till I'm 100.
First of all guy kratom is the shit. Second yeah you are fine because you are less likely to die from shitty canadian cocaine that you bought from some torontonian in an LA flat brim. That has been cut by atleast 30 different people since its been extracted.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23703802 - 10/03/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
There is an immense amount of hard scientific proof that cocaine is so lethal and damaging.
There is zero doubt or controversy and no lack of evidence, users just never bothered to research it.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Sky Walker
Vulture of Culture



Registered: 02/11/12
Posts: 605
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23703806 - 10/03/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Truth
You forgot to mention all the orifices it traveled in as well.
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23703812 - 10/03/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: Asantes probably gonna perm me for this but I dumped out a couple eightballs worth of mxe, back when it first hit rhe market. The compulsive redosing was too much for me. Wish I just kept it. I didnt even hole properly.
First time I dumped out MXE it was the ultra pure fluffy stuff from 2012. Dumped out 16 grams of it.
The next time I dumped it out was a really shitty impure batch that was causing extremely weird side effects. 40 grams went down the drain.
3rd time me and three friends went into a synonymous hole that was so deathly fucked up it would take a page to write it all out, and we dumepd everything we had left which was about 14 grams.
Never gotten any since that last one.
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23703818 - 10/03/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I regret the hell out of 30 grams of that. The 40 was needed.
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23703829 - 10/03/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: People are extremely uninformed about the risks and harms of cocaine and generally speaking people massively underestimate how harmful cocaine is.
People have a pervasive misconception that cocaine is a relatively safe drug, which could not be farther from the truth.
Alcohol causes more harm overall because it is more widely used.
However, there is no risk of randomly dying from a single beer.
Yet a single small line of coke can kill a healthy young man instantly and randomly and there is no way to predict or prevent it.
Furthermore cocaine becomes exponentially more dangerous and toxic when combined with alcohol, which it always is.
It is remarkable how ignorant and misinformed cocaine users are about the risk of instant death and the certainty of cumulative heart damage.
It is because the harmful misconception of cocaine as safe persists that I continue to make posts like this to educate people whenever the topic arises .
I know when I started using cocaine I had no idea how spectacularly dangerous and harmful it was or that every single line threatened my life and did permanent damage.
My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
damn you've officially ruined coca for me..I also have used crack many a time.. I always thought it was relatively safe tho..I thought coke users and crackheads usaully dont o.d that's why you see so many all old and cracked out that they just keep peeling on.. now I think i'm gonna be to scared to use again..and I'm pretty sure I might have had a heart attack on crack before..
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago] 1
#23703836 - 10/03/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thinking about all that good mxe getting flushed hurts me.
Here is what legendary drug genius Ped had to say about cocaine.
Don't take my word for it. Take Ped's:
"Cocaine interferes with the electroconductivity of the heart by blocking the tiny currents necessary to sustain its normal rhythm. Just as cocaine makes a person's gums feel numb by blocking the transmission of nerve signals, so too cocaine blocks the transmission of nerve signals within and throughout the heart, effectively "numbing" it. This can lead to sudden cardiac death, which is to say that cocaine can cause a person's heart to abruptly stop without warning. Death is almost immediate. While this effect is quite rare, it appears to occur randomly, and can strike anyone at any age or health status.
The cardiotoxicity of cocaine is unique and multivariate, occurring by way of numerous mechanisms. Heart failure associated with cocaine use can occur by way of vasoconstriction, vasospasm, accelerated atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries), thrombogenesis (blood clots, embolisms), arrhythmia and proarrhythmia (novel and exacerbated voltage aberrations, respectively). Cocaine users are much more likely to have structural heart abnormalities, and have statistically higher rates of coronary artery disease and hypertrophic abnormalities in heart structure and valvulature, i.e., enlarged ventricles and thickened valves.
There is no question that cocaine is one of the most cardiotoxic of the primary illicit drugs. It is unique among stimulants in that it not only increases cardiovascular load by raising blood pressure and heart rate, but is also directly toxic to the organ itself, interfering with its structure and function. There is a small but very real risk of acute and sudden cardiac death, while long-term, chronic cocaine use enormously increases the risk of developing or accelerating an existing cardiovascular disease.
Except in rare (and usually fatal) cases, single-dose cocaine will not cause permanent damage to the heart. Used repeatedly, however, cocaine dramatically elevates the risk of developing structural abnormalities of the heart and blood vessels, which can in turn manifest as any number of cardiovascular diseases, whether acutely or in later life. If you are concerned about your cocaine use and its health impacts, it is definitely wise to listen to that concern, and to guide your decisions according to it, as the cardiotoxicity of cocaine is not easily overstated. It really is quite bad for your heart."
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 02:19 PM)
|
el_barto
Stranger



Registered: 10/26/11
Posts: 831
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23703849 - 10/03/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've thrown out coke a couple times and a bunch of Xanax. No regrets here
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703858 - 10/03/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
yeah when I think I was o.ding on crack was the scariest shit ever one morning the second I woke up I took the fattest rock straight to the dome and boom! ear ringing! I started sweating and this death glaze just came over and fear struck me like needles..wierd synchronicity happened that I was gonna die..fuct dude
|
pirate-blues


Registered: 10/15/12
Posts: 13,656
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23703873 - 10/03/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I can safely say I have never thrown away any drugs
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703874 - 10/03/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: There is an immense amount of hard scientific proof that cocaine is so lethal and damaging.
There is zero doubt or controversy and no lack of evidence, users just never bothered to research it.
I wish you or DB was there to back me up. its such a common misconception that cocaine is safe though. There was a kid on youtube who didnt know shit about drugs saying that the only reason meth exists is because its trying to imitate a cocaine high and cocaine is much, much safer than meth so cocaine should be legal. amphetamines have been known for a long time. Some people just make shit up. He probably thought that because cocaine is seen as more classy than amps it meant they are safer.
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,568
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23703900 - 10/03/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've thrown away an enormous amount of drugs over the years. 100+ hits of various NBOMes (25i, 25c and 25d), 250mg of some obscure stimulant whose name I forget, about 250mg of ethylphenidate, 400mg of an unknown 4-XX-XXX, 100mg allylescaline, and one time on a mushroom trip I got really paranoid and threw away my entire grow including probably 100 wet grams. This is just what I can remember off the top of my head.
The only one I regret is the mushroom grow. Never throw away drugs when you're still tripping. Always wait until you're sober again.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23703909 - 10/03/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Next time anyone challenges you about the harms of cocaine I recommend copying and pasting the above Ped quote.
What he says there is beyond dispute and will dispel any delusions about cocaine being even remotely safe.
Meth is exponentially more reinforcing, moreish, compulsive and addictive than cocaine and meth users are thus more likely to completely lose control of their behaviour and their lives.
However, cocaine is exponentially more harmful to your heart than meth and much more likely to kill you with a single dose.
Not only is cocaine easier to overdose on than meth, coke can also kill you without overdosing.
Coke can kill at average and even small doses.
Meth is a killer too though. It's incredibly addictive and the average meth user will be dead within seven years of first use.
Meth addiction is therefore essentially a terminal disease and Is the most compulsive of any common illicit drug.
One might say meth is more likely to ruin your life, while cocaine is more likely to kill you.
Both are Deadly in their own ways.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 02:36 PM)
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703921 - 10/03/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Next time anyone challenges you about the harms of cocaine I recommend copying and pasting the above Ped quote.
What he says there is beyond dispute and will dispel any delusions about cocaine being even remotely safe.
Meth is exponentially more reinforcing, moreish, compulsive and addictive than cocaine and meth users are thus more likely to completely lose control of their behaviour and their lives.
However, cocaine is exponentially more harmful to your heart than meth and much more likely to kill you with a single dose.
Not only is cocaine easier to overdose on than meth, coke can also kill you without overdosing.
Coke can kill at average and even small doses.
Meth is a killer too though. It's incredibly addictive and the average meth user will be dead within seven years of first use.
Meth addiction is therefore essentially a terminal disease and Is the most compulsive of any common illicit drug.
One might say meth is more likely to ruin your life, while cocaine is more likely to kill you.
Both are Deadly in their own ways.
yeah I hear meth users only last like 7 years the impurities rot their organs
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,568
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703924 - 10/03/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Have you ever actually done meth? It isn't very addictive, and it's effects are essentially just adderall XR with a little more serotonin effect. The main problem is that idiots binge on it doing 100+mg for days at a time. If people used meth responsibly, it'd be about as dangerous as adderall.
Also, meth is regularly prescribed to both children and the elderly. It's relatively safe if you use it responsibly.
Edited by nooneman (10/03/16 02:39 PM)
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703947 - 10/03/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
nooneman said: Have you ever actually done meth? It isn't very addictive, and it's effects are essentially just adderall XR with a little more serotonin effect. The main problem is that idiots binge on it doing 100+mg for days at a time. If people used meth responsibly, it'd be about as dangerous as adderall.
Also, meth is regularly prescribed to both children and the elderly. It's relatively safe if you use it responsibly.
no thanks that is the one drug I will never touch I mean did you not see the anti-drug videos when you were a child what that stuff does to people..that's what permanently put that nightmare in my brain to NEVER touch that stuff..I don't really like stims anyway so I dont even want a adderall or vyvanse
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23703949 - 10/03/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
xd
Edited by hellno (10/03/16 02:50 PM)
|
The Moose
Alces alces


