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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23703812 - 10/03/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Asantes probably gonna perm me for this but I dumped out a couple eightballs worth of mxe, back when it first hit rhe market. The compulsive redosing was too much for me. Wish I just kept it. I didnt even hole properly.
First time I dumped out MXE it was the ultra pure fluffy stuff from 2012. Dumped out 16 grams of it.
The next time I dumped it out was a really shitty impure batch that was causing extremely weird side effects. 40 grams went down the drain.
3rd time me and three friends went into a synonymous hole that was so deathly fucked up it would take a page to write it all out, and we dumepd everything we had left which was about 14 grams.
Never gotten any since that last one.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago]
#23703818 - 10/03/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I regret the hell out of 30 grams of that. The 40 was needed.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23703829 - 10/03/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: People are extremely uninformed about the risks and harms of cocaine and generally speaking people massively underestimate how harmful cocaine is.
People have a pervasive misconception that cocaine is a relatively safe drug, which could not be farther from the truth.
Alcohol causes more harm overall because it is more widely used.
However, there is no risk of randomly dying from a single beer.
Yet a single small line of coke can kill a healthy young man instantly and randomly and there is no way to predict or prevent it.
Furthermore cocaine becomes exponentially more dangerous and toxic when combined with alcohol, which it always is.
It is remarkable how ignorant and misinformed cocaine users are about the risk of instant death and the certainty of cumulative heart damage.
It is because the harmful misconception of cocaine as safe persists that I continue to make posts like this to educate people whenever the topic arises .
I know when I started using cocaine I had no idea how spectacularly dangerous and harmful it was or that every single line threatened my life and did permanent damage.
My hope is that because of my posts at least one young person will at least realize what he or she is getting himself into, and will perhaps choose a safer drug to experiment with.
This isn't even to touch on the mental, emotional, financial, spiritual and social devastation cocaine use causes.
damn you've officially ruined coca for me..I also have used crack many a time.. I always thought it was relatively safe tho..I thought coke users and crackheads usaully dont o.d that's why you see so many all old and cracked out that they just keep peeling on.. now I think i'm gonna be to scared to use again..and I'm pretty sure I might have had a heart attack on crack before..
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: vandago] 1
#23703836 - 10/03/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thinking about all that good mxe getting flushed hurts me.
Here is what legendary drug genius Ped had to say about cocaine.
Don't take my word for it. Take Ped's:
"Cocaine interferes with the electroconductivity of the heart by blocking the tiny currents necessary to sustain its normal rhythm. Just as cocaine makes a person's gums feel numb by blocking the transmission of nerve signals, so too cocaine blocks the transmission of nerve signals within and throughout the heart, effectively "numbing" it. This can lead to sudden cardiac death, which is to say that cocaine can cause a person's heart to abruptly stop without warning. Death is almost immediate. While this effect is quite rare, it appears to occur randomly, and can strike anyone at any age or health status.
The cardiotoxicity of cocaine is unique and multivariate, occurring by way of numerous mechanisms. Heart failure associated with cocaine use can occur by way of vasoconstriction, vasospasm, accelerated atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries), thrombogenesis (blood clots, embolisms), arrhythmia and proarrhythmia (novel and exacerbated voltage aberrations, respectively). Cocaine users are much more likely to have structural heart abnormalities, and have statistically higher rates of coronary artery disease and hypertrophic abnormalities in heart structure and valvulature, i.e., enlarged ventricles and thickened valves.
There is no question that cocaine is one of the most cardiotoxic of the primary illicit drugs. It is unique among stimulants in that it not only increases cardiovascular load by raising blood pressure and heart rate, but is also directly toxic to the organ itself, interfering with its structure and function. There is a small but very real risk of acute and sudden cardiac death, while long-term, chronic cocaine use enormously increases the risk of developing or accelerating an existing cardiovascular disease.
Except in rare (and usually fatal) cases, single-dose cocaine will not cause permanent damage to the heart. Used repeatedly, however, cocaine dramatically elevates the risk of developing structural abnormalities of the heart and blood vessels, which can in turn manifest as any number of cardiovascular diseases, whether acutely or in later life. If you are concerned about your cocaine use and its health impacts, it is definitely wise to listen to that concern, and to guide your decisions according to it, as the cardiotoxicity of cocaine is not easily overstated. It really is quite bad for your heart."
