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InvisibleNakhonPhanomDreams
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120-140 cc syringes
    #23696398 - 10/01/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm looking to inoculate some blue helix style bags. Where can I get syringes suitable for this?

What about suitable needle fit, is luer lok the only option or can I use other types?

Thanks!


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696434 - 10/01/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm thinking if you need a syringe that big, there's probably something inefficient about the process.  That or you're trying to go hard.  I guess what I'm wondering is why you don't just use 2-3 60cc syringes in place of this theoretical large one?  Could open them up to more diverse use when you have multiple projects going.

I don't think you would ever want a needle type other than luer lock though.  They withstand autoclaving and are modular, and washable.  The trick is finding the right gauge, obviously.  I've shopped around a bit and the availability greatly tapers off in either direction from 16ga.  14 helps a bit but even bigger would be preferable.

I did notice that you can find luer lock needles at places that sell vaping/e-cig stuff, so if you haven't been including those in your searches somehow, take a look.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23696451 - 10/01/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks search blue Helix tek for spawn bags if you care to know what I'm doing with them.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696484 - 10/01/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks search blue Helix tek for spawn bags if you care to know what I'm doing with them.



never heard of it and can't find shit about it. i'd advise you go a different route with better documentation from this site.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23696707 - 10/01/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Generally 4th grade research dictates you want to look for a paper trail of people with successful grows using the method you choose. Its time tested and peer reviewed, it stood the test of time. People still use it and say it's worth doing.

There's abundant pictures of people not failing at doing the TEK in question

Etc.. you know like basic research


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23696888 - 10/01/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not in the position where I want to learn how to make monotubs. I'm looking to learn about skipping the spawn stage and utilizing sterilized bulk substrate. From there I'll decide if it's worth doing or not.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696909 - 10/01/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: amidogen]
    #23696928 - 10/01/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I mean, monotubs and such are trivial.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: amidogen]
    #23696930 - 10/01/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4903105/fpart/all/vc/1

this tek??
'grow pounds of mushrooms' sounds good, right?


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696931 - 10/01/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I mean, monotubs and such are trivial.



:smugjerry:


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: mushboy]
    #23696935 - 10/01/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's the one


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696938 - 10/01/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 10:45 AM)


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: amidogen]
    #23696947 - 10/01/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

liquid culture to bulk substrate. grain is optional could be entirely manure or a mixture of things.

Look at the tek if you want to see the detailed process.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696965 - 10/01/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 10:45 AM)


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23696975 - 10/01/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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liquid culture to bulk substrate. grain is optional could be entirely manure or a mixture of things.

Look at the tek if you want to see the detailed process.



liquid cultures are like 10x more difficult than you think. definitely not "beginner friendly." if you are dead set on using this tek, I would highly advise you use LI instead of LC.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: amidogen]
    #23696983 - 10/01/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

True but if it worked then it will work now.

Also 1 20ish qt pressure cooker can fit 25lbs of wet substrate which is like 8+ dry.

Seems like this route would be the least amount of work to have that much colonized substrate, which is the main reason why I want to try it.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23696988 - 10/01/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

NakhonPhanomDreams said:
liquid culture to bulk substrate. grain is optional could be entirely manure or a mixture of things.

Look at the tek if you want to see the detailed process.



liquid cultures are like 10x more difficult than you think. definitely not "beginner friendly." if you are dead set on using this tek, I would highly advise you use LI instead of LC.




What exactly gives you an idea of what I think?


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23697023 - 10/01/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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True but if it worked then it will work now.





no offense but this is not the right attitude with a bulk grow.
growing bulk requires cleaner than clean spawn so you dont trash
pounds of substrate.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: mushboy]
    #23697036 - 10/01/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What's unclean about the tek?


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23697040 - 10/01/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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NakhonPhanomDreams said:
What's unclean about the tek?



whats your gameplan for making the lc?


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23697042 - 10/01/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because you're talking about doing bulk, but skipping a main step in the process. Like a Noob. We've all been noobs before, you know. This is destined to fail big time.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23697050 - 10/01/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

grain lc I've been using for the last couple months should work just fine.

or ive got a dozen healthy agar plates I can slurry in my eberbach blender.

I'm not asking how to make an lc. I'm looking for where to get these large syringes so I only need to inject into the bag once.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23697059 - 10/01/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

amazon has 100cc syringes.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: mushboy]
    #23697070 - 10/01/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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amazon has 100cc syringes.




I need luer lok and material that will survive the pressure cook


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: mushboy]
    #23697073 - 10/01/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sort of like going to war with a musket. It worked then it will work now. the avoiding of 50% contamination rates is why teks like that are not still being used.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23697096 - 10/01/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Sort of like going to war with a musket.




hahah. reminded me of romney telling obama our navy is small
and OB said 'we have fewer muskets and horses too' or something...

hahaha.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: mushboy]
    #23697354 - 10/01/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Reading all this reminds me of Devon420's posts lol


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23697372 - 10/01/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You were around for that?  Good times...


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23697377 - 10/01/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

YEah I was. I've never seen that before. Asks to be spoon fed, knows it all, and fuck you shroomery LOL


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23697683 - 10/01/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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YEah I was. I've never seen that before. Asks to be spoon fed, knows it all, and fuck you shroomery LOL





Spoon fed a source to buy unusually sized syringes? :P


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: NakhonPhanomDreams]
    #23700307 - 10/02/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thats not in reference to you dude. I'm not giving you a hard time. I'm talking about a member devon420 who would do that.


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Re: 120-140 cc syringes [Re: Inocuole]
    #23700496 - 10/02/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I buy my needle at a veterinary supply shop, they sell 14 gauge for cheap,
those one are indestructible.


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