Registered: 08/31/15
Posts: 2,389
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703953 - 10/03/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Dude meth fucks everything up. It just makes you want to binge. Fuck man after 1 day im doing 200+ mg shots multiple times daily. Absolute shit.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703977 - 10/03/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
No I have never done meth. However it is absolutely beyond dispute that meth is one of the most addictive of all drugs and the most immediately reinforcing / compulsive of all Drugs due to its unparalleled increase of dopamine levels in the brain.
Dopamine is the brain's reward system neurotransmitter and is directly associated with reinforcement of behavior.
When something causes Dopamine release the Dopamine creates the desire to repeat that activity.
Meth raises Dopamine levels more than any other drug and correspondingly reinforces the desire to repeatedly take the drug.
When you say meth isn't very addictive you are spreading harmful and extremely inaccurate misinformation.
Meth is incredibly, extremely, uniquely addictive and this is scientifically indisputable.
Meth use physically rewires the brain and repeated use changes the physical structure of the brain in a way that causes compulsive binging.
Meth addicts have a very low rate of successfully quitting for the same reason.
Chronic meth use hijacks the brain's reward system and makes the addict feel and act as if meth is necessary for survival like food or water.
The Dopamine release of meth and its effect on the nucleus accumbens rapidly hijacks the brain's decision making process so that meth is perceived as a physical NEED to the extent that an addicted rat will self administer meth in preference of food until it dies of starvation.
This is why meth addicts pursue meth to the exclusion of all else and often end up losing absolutely everything to the addiction- their brain literally tells them they need meth more than food, more than love, more than sex, more than their own children.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 03:10 PM)
|
Sheekle
FREE BURKE



Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53,153
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Starstepper]
#23704004 - 10/03/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Starstepper said: Almost every time I'm in Vegas I have to flush some blow and mdma capsules as I'm leaving for the airport. My group orders too much and if I finished it all I'd probably od.
so u dont just throw it out in a garbage or give it to someone?
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
|
Mush 4 Brains
about tree fiddy


Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 8,298
Loc: Tacos
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704007 - 10/03/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Threw away some meth before that my friend was given as coke. Hes like i got some shit but im not sure that its coke.
I scoped it, noticed its crystaline appearance. Grabbed a piece of tinfoil put a little fire underneath and i watched as a plume of white smoke filled the air.
I wanted nothing to do with it so i threw it out. I dont care for stimulants and figured it wasnt worth the risk playing with such an addictive drug. Its one of those drugs that i just wont ever do
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704014 - 10/03/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: No I have never done meth. However it is absolutely beyond dispute that meth is one of the most addictive of all drugs and the most immediately reinforcing / compulsive of all Drugs due to its unparalleled increase of dopamine levels in the brain.
Dopamine is the brain's reward system neurotransmitter and is directly associated with reinforcement of behavior.
When something causes Dopamine release the Dopamine creates the desire to repeat that activity.
Meth raises Dopamine levels more than any other drug and correspondingly reinforces the desire to repeatedly take the drug.
When you say meth isn't very addictive you are spreading harmful and extremely inaccurate misinformation.
Meth is incredibly, extremely, uniquely addictive and this is scientifically indisputable.
Meth use physically rewires the brain and repeated use changes the physical structure of the brain in a way that causes compulsive binging.
Meth addicts have a very low rate of successfully quitting for the same reason.
Chronic meth use hijacks the brain's reward system and makes the addict feel and act as if meth is necessary for survival like food or water.
The Dopamine release of meth and its effect on the nucleus accumbens rapidly hijacks the brain's decision making process so that meth is perceived as a physical NEED to the extent that an addicted rat will self administer meth in preference of food until it dies of starvation.
This is why meth addicts pursue meth to the exclusion of all else and often end up losing absolutely everything to the addiction- their brain literally tells them they need meth more than food, more than love, more than sex, more than their own children.
Everything you said about meth can be said about adderal.
Personally, I don't think meth/adderal are that dangerous if used in moderation.
I have abused the fuck out of adderal and the worst case scenario for me is usually one day of feeling shitty and then I'm back to normal.
I have never gotten any sort of withdrawals from amphetamine use.
Opiates are far more addictive. During opiate withdrawal, people can't sleep, can't digest food properly, etc. You never get such withdrawals from amphetamine use. The craving, from my experience, is purely psychological.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
vandago



Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,917
Loc: .
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#23704016 - 10/03/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Your opinion is invalid.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23704050 - 10/03/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yes opiates cause physical dependence and withdrawal in a way meth doesn't. However dependence and withdrawal are one aspect of addiction while compulsion/ reinforcement are another.
Withdrawal makes it harder to quit once addicted . Compulsion/ reinforcement make it easier and faster to become addicted when you start using the drug.
Withdrawal makes you suffer when you try to quit. Reinforcement makes you crave the next dose compulsively.
It is the craving to redose that makes meth uniquely addictive even in the absence of opiate type physical withdrawal .
Here is a collection of sources about the uniquely compulsive / addicting nature of meth :
"Methamphetamine increases the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine, leading to high levels of that chemical in the brain. Dopamine is involved in reward, motivation, the experience of pleasure, and motor function. Methamphetamine’s ability to release dopamine rapidly in reward regions of the brain produces the euphoric “rush” or “flash” that many users experience. Repeated methamphetamine use can easily lead to addiction—a chronic, relapsing disease characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use."
Here’s how meth users become addicted:
Dopamine affects the brain’s limbic system, the parts responsible for emotion, learning and memory. The first few times a meth user gets high, it’s a conscious choice. The decision to take meth is made in the brain’s prefrontal cortex, which handles voluntary actions.
By the third use or so, research shows, the decision to take meth moves to an entirely different part of the brain, the hind brain, which controls involuntary functions, such as breathing.
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html#storylink=cpy
“We often see people who’ve become addicted after one or two uses,” says Jim Peck, a clinical psychologist and researcher at UCLA’s Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior, who has worked for years with meth addicts. “It’s that powerful"
“Meth actually changes your brain,” Peck says. “The brain elevates your need for the drug to the same level as anything else you have to do to survive, like breathing. It starts sending signals saying, ‘You have got to get more of that stuff right now.’”
After a meth user permanently quits the drug, it can take as long as two years for his brain to go back to the way it was before.
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html#storylink=cpy http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html
"Dr. Nora Volkow, the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, says that the way a brain becomes addicted to a drug is related to how a drug increases levels of the naturally-occurring neurotransmitter dopamine, which modulates the brain's ability to perceive reward reinforcement. The pleasure sensation that the brain gets when dopamine levels are elevated creates the motivation for us to proactively perform actions that are indispensable to our survival (like eating or procreation). Dopamine is what conditions us to do the things we need to do. Using addictive drugs floods the limbic brain with dopamine—taking it up to as much as five or 10 times the normal level. With these levels elevated, the user's brain begins to associate the drug with an outsize neurochemical reward. Over time, by artificially raising the amount of dopamine our brains think is "normal," the drugs create a need that only they can meet.
"If a drug produces increases in dopamine in these limbic areas of the brain, then your brain is going to understand that signal as something that is very reinforcing, and will learn it very rapidly," says Volkow. "And so that the next time you get exposed to that stimuli, your brain already has learned that that's reinforcing, and you immediately—what we call a type of memory that's conditioning—will desire that particular drug." Over time, the consistently high levels of dopamine create plastic changes to the brain, desensitizing neurons so that they are less affected by it, and decreasing the number of receptors. That leads to the process of addiction, wherein a person loses control and is left with an intense drive to compulsively take the drug."
http://bigthink.com/going-mental/your-brain-on-drugs-dopamine-and-addiction
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 03:24 PM)
|
SleepyE
DMT is metaphysical



Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 8,759
Loc: Ontario, Canada,
Last seen: 8 hours, 23 minutes
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23704053 - 10/03/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
over 3 years my mom made me flush over 2.6g of 3-meo-pcp
-------------------- My Drawingzz Draw DMT!
   Trip Report: SHROOMS DMT---- My Youtube Psychedelic Channel
Edited by SleepyE (10/03/16 03:27 PM)
|
Mush 4 Brains
about tree fiddy


Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 8,298
Loc: Tacos
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23704055 - 10/03/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
vandago said: Your opinion is invalid.
Ha ha
Stims suck overall imo. I had no regerts throwing meth away. Pretty sure i threw away some jwh before, which i also do not regert.
Only stim worth a shit is caffeine. I think moonshoe hit the nail on the head with his description of a coke comedown. The self loathing and all. Stims make me feel scummy as hell
|
WeAreMushroom
Ask Me About Bigfoot



Registered: 11/10/14
Posts: 1,405
Loc: Frying Like An Eagle
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23704242 - 10/03/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Threw out 12 grams of DMT I extracted because I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife, and the police were all over the apartment, I didn't want them to find my DMT, so I flushed it. 
Also thre out some meth that was sold to me as MDMA, also threw out some methylone that was sold to me as MDMA. Threw out some 120x salvia because I did it twice and had the most horrific experience ever.
Threw out like .5mg suboxone cause that stuff was bad for me and I don't do opiates enough to do that opiate. Threw away some meth I found in a parking lot once.
Every time my wife and I travel out of the country, we throw out the glass pipes we've been using to smoke weed there. No reason to risk taking in through TSA.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23704247 - 10/03/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
The coke comedown sucks but I have ways around it to minimize it.
I either do coke throughout the day, then take a sleeping pill at night, and sleep off the comedown or I smoke some weed and pop a xanax.
It's a dirty drug for sure, but in a good way.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23704252 - 10/03/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife
|
PatrickKn



Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23704306 - 10/03/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: Threw out 12 grams of DMT I extracted because I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife, and the police were all over the apartment, I didn't want them to find my DMT, so I flushed it. 
Threw out some 120x salvia because I did it twice and had the most horrific experience ever.
I remember that story about the dmt, the gangbangers and the stabbing. Forget which thread I read it in. Shitty you had to stab the dude (for the impression it might have left on you), but good thing you're alive.
On the 120x, had you tried any lower extractions? I honestly don't think I'd even attempt anything over 30x, and honestly 10x is about my real limit. Seeing 120x, shit's gotta be pure salvinorin A. I couldn't even imagine. Sounds like a bad time.
|
Bodhi of Ankou
*alternate opinion blocks path*


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 24,778
Loc: Soviet Canukistan
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704332 - 10/03/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Yes opiates cause physical dependence and withdrawal in a way meth doesn't. However dependence and withdrawal are one aspect of addiction while compulsion/ reinforcement are another.
Withdrawal makes it harder to quit once addicted . Compulsion/ reinforcement make it easier and faster to become addicted when you start using the drug.
Withdrawal makes you suffer when you try to quit. Reinforcement makes you crave the next dose compulsively.
It is the craving to redose that makes meth uniquely addictive even in the absence of opiate type physical withdrawal .
Here is a collection of sources about the uniquely compulsive / addicting nature of meth :
"Methamphetamine increases the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine, leading to high levels of that chemical in the brain. Dopamine is involved in reward, motivation, the experience of pleasure, and motor function. Methamphetamine’s ability to release dopamine rapidly in reward regions of the brain produces the euphoric “rush” or “flash” that many users experience. Repeated methamphetamine use can easily lead to addiction—a chronic, relapsing disease characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use."
Here’s how meth users become addicted:
Dopamine affects the brain’s limbic system, the parts responsible for emotion, learning and memory. The first few times a meth user gets high, it’s a conscious choice. The decision to take meth is made in the brain’s prefrontal cortex, which handles voluntary actions.
By the third use or so, research shows, the decision to take meth moves to an entirely different part of the brain, the hind brain, which controls involuntary functions, such as breathing.
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html#storylink=cpy
“We often see people who’ve become addicted after one or two uses,” says Jim Peck, a clinical psychologist and researcher at UCLA’s Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior, who has worked for years with meth addicts. “It’s that powerful"
“Meth actually changes your brain,” Peck says. “The brain elevates your need for the drug to the same level as anything else you have to do to survive, like breathing. It starts sending signals saying, ‘You have got to get more of that stuff right now.’”
After a meth user permanently quits the drug, it can take as long as two years for his brain to go back to the way it was before.
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html#storylink=cpy http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article3239864.html
"Dr. Nora Volkow, the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, says that the way a brain becomes addicted to a drug is related to how a drug increases levels of the naturally-occurring neurotransmitter dopamine, which modulates the brain's ability to perceive reward reinforcement. The pleasure sensation that the brain gets when dopamine levels are elevated creates the motivation for us to proactively perform actions that are indispensable to our survival (like eating or procreation). Dopamine is what conditions us to do the things we need to do. Using addictive drugs floods the limbic brain with dopamine—taking it up to as much as five or 10 times the normal level. With these levels elevated, the user's brain begins to associate the drug with an outsize neurochemical reward. Over time, by artificially raising the amount of dopamine our brains think is "normal," the drugs create a need that only they can meet.
"If a drug produces increases in dopamine in these limbic areas of the brain, then your brain is going to understand that signal as something that is very reinforcing, and will learn it very rapidly," says Volkow. "And so that the next time you get exposed to that stimuli, your brain already has learned that that's reinforcing, and you immediately—what we call a type of memory that's conditioning—will desire that particular drug." Over time, the consistently high levels of dopamine create plastic changes to the brain, desensitizing neurons so that they are less affected by it, and decreasing the number of receptors. That leads to the process of addiction, wherein a person loses control and is left with an intense drive to compulsively take the drug."
http://bigthink.com/going-mental/your-brain-on-drugs-dopamine-and-addiction
I used to dabble in this shit. I could consciously feel my dopamine stores being depleted with every rip. Typically after half a gram I was totally wiped and smoking more wouldnt trigger anything, most realized this. the ones that didnt got hooked. Education is key.
|
Starstepper
AI Brobot



Registered: 05/08/16
Posts: 2,935
Loc: The blip on the radar
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23704369 - 10/03/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said:
Quote:
Starstepper said: Almost every time I'm in Vegas I have to flush some blow and mdma capsules as I'm leaving for the airport. My group orders too much and if I finished it all I'd probably od.
so u dont just throw it out in a garbage or give it to someone?
I'm not going to leave it in the hotel room and I'm definitely not going out of my way to offer it to strangers.
|
Sheekle
FREE BURKE



Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53,153
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Starstepper]
#23704428 - 10/03/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
u can throw it away in a diff trash can outside of ur hotel toom
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
|
PatrickKn



Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704442 - 10/03/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Yeah most users think "i have used cocaine many times and i am fine" not realizing that they have scarring on their heart that they cant feel.
Even when having a heart attack you might feel nothing more than a short period of nausea , dizziness and sweating, and often not even that.
Many chronic cocaine users will die of heart problems in middle age caused by cocaine use in their teens or twenties.
Cocaine severley damaged my entire social circle. Its pretty breathtaking how much suffering and harm it caused my generation.
Recently had the first cocaine death in my social circle. A friend lost his girlfriend.
She was 30.
Yeah, scary stuff. I haven't used any in about 2 years, and don't plan on doing so. Sucks if I did some real permanent damage to my heart when I was abusing it.
|
WeAreMushroom
Ask Me About Bigfoot



Registered: 11/10/14
Posts: 1,405
Loc: Frying Like An Eagle
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: PatrickKn]
#23704446 - 10/03/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife

Quote:
PatrickKn said:
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: Threw out 12 grams of DMT I extracted because I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife, and the police were all over the apartment, I didn't want them to find my DMT, so I flushed it. 
Threw out some 120x salvia because I did it twice and had the most horrific experience ever.
I remember that story about the dmt, the gangbangers and the stabbing. Forget which thread I read it in. Shitty you had to stab the dude (for the impression it might have left on you), but good thing you're alive.
On the 120x, had you tried any lower extractions? I honestly don't think I'd even attempt anything over 30x, and honestly 10x is about my real limit. Seeing 120x, shit's gotta be pure salvinorin A. I couldn't even imagine. Sounds like a bad time. 
Yeah it was really stupid. They were people I knew from work and they knew I was making it and stuff. I tried to show them how to smoke it and told them over and over not to burn it, when they burned it by trying to smoke it without buying something special to smoke it with, instead of asking for a refund, they concluded a I was trying to rip them off and hit me up for more.
When they showed up for more, as soon as I turned my back and pulled out the scale to weigh out more, a hand came from behind me and started choking the shit out of me. One guy held me while the over guy punched me over and over in my face and stomach. I tried to kick him cause my legs were free and kicked a hole in my wall by accident. The third guy ran into my bedroom and stole my oil rig and vector torch that I had used to get the both of us high with a couple times.
Fortunately they tried to kill me in my kitchen or I might be dead right now. I struggled and started to see black spots as I was starved for air. I reached behind me and yanked out my silverware drawer, and used my body weight to pull the both of us to the ground. The guy was still squeezing me neck so hard I thought his fingers were gonna go through it. So I picked up a steak knife off the floor and jammed it behind me. It sunk into his mid-shoulder/neck area and he started screaming and let go of me. He pulled himself backwards off the knife and started spurting blood all over himself, me, and my kitchen floor.
I was basically in shock at this point, and the guy I stabbed and his two buddies booked it out my front door, trailing blood all over the place. I was shaking like crazy, and had the best adrenaline rush of my life.
It felt like MDMA times a million. The feeling of surviving what I thought was going to be my death was the best drug of all. I called the police as soon as the fog from getting punched repeatedly in the head cleared.
The guys who robbed me ended up doing like five years for robbery and assault. The friend I stabbed I never found out about, I didn't really want to stick around and moved out of state as soon as I could so I don't know if I killed him or not. Shit messed me up for a while. I still have some trauma from it but I try to put it behind me. 
On salvia, I have not tried lower extractions of salvia, but I'd be really interested in growing a plant and trying it the natural way. I feel like intense extracts aren't the way the plant was intended to be consumed, probably.
|
DustyBottoms



Registered: 11/07/14
Posts: 3,071
Loc: TheUnderbelly
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23704466 - 10/03/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I throw out blow on occasion. It only happens when I know I've had enough (often times way too much) and its time to call it a night. I don't really have an off switch with blow like I do with pretty much every other drug, so the only way to stop for that given evening is to flush it down the toilet.
I'm not sure how many times I've done this, but I have NEVER regretted it though. The only regret I have is that I ever touched that filthy shit to begin with.
--------------------
|
Starstepper
AI Brobot



Registered: 05/08/16
Posts: 2,935
Loc: The blip on the radar
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23704559 - 10/03/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: u can throw it away in a diff trash can outside of ur hotel toom
Nah. Casinos in Vegas are super strict about drugs these days and there are cameras everywhere. There is not enough left over to risk it.
|
Sky Walker
Vulture of Culture



Registered: 02/11/12
Posts: 605
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23704566 - 10/03/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
What Dusty said pretty much sums it up for me and I'm sure many others as well.
|
Canadian Jesus
I'll Be Back. I'm Back.



Registered: 07/10/16
Posts: 4,447
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 7 months, 20 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Sheekle]
#23704674 - 10/03/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've never thrown out good drugs. One time I returned 2/3ds of a bottle of T3s to the pharmacy because I didn't really need them after my eye surgery.
On the other hand when I was a teenager my mom flushed a quarter pound of good weed that she found in my room. Such a terrible waste. Makes me sad to this day.
-------------------- What's the crime if I snort a line, smoke, toke shoot it up all at the same time?
SunnyD said: Definitely have more respect for sheekle than I do for unjust laws
|
Kenetic
Nam Sayin



Registered: 08/24/14
Posts: 4,389
Loc: I don't believe in land
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Canadian Jesus]
#23704776 - 10/03/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
threw a half ounce of weed in an alley right after I bought it cause a someone pulled down the alley. Some homeless dude found it apparently cause I never did
-------------------- Todo Cambia    DMT said: Everyone know's me, they just don't know it yet
|
ak47myth
Stranger


Registered: 08/04/11
Posts: 1,306
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23704785 - 10/03/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: Threw out 12 grams of DMT I extracted because I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife, and the police were all over the apartment, I didn't want them to find my DMT, so I flushed it. 
Also thre out some meth that was sold to me as MDMA, also threw out some methylone that was sold to me as MDMA. Threw out some 120x salvia because I did it twice and had the most horrific experience ever.
Threw out like .5mg suboxone cause that stuff was bad for me and I don't do opiates enough to do that opiate. Threw away some meth I found in a parking lot once.
Every time my wife and I travel out of the country, we throw out the glass pipes we've been using to smoke weed there. No reason to risk taking in through TSA.
Damn, thats wild. And 12 grams of dmt is a ton.
Salvia is the worst shit ever. Ive also had enough horrific experiences with it to never want to try it again.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: ak47myth]
#23704839 - 10/03/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Salvia is dope.
They banned it here in Canada 2 years ago and the other day I saw some still being sold in a sketchy convenient store.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
The Cheshire Cat
Tea For Everyone!



Registered: 06/05/16
Posts: 261
Loc: United States
Last seen: 6 years, 15 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23704929 - 10/03/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Meth and adderall similar? Nah meth is definitely more neurotoxic than normal amps.
However the neurotoxicity of D-methamphetamine is mainly associated with the increased chance of Parkinson's Disease compared to normal amphetamines. D-methamphetamine also has a higher affinity to TAAR1.
Some synthetic cathinones and other synthetic stimulants make D-methamphetamine's neurotoxicity look weak in comparison.
--------------------
 
"It's Hip to be square" -Huey Lewis "All war is based on deception" -Sun Tzu
|
Bjorn_Stormcrow
The Farfarer.



Registered: 09/27/12
Posts: 2,572
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Last seen: 1 month, 1 day
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
#23704942 - 10/03/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
threw out a bunch of coke I found when cleaning my room because I had decided months previously to get off the stuff. had the ocassional moment of "regret" when I was at low points or just really wanting to get fucked up. but the moment passes and so does any feelings of regret over it.
-------------------- Live Mythically
|
The Cheshire Cat
Tea For Everyone!



