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Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? ***Update consensus fruits should be gtg
    #23697648 - 10/01/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So close but not quite...
Did cakes, trays, and a few Mono's.
This is first mono from grains.
Never had a contam before but got my ass handed to me this round.
This is the first flush, it colonized the coir/verm/coffee/gypsum
Very fast, 5 to 6 days but had spots from day 3 on.
Should have dumped them?...yes I'm sure...is that still the best and possibly only idea, probably? 
Please let me know what you think contamination is and if safe to eat.
Thanks much!


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697675 - 10/01/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The fruits are fine to consume as long as there is no visible mold growth found on them.

As far as identification of contaminate, you will have to wait for someone else who is more educated.

I would make sure this is in an area other than your current grow room-as you don't want to spread the nasties around, possibly contaminating future grows.

:cheers:


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: morty422]
    #23697686 - 10/01/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What in the fuck is going on in the first pic? It looks like you cut out a big chunk and poured milk into it. Then the sides started getting moldy anyways.
:horrified:

But the fruits should be okay.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: dankington]
    #23697701 - 10/01/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:
What the hell is that all about?


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: morty422]
    #23697705 - 10/01/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The fruits are fine to consume as long as there is no visible mold growth found on them.

As far as identification of contaminate, you will have to wait for someone else who is more educated.

I would make sure this is in an area other than your current grow room-as you don't want to spread the nasties around, possibly contaminating future grows.

:cheers:



There is a visable growth on them if you looked at the pics.  Maybe its just odd mycelium.  I havent seen anything quite like that before.  The first pick is gross.  I would just toss that anyways and clean the shit out of your lab before trying a new batch.  What is that goop?!?!  Its hard to see from the pics but is that a thick layer of mold on your substrate where you cut it out?


Edited by RyeJar (10/01/16 04:41 PM)


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: Greg]
    #23697711 - 10/01/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I did cut a big chunk out of the 1 tub and salted the shit out of the surrounding area to stop green growth, worked for a while...then???
All the PE opened their caps as soon as they popped up, very mutated mutants!!


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697716 - 10/01/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I would just be sure to double check your sterile technique and pasteurization methods and make sure your grains are contam free before using them to spawn.  Again, I would scrub your area down, get the contaminated substrate out of the area without disturbing the spores too much.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697728 - 10/01/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No doubt about some scrubbing entire room, hell maybe I'll take the wife and cat out and bleach bomb it.  And any picking will be done outside and then inhailated...
Jars sat after going through PC for about a week before innoculating, made my own dirty spore syringe from injecting water into upside down giant (85g) PE cap, massaging cap then extracting water with syringe.  Got a pretty decently  dark spore syringe...but who cares because it was contaminated.
I lost 4 out of 12 jars before spawning, I knew I could very well be in trouble, but at least I know where it happened


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697737 - 10/01/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Went from this

To this



Damn


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697750 - 10/01/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think that's just the unstable genetics of PE, that doesn't look like contam to me, necessarily. PE puts out some funky fruits.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697752 - 10/01/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No doubt about some scrubbing entire room, hell maybe I'll take the wife and cat out and bleach bomb it.  And any picking will be done outside and then inhailated...
Jars sat after going through PC for about a week before innoculating, made my own dirty spore syringe from injecting water into upside down giant (85g) PE cap, massaging cap then extracting water with syringe.  Got a pretty decently  dark spore syringe...but who cares because it was contaminated.
I lost 4 out of 12 jars before spawning, I knew I could very well be in trouble, but at least I know where it happened




Yeah that syringe method is a big no IMO.  For it to have worked well, you needed to put those spores on agar to clean them up.  If I start with spores I will inject them onto grain and when colonized I will take single grains and pop em on a few plates of agar and then I will use the rest to spawn to a bulk sub just to get a few babies out of em.  The real work is cleaning them up on the agar or if you are serious clean them up and isolate a few strains from them.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697838 - 10/01/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes sir, doing some Agar work now, and have 8 jars colonizing from clean Agar wedge just dropped in, in a SAB...flow hood to come soon.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23697867 - 10/01/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes sir, doing some Agar work now, and have 8 jars colonizing from clean Agar wedge just dropped in, in a SAB...flow hood to come soon.




Dont worry about flowhoods.  They are nice for some things but there are a few things you would do more harm than good by using one like cleaning up dirty plates.  I think a better use for the money is an AA Autoclave.  Best money I have ever spent.  Got my first one for 50 bux at a "goodwill" 10 years ago and just got brand new but open box for 150 dollars on ebay.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697869 - 10/01/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Unless you're handling a very large volume of spawn or something, a SAB is your best bet.

If you've got money burning a hole in your pocket definitely get an AA pressure cooker.
It's a true game changer.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: Greg]
    #23697873 - 10/01/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

Unless you're handling a very large volume of spawn or something, a SAB is your best bet.

If you've got money burning a hole in your pocket definitely get an AA pressure cooker.
It's a true game changer.



Keep the pressure cookers for food use.  Get the autoclave for tissue culture/lab work (my personal opinion of course.)


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697879 - 10/01/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The biggest AA canner is about 2x less expensive than the smallest AA autoclave though, and for our purposes works just as well...

Really the only important things are that it gets to at least 15 PSI and holds a lot of jars/bags.
Which either the autoclave or canner does.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: Greg]
    #23697885 - 10/01/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It does work just as well with certain precautions but I got a 25qt for 150 never used.  If that wasn't worth the money then I dont know what is.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697888 - 10/01/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Damn that's a good price. Nice find.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: Greg]
    #23697889 - 10/01/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn that's a good price. Nice find.



I was giddy.


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Re: Identify contam Plz, if trich maybe still make tea? [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697907 - 10/01/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug: my presto 16 or whatever is pretty cool…

Though using my buddy's 941 is pretty awesome :awesomenod:


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