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TheMovement
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It's time to talk about addiction..
#23696827 - 10/01/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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And our struggles with it. Where does it come from? Is it physical or spiritual? Are we predestined to addiction? What's the purpose? How do we stop it?
I think we should open up this conversation. I think we should support each other I'm getting clean. I think everyone should go to forest dance Costa Rica ;p
I think it's important to recognize your addictive tendencies and whether or not they negatively affect your life, and if they do, why do you continue to do so. This is a community that doesn't shun drug use. I don't either.., I fucking love drugs and think they are a very valuable tool in the expansion of consciousness, however, it's easy to let it get out of hand.
Take tobacco, for example. Tobacco is a sacred medicine, used for thousands of years to help us commuincate with the sacred masculine. However, it's easy to abuse. Smoking is fun and easy. Satiates a lot of base desires. But without the intention or conscious process of smoking, it will kill you. Because it wasn't meant to be that way.
So yeah. Addiction. It sucks. But we can beat it. I'm still young but I've been there n done that. In my last life I died from an overdose.
Let's talk. How do you deal with addiction?
I also have a bunch of tea blends to help with not only the withdrawala process but also staying away from drugs. If anyone is interested, me. Will send to you for only the cost of shipping.
Peace and love.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement] 6
#23696846 - 10/01/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not with you it isn't.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement] 3
#23696881 - 10/01/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm addicted to big butts and cannot lie
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Lucis
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement] 2
#23696898 - 10/01/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel like many people are going to be addicts the rest of their lives, not just addicted to drugs though. I have seen people addicted to power that have fucked good people over a million times worse than a junkie doing some stupid shit for a fix.
I think we all have our vices, some are just socially accepted.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Lucis]
#23696906 - 10/01/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think living in post-modern society predisposes us to addiction.
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TheMovement
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Lucis]
#23696959 - 10/01/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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falsereality said: Not with you it isn't.
Not sure which sentence this refers too. I am sure however that the sentiment and idea behind this post takes priority over the opinion of the muse. Quote:
Fennario said: I feel like many people are going to be addicts the rest of their lives, not just addicted to drugs though. I have seen people addicted to power that have fucked good people over a million times worse than a junkie doing some stupid shit for a fix.
I think we all have our vices, some are just socially accepted.
Many people are addicts. But I believe, I know, that the key to conscious evolution revolves around those addictive tendencies. A lot of our addictive tendencies are imprinted upon us at young ages and the only way to solve them or get out of that loop is through a spiritual revelation or revolution. Words are poor descriptors for what I'm trying to say but I know that we are capable of escaping our inherent loops. We have to start to listen to the universe. It's trying to guide us.
My personal addictions are sex and alcohol. There were two defining moments that blew my head off and showed me this. so I took a break from both. Started listening to the universe. Studied hours upon hours. Why do I have this tendency? Why do I put so much energy into this?
A lot. A lot of it has to do with our parents problems and ideologies. We are obviously a synthesis of our rents. But why were we born to the parents we were? What's the lesson we have to learn? Past lives are a thing.
Getting past addiction, whether it be sex, drugs, or spending money is so, so key to growth.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement] 1
#23697027 - 10/01/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The one thing I've noticed with my own personal struggles and those of my friends, the only way to begin working on the problem is by actually wanting to.
It, for me, doesn't matter what a significant other/friend/family member/co-worker, etc says to you, you can't and won't do anything about it until YOU really want to make a change.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23697039 - 10/01/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DustyBottoms said: The one thing I've noticed with my own personal struggles and those of my friends, the only way to begin working on the problem is by actually wanting to.
It, for me, doesn't matter what a significant other/friend/family member/co-worker, etc says to you, you can't and won't do anything about it until YOU really want to make a change.
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TheMovement
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Lucis]
#23697091 - 10/01/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fennario said:
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DustyBottoms said: The one thing I've noticed with my own personal struggles and those of my friends, the only way to begin working on the problem is by actually wanting to.
It, for me, doesn't matter what a significant other/friend/family member/co-worker, etc says to you, you can't and won't do anything about it until YOU really want to make a change.

That's so true. Friends and family can give advice in all aspects of life but you (I) usually just ignore it until the epiphany. I first noticed this trend when talking to friends about their toxic lovers. "Yo, X is crazy and makes you act crazy wtf u thinking"
" fuck off mate I love them!!"
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Lucis] 1
#23697095 - 10/01/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's funny that I keep doing drugs over and over that I don't even really enjoy. I understand my addiction to opiates to some extent, if I stop I get sick, but I keep doing other drugs like alcohol, cocaine, and weed even that I don't even enjoy.
I did quit cigarettes tho. Don't think I smoke one in all of September. Really I quit heroin, and I don't enjoy cigarettes without opiates anymore I guess.