Registered: 06/05/16
Posts: 261
Loc: United States
Last seen: 6 years, 15 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23704950 - 10/03/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I threw away some YOPO seeds because i had a bad trip (mainly puking like crazy) on them. I don't regret throwing them away, they sucked.
--------------------
 
"It's Hip to be square" -Huey Lewis "All war is based on deception" -Sun Tzu
|
WeAreMushroom
Ask Me About Bigfoot



Registered: 11/10/14
Posts: 1,405
Loc: Frying Like An Eagle
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: ak47myth]
#23704964 - 10/03/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ak47myth said:
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said: Threw out 12 grams of DMT I extracted because I had three gangbangers break into my apartment and try to strangle me over a gram of DMT they burned up cause they didn't smoke it right. I stabbed one of them with a knife, and the police were all over the apartment, I didn't want them to find my DMT, so I flushed it. 
Also thre out some meth that was sold to me as MDMA, also threw out some methylone that was sold to me as MDMA. Threw out some 120x salvia because I did it twice and had the most horrific experience ever.
Threw out like .5mg suboxone cause that stuff was bad for me and I don't do opiates enough to do that opiate. Threw away some meth I found in a parking lot once.
Every time my wife and I travel out of the country, we throw out the glass pipes we've been using to smoke weed there. No reason to risk taking in through TSA.
Damn, thats wild. And 12 grams of dmt is a ton.
Salvia is the worst shit ever. Ive also had enough horrific experiences with it to never want to try it again.
12 grams of DMT isn't that much. If you extract a kilo of bark the right way you have around 40g.
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,568
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704968 - 10/03/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: No I have never done meth. However it is absolutely beyond dispute that meth is one of the most addictive of all drugs and the most immediately reinforcing / compulsive of all Drugs due to its unparalleled increase of dopamine levels in the brain.
Dopamine is the brain's reward system neurotransmitter and is directly associated with reinforcement of behavior.
When something causes Dopamine release the Dopamine creates the desire to repeat that activity.
Meth raises Dopamine levels more than any other drug and correspondingly reinforces the desire to repeatedly take the drug.
When you say meth isn't very addictive you are spreading harmful and extremely inaccurate misinformation.
Meth is incredibly, extremely, uniquely addictive and this is scientifically indisputable.
Meth use physically rewires the brain and repeated use changes the physical structure of the brain in a way that causes compulsive binging.
Meth addicts have a very low rate of successfully quitting for the same reason.
Chronic meth use hijacks the brain's reward system and makes the addict feel and act as if meth is necessary for survival like food or water.
The Dopamine release of meth and its effect on the nucleus accumbens rapidly hijacks the brain's decision making process so that meth is perceived as a physical NEED to the extent that an addicted rat will self administer meth in preference of food until it dies of starvation.
This is why meth addicts pursue meth to the exclusion of all else and often end up losing absolutely everything to the addiction- their brain literally tells them they need meth more than food, more than love, more than sex, more than their own children.
This is just not true. This is classic anti-drug propaganda stuff. Meth is just a stimulant cousin of adderall just like 4FA. It's nothing special or unusual as stimulants go. It's long lasting, that's about it's only special feature. It is not significantly more addictive than any other stimulant, and stimulants in general are not particularly addictive.
You've been listening to too much anti-drug propaganda. As I said before, meth is regularly prescribed under the brand name desoxyn to both children and the elderly. I know someone who has a prescription to it. It's effects are virtually identical to adderall.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23704977 - 10/03/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|

Meth is good for your health. For instance, if you smoke it regularly, you are far less likely to become obese.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,568
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23704979 - 10/03/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
See, that right there is literally a piece of anti-drug propaganda from an anti-drug website. If you listen to that, you're no better than the people who listened to and believed refer madness.
And yes, people have used stimulants of all kinds as appetite suppressants since the 50s.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23704986 - 10/03/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Nah, I posted that as a joke, I agree with you. The dangers of meth are over-exaggerated. I've tried meth once (snorted) and taken adderal a million times and there really isn't that much of a difference between the two.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23704991 - 10/03/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I cry a little every time I flush my toilet.
|
trees


Registered: 02/08/09
Posts: 9,194
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23705042 - 10/03/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Threw away a massive tub of live shrooms that had just sporulated all over the fucking tub, it was so black and the caps were curled upwards and i was so over shrooms mentaly. So I tossed the whole tub in a dumpster.
--------------------
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: trees]
#23705053 - 10/03/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Reading this thread makes me sad.
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23705084 - 10/03/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah this thread is unshroomy
Edited by BANANA.MAN (10/03/16 09:33 PM)
|
Mush 4 Brains
about tree fiddy


Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 8,298
Loc: Tacos
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23705099 - 10/03/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DustyBottoms said: I throw out blow on occasion. It only happens when I know I've had enough (often times way too much) and its time to call it a night. I don't really have an off switch with blow like I do with pretty much every other drug, so the only way to stop for that given evening is to flush it down the toilet.
I'm not sure how many times I've done this, but I have NEVER regretted it though. The only regret I have is that I ever touched that filthy shit to begin with.
Yeah i feel the same way. Never after a night of doing cocaine did i say to myself,"boy i wish i did/had more cocaine."
I actually read this quote here from some unknown poster, but its one of my favorite.- "Doing cocaine is like winning the lottery but then losing the ticket."
Last time i bought some blow i gave away the last 1/4 of what i had.
|
Myco_illogic
Evil Emperor Zurg


Registered: 02/16/16
Posts: 83
Last seen: 6 years, 6 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23705797 - 10/04/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've had my time with herb. Whenever I have some I smoke it till it's gone and say I'm gonna break for awhile. But I guess once a stoner always a stoner cuz I keep buying more lol. But I have kratom on the way so that should help me relax in the evenings without throwing off my mental focus. I love kratom
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23705862 - 10/04/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
WeAreMushroom said:
That's an interesting story, hopefully the guy didn't make it. It was wise of you to leave the state.
People resorting to violence over trivial amounts of DMT, lawd have mercy
|
CookieCrumbs
Fucked off to the pub


Registered: 12/10/11
Posts: 14,146
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23705944 - 10/04/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've been holding on to some rocket tabs for like 5 years cuz I'm afraid when I throw them out I'm gonna want them. It's like that one sock you have sitting around that you have sitting in thhe bottom of the laundry basket and you don't want to get rid of it because you know the moment you do you'll find the other one.
--------------------
Free time is the only time
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman] 2
#23705980 - 10/04/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
So your position is actually that meth is not addictive?
That's just astonishingly, mind blowing ignorant and naieve.
Some people sincerely believe the world is flat, and I consider that an approximately equally valid opinion to saying meth isn't very addictive.
I have done extensive research on meth (very extensive) and it truly saddens me that someone could be so ignorant and spread such deadly harmful misinformation.
There are numerous members on the shroomery who have experienced meth addiction and destroyed their lives and saying meth is not addictive is like saying cigarettes are not carcinogenic.
The relationship between dopamine release and addiction is a scientific consensus and trying to dismiss it as propaganda is as dangerous and ignorant as trying to call climate change and evolution just propaganda.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 08:15 AM)
|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23705983 - 10/04/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
meff is good fer yu.
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23706105 - 10/04/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
lol dude thinks shake n bake with battery acid and shit is good for him..
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706119 - 10/04/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
To be fair he said meth. Not meth with synthesis impurities in it. Any left over ingredients are not acctual meth
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706121 - 10/04/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Lithium Strip- from inside a AA battery is what they use in meth dude..
along with
Sudafed Cold pack- The bags that you put in your lunchbox or on a swollen part of your body. Not the gel pack. Beads only, crushed Muriatic Acid Lighter Fluid lye
...yeah ...no thanks..and not to mention the numbskulls making it have shit for brains..
|
majicman30
naturejunkie



Registered: 09/22/14
Posts: 749
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23706123 - 10/04/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bigfeely123 said: A while back I destroyed (light on fire) 1/4 lb of plain salvia leaf, a 1/4 oz of salvia extracts ranging from 5-50x, 25mg of 4-aco-dmt, and a few ounces or so of kratom. I did this a few days after a mushroom trip because I thought that tripping on salvia was too much for my mind to take anymore. I sort of regret it/sort of don't.
-What drugs have you destroyed? (include amount) -Did you or did you not regret doing it afterwards? -What was your reasoning for doing so?
I wanna hear what drugs you folks have laid to rest.
Yes the Devine has made me throw away lotts before & I regret none of the occasions! Yes it's True. Peace & Love
-------------------- [ /url ]    [url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/16-12/893004217-IMG_4581.
|
Lucis
Nutritional Yeast

