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Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? * 1
    #23699263 - 10/02/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Or are they more concerned about sending their kids to private schools?

Are you in favor of mandatory vaccines with the mistaken belief that if all the herd is protected no one will ever be sick?

Have you done even cursory investigation into the adjuvants in vaccines and their toxicity to the human immune and nervous system?

Do you care only as much as being a member of the herd in support of what they stand for, or will you ever be capable of stepping away from the herd mentality? 



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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23699293 - 10/02/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

vaccines are how the immune system is taught,
they are important for individuals,
the herd benefits from individuals not from vaccines.
death from communicable disease should be history 220 years after vaccines were discovered to work.
vaccines should not be an issue in a modern Wikipedia world.
people who resist them are undereducated in basic biology.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23699309 - 10/02/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
vaccines are how the immune system is taught,
they are important for individuals,
the herd benefits from individuals not from vaccines.
death from communicable disease should be history 220 years after vaccines were discovered to work.
vaccines should not be an issue in a modern Wikipedia world.
people who resist them are undereducated in basic biology.




Really?  The immune system is taught with mercury, aluminum, MSG, formaldehyde, etc?  Who is undereducated here?  Do you even have a minimum understanding of toxicity?  I doubt it.

Your historical references are vague at best and your conclusion as to what creates immunity are silly.  Vaccines create immunity?

Toilets and clean water are in fact what reduced diseases, to a large extent.  Hand washing, and not drinking shit.

Meanwhile neurological diseases are spiking through the roof.  What caused that, pray tell?

"People who resist them are undereducated in basic biology".  What a load of shit this is.  Fucking shit.  You are a pathetic debater, your posts over the years are like verbal diarrhea spewed out as if it doesn't stink.  I wasn't going to bring it up, but you seem to think you are some scientific genius and I'm stupid on science.  You won't address the adjuvants in vaccines, you ignore that, yet want to lecture me about "basic biology" in some not so vague personal attack. 

P.S. It really does stink.

edit - user redgreenvines is now on ignore.  I refuse to debate with an idiot, and one who speaks a lot of shit as if it's true then uses wikipedia of all things to back up his "argument"


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23699323 - 10/02/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

vaccines do not create immunity, they are crash courses for the immune system.
and sometimes the immune system freaks a bit, but the result is still immunity which is a huge plus.
check it out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination
mercury is not what makes a vaccine work
if there is a heavy metal contamination it is less impactful than eating fish, and the upside is way better than just eating fish, you get to eat fish much longer.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23699341 - 10/02/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

in case you do not click,
and in case it is too hard to figure out what it means,
here is a summary of the hoax which causes ignorant people to believe that vaccination leads to autism.


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Vaccination-autism controversy
Main article: MMR vaccine controversy

In the MMR vaccine controversy, a fraudulent 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield, originally published in The Lancet, presented supposed evidence that the MMR vaccine (an immunization against measles, mumps and rubella that is typically first administered to children shortly after their first birthday) was linked to the onset of autism spectrum disorders.[41] The article was widely criticized for lack of scientific rigour, partially retracted in 2004 by Wakefield's co-authors,[42] and was fully retracted by The Lancet in 2010.[43] Wakefield was struck off the UK's medical registry for the fraud.[44]

This Lancet article has sparked a much greater anti-vaccination movement, primarily in the United States. Even though the article was fraudulent and was retracted, 1 in 4 parents still believe vaccines can cause autism.[45] Many parents do not vaccinate their children because they feel that diseases are no longer present due to all the vaccinations.[46] This is a false assumption, since some diseases could still return. These pathogens could possibly infect vaccinated people, due to the pathogen's ability to mutate when it is able to live in unvaccinated hosts. In 2010, there was a whooping cough outbreak in California that was the worst outbreak in 50 years. A possible contributing factor was parents choosing to exempt their children from vaccinations.[47] There was also a case in Texas in 2012 where 21 members of a church contracted measles because they chose to abstain from immunizations.[47]




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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23699348 - 10/02/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

if anyone cares, I just got this:
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Ignore Received: 10/02/16 09:25 AM (9 minutes, 30 seconds ago)
From: LunarEclipse
Fucking idiot.  Go get your flu shot idiot.