Edited by Moonshoe (10/03/16 02:19 PM)
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23703849 - 10/03/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've thrown out coke a couple times and a bunch of Xanax. No regrets here
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703858 - 10/03/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah when I think I was o.ding on crack was the scariest shit ever one morning the second I woke up I took the fattest rock straight to the dome and boom! ear ringing! I started sweating and this death glaze just came over and fear struck me like needles..wierd synchronicity happened that I was gonna die..fuct dude
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23703873 - 10/03/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can safely say I have never thrown away any drugs
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703874 - 10/03/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: There is an immense amount of hard scientific proof that cocaine is so lethal and damaging.
There is zero doubt or controversy and no lack of evidence, users just never bothered to research it.
I wish you or DB was there to back me up. its such a common misconception that cocaine is safe though. There was a kid on youtube who didnt know shit about drugs saying that the only reason meth exists is because its trying to imitate a cocaine high and cocaine is much, much safer than meth so cocaine should be legal. amphetamines have been known for a long time. Some people just make shit up. He probably thought that because cocaine is seen as more classy than amps it meant they are safer.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Bigfeely123]
#23703900 - 10/03/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've thrown away an enormous amount of drugs over the years. 100+ hits of various NBOMes (25i, 25c and 25d), 250mg of some obscure stimulant whose name I forget, about 250mg of ethylphenidate, 400mg of an unknown 4-XX-XXX, 100mg allylescaline, and one time on a mushroom trip I got really paranoid and threw away my entire grow including probably 100 wet grams. This is just what I can remember off the top of my head.
The only one I regret is the mushroom grow. Never throw away drugs when you're still tripping. Always wait until you're sober again.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23703909 - 10/03/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Next time anyone challenges you about the harms of cocaine I recommend copying and pasting the above Ped quote.
What he says there is beyond dispute and will dispel any delusions about cocaine being even remotely safe.
Meth is exponentially more reinforcing, moreish, compulsive and addictive than cocaine and meth users are thus more likely to completely lose control of their behaviour and their lives.
However, cocaine is exponentially more harmful to your heart than meth and much more likely to kill you with a single dose.
Not only is cocaine easier to overdose on than meth, coke can also kill you without overdosing.
Coke can kill at average and even small doses.
Meth is a killer too though. It's incredibly addictive and the average meth user will be dead within seven years of first use.
Meth addiction is therefore essentially a terminal disease and Is the most compulsive of any common illicit drug.
One might say meth is more likely to ruin your life, while cocaine is more likely to kill you.
Both are Deadly in their own ways.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703921 - 10/03/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Next time anyone challenges you about the harms of cocaine I recommend copying and pasting the above Ped quote.
What he says there is beyond dispute and will dispel any delusions about cocaine being even remotely safe.
Meth is exponentially more reinforcing, moreish, compulsive and addictive than cocaine and meth users are thus more likely to completely lose control of their behaviour and their lives.
However, cocaine is exponentially more harmful to your heart than meth and much more likely to kill you with a single dose.
Not only is cocaine easier to overdose on than meth, coke can also kill you without overdosing.
Coke can kill at average and even small doses.
Meth is a killer too though. It's incredibly addictive and the average meth user will be dead within seven years of first use.
Meth addiction is therefore essentially a terminal disease and Is the most compulsive of any common illicit drug.
One might say meth is more likely to ruin your life, while cocaine is more likely to kill you.
Both are Deadly in their own ways.
yeah I hear meth users only last like 7 years the impurities rot their organs
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23703924 - 10/03/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you ever actually done meth? It isn't very addictive, and it's effects are essentially just adderall XR with a little more serotonin effect. The main problem is that idiots binge on it doing 100+mg for days at a time. If people used meth responsibly, it'd be about as dangerous as adderall.
Also, meth is regularly prescribed to both children and the elderly. It's relatively safe if you use it responsibly.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703947 - 10/03/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Have you ever actually done meth? It isn't very addictive, and it's effects are essentially just adderall XR with a little more serotonin effect. The main problem is that idiots binge on it doing 100+mg for days at a time. If people used meth responsibly, it'd be about as dangerous as adderall.