Registered: 03/28/15
Posts: 15,622
Last seen: 1 month, 30 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706135 - 10/04/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: So your position is actually that meth is not addictive?
That's just astonishingly, mind blowing ignorant and naieve.
Meth is not addicting to myself, my ex was super addicted to it. I would binge on it for a while, then stop, then when I quit using it for good I never thought about it, my ex had to go to rehab for it, which seemed so strange to me, but I understand we're all different.
Some people just don't have a hard time with amphetamines, some people get destroyed by them.
-------------------- ©️
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Lucis]
#23706285 - 10/04/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah but pure meth has none of those things in it. Those are all impurities. The guy said meth is good for you not the inpurities
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23706298 - 10/04/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I doubt most street meth is anywhere near pure
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706300 - 10/04/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
He didnt say street meth. He didnt say impure/adulterated meth. He didnt say meth containing other chemicals. He said meth. That was my point.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (10/04/16 10:20 AM)
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706303 - 10/04/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
that's pretty much the only drug that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast..meet a girl at a hospital that weighed like 70 pounds rotten out teeth and swollen shut eyes and her butt the size of a 2 year old..was a scary sight on acid
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706317 - 10/04/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hellno said: that's pretty much the only drug that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast..meet a girl at a hospital that weighed like 70 pounds rotten out teeth and swollen shut eyes and her butt the size of a 2 year old..was a scary sight on acid
it's just propaganda.
I'm not saying meth is safe but the only reason you think meth and coke are so different is because coke is always portrayed as an elegant, posh drug while meth is portrayed as a street junkie drug,
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706352 - 10/04/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hellno said: Lithium Strip- from inside a AA battery is what they use in meth dude..
along with
Sudafed Cold pack- The bags that you put in your lunchbox or on a swollen part of your body. Not the gel pack. Beads only, crushed Muriatic Acid Lighter Fluid lye
...yeah ...no thanks..and not to mention the numbskulls making it have shit for brains..
Just because you can use that shit to make it doesn't mean it has to be made using said items. There is such a thing called chemistry where you extract compounds and purify them to make other stuff with pure chemicals. While I'm not saying meth is not addictive or safe, people can get addicted to anything (religion, running, not sure if these are real but "my strange addictions, etc.). Blaming meth for ruining their lives (it might have) is like saying all lung cancer is due to cigarettes.
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706358 - 10/04/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'm saying that alot of the meth out there that people are using is made with that stuff..those ingredients are what a typical dumbass "meth-cook" is using..
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706360 - 10/04/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ceiling Cat said:
Quote:
hellno said: Lithium Strip- from inside a AA battery is what they use in meth dude..
along with
Sudafed Cold pack- The bags that you put in your lunchbox or on a swollen part of your body. Not the gel pack. Beads only, crushed Muriatic Acid Lighter Fluid lye
...yeah ...no thanks..and not to mention the numbskulls making it have shit for brains..
Just because you can use that shit to make it doesn't mean it has to be made using said items. There is such a thing called chemistry where you extract compounds and purify them to make other stuff with pure chemicals. While I'm not saying meth is not addictive or safe, people can get addicted to anything (religion, running, not sure if these are real but "my strange addictions, etc.). Blaming meth for ruining their lives (it might have) is like saying all lung cancer is due to cigarettes.
lls this part was stupid
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706362 - 10/04/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah also those are typically used if you start from ephedrin/psuedoephedrine. But those arent available in large ammounts so you couldnt produce meth on a very large scale with that method. Another way is starting from phenylacentone(P2P) and methylamine/methanamine.
But saying that meth has those things in it is like saying dmt has root bark in it. Or psilocin has fungus in it.
|
ModestMouse
IM WALKIN ON SUNSHINE


Registered: 05/06/13
Posts: 19,227
Loc: Upstate
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706363 - 10/04/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've thrown away regret and done drugs aftetwards
-------------------- Anyone got a lowpass filter in this biiiiash?
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706365 - 10/04/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
therefore meth is good for you kids
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706368 - 10/04/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I personally think it's really cool and even beautiful and poetic in a way that you can combine all these raw, harsh chemicals, like battery acid and phosphorus from matches, and end up with something as wonderful and enjoyable as meth.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex]
#23706390 - 10/04/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
if someone wants to use meth why not just stick to vyvanse or adderall
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706423 - 10/04/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Because neither of those are meth. Amphetamine has different properties than methamphetamine. They are not the same.
If you dont beleive me that one methyl group on the nitrogen matters. Would you rather have a gram of DMT or a gram of NMT. I bet nobody said nmt
Edited by BANANA.MAN (10/04/16 11:20 AM)
|
Love_spirit
Circle Of Power



Registered: 07/18/15
Posts: 1,208
Last seen: 7 months, 27 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23706436 - 10/04/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Seems like a mental thing to do when you could always share with a friend.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23706452 - 10/04/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
BANANA.MAN said: Because neither of thise are meth. Amphetamine had different properties than methamphetamine. They are not the same.
If you dont beleive me that one methylgroup on the nitrogen matters. Would tou rather habe a gram of DMT or a gram of NMT. I bet nobody said nmt
I've snorted meth and it did feel better than swallowing adderal pills, but the high from large doses of adderal/vyvanse is still good enough for me to not want to do meth again.
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23706468 - 10/04/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hellno said: that's pretty much the only drug that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast..meet a girl at a hospital that weighed like 70 pounds rotten out teeth and swollen shut eyes and her butt the size of a 2 year old..was a scary sight on acid
Meth... the only drug bad for you? Dude even weed is not good for you.
|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Love_spirit]
#23706469 - 10/04/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't share drugs with anyone. If they want to do drugs then that's on their own. They can find the drug themselves, do it themselves, and pay whatever consequences themselves because of their own actions. I don't need the responsibility of any of it.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23706563 - 10/04/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bigfeely123 said:
Quote:
hellno said: that's pretty much the only drug that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast..meet a girl at a hospital that weighed like 70 pounds rotten out teeth and swollen shut eyes and her butt the size of a 2 year old..was a scary sight on acid
Meth... the only drug bad for you? Dude even weed is not good for you.
If weed is vaporized or eaten it is extremely healthy for you.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Mush 4 Brains
about tree fiddy


Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 8,298
Loc: Tacos
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706580 - 10/04/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Its not extremely healthy for you, its just not terribly unhealthy for you.
I find your obsession of meth very peculiar. What made you want to be the authority on meth?
|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706634 - 10/04/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Even if you were talking solely on your physical health I find that difficult to believe.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23706672 - 10/04/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I am not an authority on meth, I do however know what experts (doctors, scientists, addictions workers, addicts and their families) say about meth and share that knowledge when relevant , in hopes of preventing more people from ruining their lives by starting to use it, perhaps as a result of ridiculous misinformation to the effect that it is not addictive.
I would do the same thing to try and correct someone who was under the illusion that sugar does not cause diabetes, that tobacco doesn't cause cancer, or that cocaine doesn't cause heart attacks.
The reason for drug education is harm reduction, and the motivation for harm reduction is compassion.
The truth is also it's own reward.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 12:33 PM)
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123] 1
#23706690 - 10/04/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bigfeely123 said: Even if you were talking solely on your physical health I find that difficult to believe.
Many things are difficult to believe if you haven't familiarized yourself with the relevant evidence.
Ingesting cannabis is indeed extremely beneficial for your physical health, being a potent anti-inflammatory, neuroprotective and anti-carcinogenic.
It is similar in health benefits to curcumin, which is also extremely healthy.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
trvptamine
P-Mx$$