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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23702685 - 10/03/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the mainstream medical community is the greatest evil in society.

promoting them is direct support for the death cult.

give no credence to their supporters.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: nothing exists]
    #23702910 - 10/03/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Our health care system is not evil, but it is medieval.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23702992 - 10/03/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

how many of us would like to be walking around with 'nut bar' warning placards in public spaces?


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23703158 - 10/03/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's pretty easy to figure out who the nut bars are in the shroomery.  I'll PM you my list, but you have to promise not to post it, that's against the rules :nono:

And do pediatricians care about your kids?  Yes, they care so much that they are usually willing to try to educate stupid anti-vaxx parents about it even though those parents usually behave like children in a temper tantrum, and won't use their services anymore.  The ones who allow parents to not vaccinate their children are the sellouts.  Or they are idiots.  Source, know several pediatricians.  It's not an easy job.  They do it because they like children, not their asshole parents.  The parents are the worst.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Hippocampus]
    #23727428 - 10/11/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My children are not vaccinated. They never get sick like every other child.

Hmmmmm.......


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23727453 - 10/11/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in favor of mandatory vaccinations, and whatever my level of boredom was the last couple of years when I joined here, I got a problem with wackjobs on the internet. My generation was saved by immunizations, and we never heard of autism. Redgreenvines said his usual intelligent things, and everyone else, I don't know wtf you're talking about.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23727505 - 10/11/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

wackjobs are the easiest target community to which to sell merchandise.

just claim there is a conspiracy against the product and generate some ambiguous scientific basis so that they are armed with "indisputable facts from historical events and a lab or two", no matter how twisted, bullshit baffles brains.

put out a few tweets, and Bingo success!

people who cannot read between the lines of medical, technical, and judicial jargon are ripe targets in this market sector.

I guess to make your way in the world you have to find experts you trust or become a bit more expert in these fields.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23727528 - 10/11/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
wackjobs are the easiest target community to which to sell merchandise.

just claim there is a conspiracy against the product and generate some ambiguous scientific basis so that they are armed with "indisputable facts from historical events and a lab or two", no matter how twisted, bullshit baffles brains.

put out a few tweets, and Bingo success!

people who cannot read between the lines of medical, technical, and judicial jargon are ripe targets in this market sector.

I guess to make your way in the world you have to find experts you trust or become a bit more expert in these fields.



unfortunately worded, for you, to sound like you are anti vax


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: nothing exists]
    #23727582 - 10/11/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I am using the wrong language:
translation:
Quote:

don't do what those rich guys say,
they made us poor and stupid and want to stick us with poison too.
instead we can avoid any plagues by having a clean heart
and to clean our hearts we can burn some sweet grass which has been proven to kill all diseases, and raise consciousness!
so just keep your kids in a room with sweetgrass smoke for 10 minutes a day and you are golden!




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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23728612 - 10/11/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Brian Jones said:
I'm in favor of mandatory vaccinations, and whatever my level of boredom was the last couple of years when I joined here, I got a problem with wackjobs on the internet. My generation was saved by immunizations, and we never heard of autism. Redgreenvines said his usual intelligent things, and everyone else, I don't know wtf you're talking about.




Whack job.  Go get your kids poisoned, leave mine alone.  As usual, you are an idiot.

Autism is up about 2500%.  You are an idiot.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23728617 - 10/11/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DividedQuantum said:
Our health care system is not evil, but it is medieval.




What's the diff?


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: nothing exists]
    #23728621 - 10/11/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

nothing exists said:
unfortunately worded, for you, to sound like you are anti vax




Look, the nazi or whatever he is is an idiot.  Years of idiotic posts with no caps doesn't change that.  He is still an idiot.  This much is a fact that no one could possibly argue.  The lame appeal to authority doesn't change anything.  Still, idiot.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23728628 - 10/11/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroom_Goddess said:
My children are not vaccinated. They never get sick like every other child.

Hmmmmm.......




