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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Kickle]
    #23792422 - 11/01/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Freedom is not inert, it's not freedom "except" anything.
I have felt what you mean, it's some sort of excuse of the ego to keep holding on.
"if awakening is not how I like it, then I won't do it."
But it's not something you do, and you don't become a robot. :lol:
In fact, you can still do every single thing you do now.

Love and compassion is your nature.
If you let the ego die you will only feel patient compassion and universal love for everyone.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23792430 - 11/01/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Alan Watts said it best:

"I am always sincere, but never serious."


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23792446 - 11/01/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:
great response

I'm not sure how you get there without seeing a difference, but that's fantastic. I very clearly see differences in people. And I feel compassion towards some and not towards others as a result. It's interconnected as can be and nothing "I" am in control of. But it is perceived :shrug:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #23792468 - 11/01/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not sure how you get there without seeing a difference.



You will never "get" there you are already there.
The idea that it's somewhere else or you'll have to work to reach it, is a very clever trap or obstacle.
You don't see a difference, you are the seeing itself. :heart:

Nothing lay in your way except your ideas.
Ideas are seen, ego is seen, you are not seen.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23792482 - 11/01/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

not what I meant but ok :lol:
it's good you can point anything that way :thumbup:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Kickle]
    #23793233 - 11/01/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"God is not playing with you, God is playing as you."
-Mooji


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23793465 - 11/01/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
There is no objective reality, that is certain. Rip me to pieces, it is only imagination.





I would amend that to say that yes there is an objective reality, but at bottom it is equivalent to subjective reality.  The two are one.




I reckon this is a really important point that is usually overlooked. When it comes down to it it's almost like your choice of mask to wear.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: viktor]
    #23793958 - 11/02/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good point. :thumbup:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23799229 - 11/03/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tmethyl said:
"God is not playing with you, God is playing as you."
-Mooji





I call myself "gods lucid dream" just because of one time when I was mixing up some coir in waking reality and I got that same feeling you get when you become lucid in a dream. That has only happened to me once in my lifetime, but man oh man was it a powerful feeling.

I feel like each and every person on this planet is important, but the only way to truly find your importance is to look within to find that rising god which wants to speak through you. You might say god, well, I say GODS.

The truth is that each and everyone on this planet is connected to a rising god, but that does not make you god. What this makes you is an attachment of god with your own identity as that rising god.

If you look within and all you see is an unidentifiable piece of god within, then you have missed the point of being a beautiful piece of the creation which is you. If you cannot see that that thing within you is more than just a drop within the ocean, then you have missed the point.

I identify myself as Rhizo, for that is where my root is, but my name is David because that was my birth name. In essence, I am The Root of David, but the actual truth I have is going to be hard for many to believe.

I bet that if you are of something great, you yourself will find it in time, but until then, it is important to discover more and more truth around you and do your best to assimilate it to your own path.

Just my thoughts


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #23799325 - 11/03/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's so simple that you can go your whole life, or many lives, without ever bringing it into direct experience.
Whatever you see, you cannot be.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23799335 - 11/03/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's so simple that you can go your whole life, or many lives, without ever bringing it into direct experience.
Whatever you see, you cannot be.





Well, I see so many things that I can only put it into perspective that others around me might be able to understand. My truth is pretty deep, but I am sure you have a lot of your own truth as well. It is difficult when you see the world around you in a certain way, but understand it to be different by each and every person perceiving it.

I try and try, but that doesn't matter, because all in all I love every second of what I write. It's all about enjoyment man, that's why I write.

What I have found within has taken work, but at this point it is all just fun and throwing around a lot of information which may or may not speak to you.

I could care less if what I see I cannot be, for I know that what I sense all around has to be true. If I relied on one thing it would be delusion, but when all forms of sense align to portray one thing which you originally saw, then it must be true, right?


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #23801095 - 11/04/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

your all just plain old men, just like your neighbors.  stop taking drugs ya damn kids! scrambling your brain like eggs! Its not your level kiddo. Its not yours.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23801178 - 11/04/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lamastare:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23801571 - 11/04/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #23803400 - 11/05/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

To some degree I am. I'm aware our interpretation we all learn as children is vastly incorrect, But that's as far as it goes with me. I can abstract it all out somewhat like you did here, and you did a fine job! But I don't have much of an alternative way of thinking. So I just fall back to living as if the illusion is itself reality. It's safe to assume we perceive some patterns that exist in reality, and what we call our brains weave together a crude cartoon that is all we know. So it feels "real" and feels like our experiences are something like what things are really like out there, in our environment. But I know it's a cartoon. And people who are experts in physics don't have much of an inspiring alternative explanation of reality upon which to construct a better worldview. The best I can do is learn science, such as physiology, and it feels so abstract and piecemeal.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #23804151 - 11/05/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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To some degree I am. I'm aware our interpretation we all learn as children is vastly incorrect, But that's as far as it goes with me. I can abstract it all out somewhat like you did here, and you did a fine job! But I don't have much of an alternative way of thinking. So I just fall back to living as if the illusion is itself reality. It's safe to assume we perceive some patterns that exist in reality, and what we call our brains weave together a crude cartoon that is all we know. So it feels "real" and feels like our experiences are something like what things are really like out there, in our environment. But I know it's a cartoon. And people who are experts in physics don't have much of an inspiring alternative explanation of reality upon which to construct a better worldview. The best I can do is learn science, such as physiology, and it feels so abstract and piecemeal.




Incredibly stated. For a long time I swung between the states of just believing it was all real, randomly spiced with intense moments that it's all an illusion.
I would say that my current state is permanent(a stateless-state wherein all states arrive and depart), in that this entire life and the personal identity are in fact false; but beautifully so, nothing is wrong, this is the movie of consciousness. You play a character for a short duration, life goes on it's own, it doesn't need help. :heart:


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23804157 - 11/05/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dzogchen


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23804384 - 11/05/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everything must be an illusion because I highly doubt anything is permanent.  We just worship reality because things will last longer than us.  The sun was here before I and there are many stars that will outlast us.  We only hope to imagine what exists and can understand from one plain of existence to the next.  Even if understanding radically changes.


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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23806474 - 11/06/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're a part of the infinite. Once you figure that out. You will know you do exist.


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