I think I've drank every day since I stopped taking opiates. I'm getting a little better at drinking less. Also I take kratom every day. I planned to not take kratom tommorow and see how it goes, probably should try not to drink too. It's just like I know that I am going to try and fill that hole with something else. Even if I don't take drugs it will be sex and video games and driving recklessly. I'll find something to do even though I don't know why I am doing it.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement] 2
#23697103 - 10/01/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've struggled with addiction since I was sixteen, by the time I was eighteen I discovered meth and heroin and by twenty I was a daily I.V user of both.
I eventually found myself being homeless and committing petty crimes to get my fix, lying and hunting everyone near and dear to me. I managed to escape the monkey a few years back and got clean off of both.
Back in January I relapsed and it caused a world of hurt for me, ended up doing some really stupid stuff and landed myself in jail. I've recently been sentenced to 18 months felony probation as a result of my idocracy and self neglegance.
I wasn't able to control myself so the state decided they'd do it for me. I have three days 100% clean and sober and am extremely deppresed, but I'm trying to find myself again and find happiness without the use of narcotics.
I'm sure I'll trip while on probation and would be lying if I said I wouldn't get high a few times but if I mess up probation it will effect the rest of my life.
Don't shoot meth and heroin kids, its bad for your soul.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TNK]
#23697149 - 10/01/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I got addicted to heroin when i was 17. Looking back, i used cannabis incredibly addictively from the age of 14.
Drugs were my solution to life for a while. They work very well at first, but then they become ineffective at fixing my depression and anxiety while simultaneously making me non-functional.
I kind of willingly went through with addiction at first, not understanding how much it ends up sucking. The highs become lackluster IME. I literally couldn't keep my anxiety in check at a certain point with benzos, alcohol, and heroin combined. My combo that i tried to get loaded on as much as possible every day was a multitude of benzos, lots of alcohol, heroin, cocaine, and hash oil.
I've been sober for 11 months now, and things have gotten much better. I'm no longer depressed. I still get anxious but it's far more manageable than when i was using, and i'm able to engage with life and progress with areas like school and art. Also my mom doesn't frequently cry in front of me and my sisters are no longer scared of me.
But even with all of these improvements, the pull of drugs is still there. I don't think the cravings will ever go away, but if i keep working hard i believe they can get better. Currently in the process of trying to quit nicotine and then caffeine, to further break the cycle of addictive use.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Memories]
#23697304 - 10/01/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Compulsive person, have been an addict of almost any drug under the sun. I find that I'm still unable to or seperate from drug use completely, but by substituting my heroin addiction with pot I've made my life much more open to opportunity.
The problem with heroin is that it stalls your development as an individual on all fronts. While you are under, you don't mature you don't tend to save money, or plan, or have goals aside from getting more heroin. My sex drive went completely out the door during my use, and that's starting to come back. Still I have days where I think about it fondly, but these days I do not act.
A big factor for quitting was seeing how much hell it put my mom through, and my brother and sister... really makes me upset to see them hurt for my decisions. I have a plan to stay off and that plan is to "put it off until tomorow". Which means as bad as I want dope I just tell myself "ok, tomorow" and repeat.
That's what makes or breaks an addict - do you have the balls to say no to yourself?
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: ModestMouse]
#23697326 - 10/01/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ehh, when I tell myself I'm going to get high tommorow, that is usually exactly what I do. I just try to keep my mind off it, and remember how unpleasant it is to sit and wait for drugs, how much of a let down they usually are, and how it sucks to have no money or tangible drive in life.
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TNK
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23697338 - 10/01/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Minus the Times I got sold bunk dope, heroin has never let me down lol.
I agree though, it's a terrible cycle of use then withdrawl and then the constant lying.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement]
#23697340 - 10/01/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nobody is addicted to drugs, they are addicted to escaping reality.
Reality, for most people, is an unbearable burden, whether they admit it or not.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TNK]
#23697343 - 10/01/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Plus the memories of shitting in a bucket and sleeping under a tree during the Pacific northwest wet season was pretty good reason to stop using.
That and the constant though of suicide because I couldn't go on anymore.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TNK]
#23697364 - 10/01/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheNatureKid said: Minus the Times I got sold bunk dope, heroin has never let me down lol.
I agree though, it's a terrible cycle of use then withdrawl and then the constant lying.
Really? I mean the rush is ok, but it's not all that it is cracked up to be IMO. Then I can't count the number of times 5 minutes later I am saying, I still feel like shit, I want more. Then I do more and I don't feel it then I wake up in descent to the ground a couple times and that's about it.
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: TheMovement]
#23697376 - 10/01/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I appreciate drugs and addiction. If you're being a baby and your having too many "problems" working out your issues then just drop it. Go read a fucking book. Learn something bitches.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: It's time to talk about addiction.. [Re: Love_spirit]
#23697381 - 10/01/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you drop it
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