Thanks honey.  You are smart, unlike the philosophical idiots who spew shit, you observe things and see how reality is.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Hippocampus]
    #23728636 - 10/11/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's pretty easy to figure out who the nut bars are in the shroomery.  I'll PM you my list, but you have to promise not to post it, that's against the rules :nono:

And do pediatricians care about your kids?  Yes, they care so much that they are usually willing to try to educate stupid anti-vaxx parents about it even though those parents usually behave like children in a temper tantrum, and won't use their services anymore.  The ones who allow parents to not vaccinate their children are the sellouts.  Or they are idiots.  Source, know several pediatricians.  It's not an easy job.  They do it because they like children, not their asshole parents.  The parents are the worst.




OMG Zeik Heil.  Take your shots out back and leave the rest of us toxin free.  And get a room with your fellow Nazis we need to know where to toss the molotovs.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23728640 - 10/11/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Or are they more concerned about sending their kids to private schools?

Are you in favor of mandatory vaccines ...




from a strictly logical point of view : are generalizations concerned about generalizations?

as regards vaccines - I'm glad I got polio vaccine as a kid

When I stepped on a nail, (in midlife) I did not get a tetanus shot, as I know that was a problem a 100 years ago when horse shit was everywhere, but not now, and it wasn't rusted - and i knew to soak the foot daily in something like salt, epsom salt or ginger water so the wound would heal from the inside out, and drain- if it scabs at the surface puss will get trapped.

like wise i don't get flu shots, because my diet is better than the average Americans.

I don't think it's a one size fits all deal. Some vaccines may have caused some harm to some. They are produced by different companies by different methods in different times and places.

Probably much of the 'third world', wishes they had the same access to vaccines that we in the 'west' do.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23728649 - 10/11/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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laughingdog said:
Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
Or are they more concerned about sending their kids to private schools?

Are you in favor of mandatory vaccines ...




from a strictly logical point of view : are generalizations concerned about generalizations?

as regards vaccines - I'm glad I got polio vaccine as a kid

When I stepped on a nail, (in midlife) I did not get a tetanus shot, as I know that was a problem a 100 years ago when horse shit was everywhere, but not now, and it wasn't rusted - and i knew to soak the foot daily in something like salt, epsom salt or ginger water so the wound would heal from the inside out, and drain- if it scabs at the surface puss will get trapped.

like wise i don't get flu shots, because my diet is better than the average Americans.

I don't think it's a one size fits all deal. Some vaccines may have caused some harm to some. They are produced by different companies by different methods in different times and places.

Probably much of the 'third world', wishes they had the same access to vaccines that we in the 'west' do.




Read Dr. Mary's Monkey then you idiot.  Will you be glad knowing you were injected with cancer viruses?  Fuck.  I hate you.  Nothing worse than being the messenger of the truth and being argued with.  You know nothing about polio so wtf are you even happy about?

edit so sorry you never use a cap either are you redgreenslimes cousin?  wtf take your flu shots get fucking two you fucking idiot.  seriously between you and redgreenslime i never read anything that made much sense.

maybe no caps is the sign of a fucking idiot who talks shit is a passive aggressive prick maybe?  moron.

too bad that nail wasn't sat on i hear lock jaw of the ass really hurts.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: LunarEclipse] * 2
    #23729046 - 10/11/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Member banned for insulting comments and general lack of decorum.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23729087 - 10/11/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What the hell, I never perceived him as such an idiot


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #23741169 - 10/15/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Man I have a little break from the shroomery, come back and LunerEclipse has fallen off the deep end. I knew he/she was wacky, but not that wacky.


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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: blingbling]
    #23756545 - 10/20/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If they didn't care about kids they would've gone into another medical field.
Every medical professional iv'e had a discussion with, goes into that field because that's what interests them. Being the reason i'm going into orthodontics rather than general dentistry, periodontics, etc.
my girlfriend is in school for OB because she is interested in delivering children.
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Re: Do the pediatricians care about your children's health? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23756559 - 10/20/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, also about the vaccine thing, people are injected by vaccines with a from of the virus so the antibodies in your blood cells build up an immunity therefore you can't get sick from it anymore.
They do this do GREATLY lower the amount of people effected and sometimes killed from these viruses.
yes there are occasional questionable chemicals.

Responding to lunareclipse's comment, theres no such thing as a cancer "virus".  Cancer occurs when a cell is reproducing and something goes wrong along the way.
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