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Re: Duterte: Human rights is 'anti-thesis' of government [Re: 404] 1
#23715432 - 10/07/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: I still can't wrap my head around how people on site continue to seemingly support this wretch.
Do you have any idea what the Philippines is like? I am just curious, since you seem to think you know what you're talking about.
Irrelevant and straw man, we are talking about human rights abuse here. people shouldn't be murdered for drug use.
I wonder how many have been killed at the hands of the crimimal underbelly.
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Re: Duterte: Human rights is 'anti-thesis' of government [Re: nuds]
#23717056 - 10/07/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: I still can't wrap my head around how people on site continue to seemingly support this wretch.
Do you have any idea what the Philippines is like? I am just curious, since you seem to think you know what you're talking about.
Irrelevant and straw man, we are talking about human rights abuse here. people shouldn't be murdered for drug use.
I wonder how many have been killed at the hands of the criminal underbelly.
A lot. But his graph speaks only to heroin deaths in the USA. Not an apples to apples comparison necessarily, but it makes a point.

To open this argument a bit wider. Bear in mind that the president and military take an oath to protect and defend against both foreign and domestic enemies. At what point does a heroin dealer become a domestic enemy and why should domestic enemy heroin dealers be treated with the same rights as I have if their business is the poisoning deaths of my fellow citizen?
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Re: Duterte: Human rights is 'anti-thesis' of government [Re: Ellis Dee]
#23717403 - 10/07/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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My response to your argument is that the people buying the heroin probably look at this graph and think "nice this means the heroin supply is more readily available and stronger than pre 2007'.
i don't do heroin anymore but i used to and an addict would look at this graph as a statistic and wonder how this affects their own personal habit. And what it probably means is they can score heroin more easily and it is more potent than it used to be.
It's certainly scary and i worry about my friends that shoot dope.
However the heroin dealer is a socially engineered terrorist to society then, created by the US government.
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Re: Duterte: Human rights is 'anti-thesis' of government [Re: Everything]
#23717795 - 10/07/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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all that chart says to me is that we should legalize it so the plots do the exact opposite like we've seen in the same drugs and different ones in places across the globe from colorado to portugal. no one really dies on opiods as a direct result of someone else's choice from the user unless it's cut with fent and the user didn't know before hand... however it'd still be their decision to use, and furhermore is another fundamental with the drug war itself. drug war = higher black market profits, more deaths, more use, more allure.
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Do you have any idea what the Philippines is like? I am just curious, since you seem to think you know what you're talking about.
Irrelevant and straw man, we are talking about human rights abuse here. people shouldn't be murdered for drug use.
I wonder how many have been killed at the hands of the crimimal underbelly.
another strawman, got any other logical fallacies you'd like to try? because this one's not suiting you well. you're justifying murder with murder, and neither are justifiable.
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Re: Duterte: Human rights is 'anti-thesis' of government [Re: 404]
#23718515 - 10/08/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: I still can't wrap my head around how people on site continue to seemingly support this wretch.
Do you have any idea what the Philippines is like? I am just curious, since you seem to think you know what you're talking about.
Irrelevant and straw man, we are talking about human rights abuse here. people shouldn't be murdered for drug use.
I wonder how many have been killed at the hands of the crimimal underbelly.
another strawman, got any other logical fallacies you'd like to try? because this one's not suiting you well. you're justifying murder with murder, and neither are justifiable.
It was but a simple musing.
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