Registered: 07/06/15
Posts: 4,859
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706724 - 10/04/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think Ive ever thrown away drugs. But I've broken so many glass pipes for residue.
A friend of mine threw away 4 hits of some good LSD earlier this year and I was pretty pissed about that.
2 years ago one of my best friends overdosed on 25i-nbome tabs and my other friend who sold them to him and had been ordering bulk sheets off of the darkweb washed all his blotter in a swimming pool then threw them away cause he was tripping and my friend dying scared him so much. He went out to the lake and cut his arm really deep vertically then tried to drown himself because he thought his life was over. Talk about a bad trip. The friend who ODd was later revived in the hospital and hes still alive today.
--------------------
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: trvptamine]
#23706742 - 10/04/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
He washed the nbome in a pool AND threw it away?
I hope some poor kid didn't go swimming in that pool a minute later.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 12:46 PM)
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706759 - 10/04/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
And the experts on meth are the authorities on what people can and can't do with their own lives? Maybe if you didn't try and convince people it's so bad, wrong, and what they should and shouldn't do they wouldn't have tried it to begin with. Let people experiment on their own, inform and educate them, but don't try and influence their decisions based on what you think is right or wrong.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706768 - 10/04/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I never said anything about meth use being morally bad or wrong.
I said meth use is addictive and harmful, which is a fact.
If people choose to do meth knowing that it is addictive and harmful that is their right.
The problem is spreading misinformarion that it is not addictive, perhaps leading people to get into it without an accurate understanding of the risks and consequences.
You should ask yourself how You read me quoting scientists about how meth is addictive due to its dopamine effects and came up with me saying it is morally wrong, which I never said.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 12:53 PM)
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706776 - 10/04/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: I am not an authority on meth, I do however know what experts (doctors, scientists, addictions workers, addicts and their families) say about meth and share that knowledge when relevant , in hopes of preventing more people from ruining their lives by starting to use it,
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706837 - 10/04/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Saying that something can ruin your life is not the same as saying It is morally wrong.
If you eat too much sugar you will get diabetes and become obese and that may well ruin your life.
If you start smoking you may well get cancer and ruin your life.
If you run headfirst into walls every day you may get brain damage and ruin your life.
Warning you about the risks and consequences of these actions is not the same as saying those actions are morally wrong .
Harmful does not mean the same thing are ethically bad.
Advising someone not to do something because it will harm them is not the same as telling them not to do it because it unethical or "wrong".
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 01:18 PM)
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706850 - 10/04/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Then when someone asks about anything, part of your response should be, "it can harm you". Saying that meth will ruin your life (or sugar will give you diabetes) is a blatant lie; as there are plenty of people who have done meth, and not "ruined their lives by starting to use it".
Edited by Ceiling Cat (10/04/16 01:24 PM)
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706863 - 10/04/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Many people do ruin their lives as a result of choosing to try meth.
Not all, but many.
What I said was that the reason I warn people that meth is harmful and addictive is in hopes of preventing even a single person from having that happen to them.
Not everyone who smokes tobacco will die from cancer.
However many will.
Therefore it makes sense to warn people about this risk in hopes of preventing even one person from dying unnecessarily from a smoking related cancer.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 01:29 PM)
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706914 - 10/04/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Everyone should know the dangers of oxygen, when your body metabolizes oxygen molecules, free radical oxygen ions may be generated. I'm just sharing this information in hopes of preventing even one person from dying unnecessarily from an oxygen related cancer. Buy your hemoglobin pre oxygenated and transfuse yourself.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat] 1
#23706930 - 10/04/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ceiling Cat said:
as there are plenty of people who have done meth, and not "ruined their lives by starting to use it"
Quote:
Ceiling Cat said: Everyone should know the dangers of oxygen, when your body metabolizes oxygen molecules, free radical oxygen ions may be generated. I'm just sharing this information in hopes of preventing even one person from dying unnecessarily from an oxygen related cancer. Buy your hemoglobin pre oxygenated and transfuse yourself.
Most people who I know have done meth, took the junkie ride.
Arguing that we should all just ignore the potential dangers of a substance which has been involved in so much junkie-behavior, is irresponsible.
How many people have you known to spend thousands of dollars in a day on oxygen?
|
trvptamine
P-Mx$$



Registered: 07/06/15
Posts: 4,859
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706938 - 10/04/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: He washed the nbome in a pool AND threw it away?
I hope some poor kid didn't go swimming in that pool a minute later.
There was definitely nobody swimming in that pool afterwards because everyone there was flipping out on nbome after just seeing their friend seize the fuck out
--------------------
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706942 - 10/04/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
So your position is that using meth is of a level of safety comparable With breathing ?
Or that advising people that meth is addictive and harmful is somehow unreasonable?
Given that these statements are patently absurd, I am inferring that you are yourself a meth user who feels defensive about the idea that your decision to use meth may ruin your life ?
Am I wrong in this inference?
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 01:54 PM)
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23706956 - 10/04/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'm not saying ignore the potential dangers, but when you tell people it will ruin their life it becomes a biased judgement that influences their decision; which is not how you go about "informing and educating", it is only providing one side of the arguement. Because someone's life is ruined + they use meth, does not equal "they ruined their life because of meth".
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat] 1
#23706967 - 10/04/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I did not say meth use would ruin everyone's life. What I said was my motivation for sharing education about meth's addictive nature was to help prevent people from potentially ruining their lives , which is both reasonable and true.
It's no different than why I would educate people about the risks of cancer from smoking tobacco.
Not because everyone who smokes will get cancer but because enough smokers will get cancer that sharing that education is the responsible, compassionate and reasonable thing to do.
I'll ask again- is the reason you are being obtuse about this not because you are yourself a meth user , who is defensive about your life choice?
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 02:05 PM)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23706978 - 10/04/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Though I would never consider trying meth, there may be more to the picture.
Many people are prescribed opiates following surgery (etc) without falling into addictive behavior, perhaps the one's who do were inclined towards addiction in the first place, using drugs to fill a hole in their life. How many people here haven't done that to some degree 
In any case, the fuckery surrounding meth merits extreme caution in my opinion
|
ModestMouse
IM WALKIN ON SUNSHINE


Registered: 05/06/13
Posts: 19,227
Loc: Upstate
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23706988 - 10/04/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
lol it's the shroomery any prolific poster here has used drugs to excess
-------------------- Anyone got a lowpass filter in this biiiiash?
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23706994 - 10/04/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah but I vape it so it's actually extremely healthy for me.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23706995 - 10/04/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Well, an enormous number of people who start out with prescription opiate painkillers end up addicted to heroine, and doctor prescribed opiates are the primary cause of America's current opiate addiction epidemic, so I'm not sure that example really demonstrates what you are implying it does.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707001 - 10/04/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ceiling Cat said: Yeah but I vape it so it's actually extremely healthy for me.
So jokes aside, you are a meth user?
Would you consider yourself an addict?
How often do you use and how long ago did you first start ?
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707033 - 10/04/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Current opium epidemic in America and you're in iceland?
And jokes aside though I am not a meth user, nor do I plan on using it (I've seen what it can do to SOME people). I just think if you're intentions should be to inform and educate you don't do so in a biased manner.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: ModestMouse]
#23707066 - 10/04/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Well, an enormous number of people who start out with prescription opiate painkillers end up addicted to heroine, and doctor prescribed opiates are the primary cause of America's current opiate addiction epidemic, so I'm not sure that example really demonstrates what you are implying it does.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707106 - 10/04/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Honestly the education about meth I did in this thread was not particularly biased.
I simply said meth is one of the most addictive and compulsive drugs because of its uniquely potent dopamine action and quoted expert sources to this effect , then explained that my motivation for sharing that information was a compassionate desire to help people understand the potential risks and consequences of the choice to use that drug.
It would be difficult to be less biased while conveying the relevant information.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707115 - 10/04/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ceiling Cat said: Current opium epidemic in America and you're in iceland?
.
I don't understand this question. There is a huge opiate epidemic in America. I am currently located in Canada.
What is the question?
My location doesn't effect the social problems in other countries.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707125 - 10/04/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Some people who use meth fuck up their possibly due to meth, some people who use meth fuck up their lives possibly not due to meth, and vice versa. Offering up only horror stories on how people "fucked up their lives because of meth" based on what you know is biased.
|
Ceiling Cat
Stranger
Registered: 09/28/16
Posts: 66
Last seen: 7 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707130 - 10/04/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Are you a news reporter or something moonshoe?
|
Kenetic
Nam Sayin