Also, meth is regularly prescribed to both children and the elderly. It's relatively safe if you use it responsibly.
no thanks that is the one drug I will never touch I mean did you not see the anti-drug videos when you were a child what that stuff does to people..that's what permanently put that nightmare in my brain to NEVER touch that stuff..I don't really like stims anyway so I dont even want a adderall or vyvanse
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: hellno]
#23703949 - 10/03/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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xd
Edited by hellno (10/03/16 02:50 PM)
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703953 - 10/03/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude meth fucks everything up. It just makes you want to binge. Fuck man after 1 day im doing 200+ mg shots multiple times daily. Absolute shit.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: nooneman]
#23703977 - 10/03/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I have never done meth. However it is absolutely beyond dispute that meth is one of the most addictive of all drugs and the most immediately reinforcing / compulsive of all Drugs due to its unparalleled increase of dopamine levels in the brain.
Dopamine is the brain's reward system neurotransmitter and is directly associated with reinforcement of behavior.
When something causes Dopamine release the Dopamine creates the desire to repeat that activity.
Meth raises Dopamine levels more than any other drug and correspondingly reinforces the desire to repeatedly take the drug.
When you say meth isn't very addictive you are spreading harmful and extremely inaccurate misinformation.
Meth is incredibly, extremely, uniquely addictive and this is scientifically indisputable.
Meth use physically rewires the brain and repeated use changes the physical structure of the brain in a way that causes compulsive binging.
Meth addicts have a very low rate of successfully quitting for the same reason.
Chronic meth use hijacks the brain's reward system and makes the addict feel and act as if meth is necessary for survival like food or water.
The Dopamine release of meth and its effect on the nucleus accumbens rapidly hijacks the brain's decision making process so that meth is perceived as a physical NEED to the extent that an addicted rat will self administer meth in preference of food until it dies of starvation.
This is why meth addicts pursue meth to the exclusion of all else and often end up losing absolutely everything to the addiction- their brain literally tells them they need meth more than food, more than love, more than sex, more than their own children.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Starstepper]
#23704004 - 10/03/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Starstepper said: Almost every time I'm in Vegas I have to flush some blow and mdma capsules as I'm leaving for the airport. My group orders too much and if I finished it all I'd probably od.
so u dont just throw it out in a garbage or give it to someone?
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704007 - 10/03/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Threw away some meth before that my friend was given as coke. Hes like i got some shit but im not sure that its coke.
I scoped it, noticed its crystaline appearance. Grabbed a piece of tinfoil put a little fire underneath and i watched as a plume of white smoke filled the air.
I wanted nothing to do with it so i threw it out. I dont care for stimulants and figured it wasnt worth the risk playing with such an addictive drug. Its one of those drugs that i just wont ever do
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704014 - 10/03/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: No I have never done meth. However it is absolutely beyond dispute that meth is one of the most addictive of all drugs and the most immediately reinforcing / compulsive of all Drugs due to its unparalleled increase of dopamine levels in the brain.
Dopamine is the brain's reward system neurotransmitter and is directly associated with reinforcement of behavior.
When something causes Dopamine release the Dopamine creates the desire to repeat that activity.
Meth raises Dopamine levels more than any other drug and correspondingly reinforces the desire to repeatedly take the drug.
When you say meth isn't very addictive you are spreading harmful and extremely inaccurate misinformation.
Meth is incredibly, extremely, uniquely addictive and this is scientifically indisputable.
Meth use physically rewires the brain and repeated use changes the physical structure of the brain in a way that causes compulsive binging.
Meth addicts have a very low rate of successfully quitting for the same reason.
Chronic meth use hijacks the brain's reward system and makes the addict feel and act as if meth is necessary for survival like food or water.
The Dopamine release of meth and its effect on the nucleus accumbens rapidly hijacks the brain's decision making process so that meth is perceived as a physical NEED to the extent that an addicted rat will self administer meth in preference of food until it dies of starvation.
This is why meth addicts pursue meth to the exclusion of all else and often end up losing absolutely everything to the addiction- their brain literally tells them they need meth more than food, more than love, more than sex, more than their own children.
Everything you said about meth can be said about adderal.
Personally, I don't think meth/adderal are that dangerous if used in moderation.
I have abused the fuck out of adderal and the worst case scenario for me is usually one day of feeling shitty and then I'm back to normal.
I have never gotten any sort of withdrawals from amphetamine use.
Opiates are far more addictive. During opiate withdrawal, people can't sleep, can't digest food properly, etc. You never get such withdrawals from amphetamine use. The craving, from my experience, is purely psychological.
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Re: Anyone ever throw away drugs? (and regret it afterwards.) [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#23704016 - 10/03/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your opinion is invalid.
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