Registered: 08/24/14
Posts: 4,389
Loc: I don't believe in land
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707152 - 10/04/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Looking at some of his posts he could probably do it on the side to make extra money lol
Some people have a way with words. Unfortunately I'm not one of them.
-------------------- Todo Cambia    DMT said: Everyone know's me, they just don't know it yet
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Ceiling Cat]
#23707157 - 10/04/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I didn't offer any horror stories.
I am not going to keep repeating myself - you are obviously either unwilling to, or incapable of, engaging in rational, fair communication.
Based on the evidence I believe that you are not only a defensive meth user yourself but also too dishonest to admit it.
That would actually be the most understandable and forgivable reason for your behaviour here- any other explanation would warrant even less respect.
Regardless, you have demonstrated to my satisfaction that you are not worth investing any more time in enagaging with.
My personal feeling is that you should be ashamed of your conduct in this thread, and I would encourage you to reflect on what made you behave so disingenuously.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 03:01 PM)
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Kenetic]
#23707173 - 10/04/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I am an academic. I have a natural gift for writing that was developed in the process of completing three university degrees and a college certificate and authoring two theses.
Thank you for the compliment.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Kenetic
Nam Sayin



Registered: 08/24/14
Posts: 4,389
Loc: I don't believe in land
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707177 - 10/04/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thank you for your excellent posts!
-------------------- Todo Cambia    DMT said: Everyone know's me, they just don't know it yet
|
Bigfeely123
Stranger
Registered: 01/30/15 
Posts: 2,594
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Kenetic]
#23707183 - 10/04/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Do you think meth is good for you?
|
Kenetic
Nam Sayin



Registered: 08/24/14
Posts: 4,389
Loc: I don't believe in land
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23707194 - 10/04/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Personally I think meth is terrible. I used to work for a carnival and I hated when all my friends got a new connect. They'd be in a great mood for a while and suddenly they'd be begging to borrow money and then be in a shitty, unbearable mood for the next week.
Fuck meth.
-------------------- Todo Cambia    DMT said: Everyone know's me, they just don't know it yet
|
hellno
Stranger


Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 223
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Kenetic]
#23707216 - 10/04/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast.
I said so bad for you,, that you can visually see in short time.
|
Alexestalex
fallen angel


Registered: 03/20/12
Posts: 5,644
Loc: heart of the sun
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23707225 - 10/04/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hellno said: that is so bad for you..that you can visually see how unhealthy it is real fast.
I said so bad for you,, that you can visually see in short time.
do you think meth is significantly worse than coke?
--------------------
Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex] 2
#23707286 - 10/04/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Meth is more rapidly and severely addictive than coke because of its greater dopamine action and also is associated with more severe lifestyle deterioration on average (extreme weight loss, oral health deterioration, prolonged insomnia and resulting psychosis) although cocaine in Crack or intravenous form can be more severe in these regards than when used nasally.
However , cocaine in any form is far more toxic on the heart than meth and carries a risk of random sudden death that meth does not have.
On the flip side, meth is significantly more neurotoxic than cocaine and is particularly associated with damage to the dopamine receptors in the brain.
As it floods the brain with incredible amounts of dopamine the brain responds by down regulating the dopamine receptors and this eventually results in anhedonia and flattened affect, meaning the loss of the ability to feel any happiness or pleasure without meth and eventually even with meth.
This damage can take years to recover and may even be permanent.
The loss of the ability to feel any natural motivation, satisfaction or pleasure is one of the ways that meth use ruins some people's lives.
Meth is also associated with causing severe and long lasting psychosis to a much higher degree than cocaine which also carries this risk.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/04/16 03:44 PM)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707300 - 10/04/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
But smoking crack is so much fun!
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23707305 - 10/04/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23707539 - 10/04/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I wonder if I would enjoy it or if it would just be an even more intense version of the misery I experienced from snorting cocaine.
I always think what a blessing in disguise it was that I never learned about benzos until after I quit cocaine .
I can only imagine benzos would have masked all the bad parts (anxiety , insomnia) and then I would have enjoyed it more and maybe never had the motivation to quit.
I actually think if I had Xanax in those days I would be dead.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707581 - 10/04/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't enjoy the feeling of cocaine, only tried it a few times, gross feeling
Feels good in the nose though
|
The Cheshire Cat
Tea For Everyone!



Registered: 06/05/16
Posts: 261
Loc: United States
Last seen: 6 years, 15 days
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: ModestMouse]
#23708099 - 10/04/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ModestMouse said: lol it's the shroomery any prolific poster here has used drugs to excess
I've been prescribed Amphetamines for about 1/3rd my life. But i've never taken it Recreationally, I Don't see how people like this shit.
--------------------
 
"It's Hip to be square" -Huey Lewis "All war is based on deception" -Sun Tzu
|
DustyBottoms



Registered: 11/07/14
Posts: 3,071
Loc: TheUnderbelly
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
#23708137 - 10/04/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Moonshoe said: I wonder if I would enjoy it or if it would just be an even more intense version of the misery I experienced from snorting cocaine.
I always think what a blessing in disguise it was that I never learned about benzos until after I quit cocaine .
I can only imagine benzos would have masked all the bad parts (anxiety , insomnia) and then I would have enjoyed it more and maybe never had the motivation to quit.
I actually think if I had Xanax in those days I would be dead.
Quote:
Moonshoe said: I wonder if I would enjoy it or if it would just be an even more intense version of the misery I experienced from snorting cocaine.
I always think what a blessing in disguise it was that I never learned about benzos until after I quit cocaine .
I can only imagine benzos would have masked all the bad parts (anxiety , insomnia) and then I would have enjoyed it more and maybe never had the motivation to quit.
I actually think if I had Xanax in those days I would be dead.
I've really enjoyed reading your posts in this thread. I can't really relate to the meth talk (never have done it and have no desire. It's pure fucking garbage and those that try to argue otherwise are just plain stupid or are in denial of their own problem) but the cocaine talk hits me pretty hard.
I went through a pretty dark period in my life with blow. I was spending every extra dollar I had on it, "borrowed" money from family and friends, and at my lowest point, stole wedding money from one of my cousins on the night of her wedding to pay for my addiction. For a 2-3 yr stretch, I was doing a teener 5-6 days a week. Every week. I know I've done irreparable damage to my body and have probably shaved a decade or more off of my lifespan.
I then cleaned up my act and didn't touch the shit for a good 4-5 yrs. Then, I moved to NYC about 4 yrs ago and got back into cocaine again. Not to the same level I was in previously, but I would say on average, I was dong a gram to myself roughly 2-3 times a month. Every month. And I felt disgusted and disappointed myself each and every time.
A month ago I deleted my blow contact. I had a "heart to heart" convo with my buddies I was doing it with and I got them to delete the contact as well. The stuff is pure garbage and leads to nowhere good.
And I've come to the realization that the drug itself Fucking sucks. It's fun for what, the first 10 mins? The first couple lines? Then what? All you think about is doing more. And more. And fucking more.
The next time (and I know it will happen) that I'm contemplating on doing blow, I think I'm going to pull up this thread and read it from top to bottom for motivation to stay away from it. It's fucking trash.
I'm not really sure what the purpose of this post is, but I just wanted to get this off my chest.
--------------------
|
majicman30
naturejunkie



Registered: 09/22/14
Posts: 749
|
Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Kenetic]
#23728741 - 10/11/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
kenetic said: Personally I think meth is terrible. I used to work for a carnival and I hated when all my friends got a new connect. They'd be in a great mood for a while and suddenly they'd be begging to borrow money and then be in a shitty, unbearable mood for the next week.
Fuck meth.
Seems like only some of us c this mainly the ones not doing it. When they r they r blind to it. It hurts destroys Families! It's a A Fact.Peace & Love
-------------------- [ /url ]    [url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/16-12/893004217-IMG_4581.
|
|