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Tmethyl
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: yeah]
#23701806 - 10/02/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah said: yeah I'm on you're level.. whatever you say, boss...
I was hoping you'd come around. Welcome.
As to what I want you to do, please sit still. Close your eyes. You shouldn't be able to read this 3rd line, because your eyes are closed. If you've made it to the 4th line, you have disobeyed. If you've made it to the 5th line, well, that's impressive. 6th line, you are now the boss, boss.
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23701856 - 10/02/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Abandon the intellect which craves security in what is only a dream. When your finished please clean up after yourself. And its nice seeing the levels, turned on its side its one nice level level. level level level level level level level level level. Level.
-------------------- Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps
Edited by The Blind Ass (10/02/16 10:30 PM)
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yeah



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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23701880 - 10/02/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm bored of redpilling myself. People do it to me in real life now.
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mt cleverest
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Middleman]
#23702502 - 10/03/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah man his album is so good, better than painting with and I actually really like painting with.
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23702573 - 10/03/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: The level where you know there really are no levels, and levels along with all other psychological and conceptual phenomenon only exist in our brain organs, and that who we pretend to be cannot be what we are because we are seeing it. Our entire world is a projection of our inner states, and we, as "persons" don't have any sort of tangible existence; for example my name is Justin, but there is no Justin, there is this body and a psychological conditioning labeled Justin, and the witness of it.
And also to see the ego-filled paragraph above created by a fictional entity who has a desire to connect with someone who is perhaps experiencing the same thing, but all the while recognizing the utter meaninglessness of it, and the weakness of seeking acceptance and confirmation while remaining a "person" which is actually the thing I should be avoiding, not strengthening with further attachment. The operation of consciousness has created the ‘apparition’ called ‘me’.
If I was to say the truest thing I know, I will say that I am a ghost.
But was it supposed to be like this? Are you meant to identify with the instrument and pretend to be it?
"When the various rivers flow into the great Ocean They lose their individual names and become Ocean only. When the raindrop is falling towards the Ocean, It may experience some fear. But when it touches the Ocean, can it tell the story Of this meeting?"
"Something brought you here. Something inside is delighted to be reminded – you are nobody."
"Attempting to identify with the source is an idea. You are already that."
-Mooji
yes, i have let myself experience all of this
but I am convinced that unless you are in a "special place" as mooji would say or live like the Buddha for example prescribed
unless you set up your circumstances for a life that is conducive to such a view then your circumstances will demand more from you at least in terms of your thinking.
one can be this without thinking about it of course
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Tmethyl
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Kickle]
#23703192 - 10/03/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kickle, no matter where we go, there we are. All movement seems to take place in mind, and all movement is witnessed by something without quality or movement. That witness is unborn and without location it seems.
If you can't be who you really are, right where you are right now, than you're still identified with a fictional identity, no?
The 'doer' of all the things you've ever done was seen, so you can't even be the one who does things, so doing more things is just escapism. Gaining more knowledge is just procrastination. Thinking that it's somewhere in the future, or that you're getting closer is just a dream.
Maybe it could be so simple? So simple that most will never even look.
Someone once said: "What you are looking for, is where you are looking from."
There is no way. A "way" is movement of the mind, moving in consciousness. Like a wave rising on the surface of the ocean says "I am a wave". Like the screen a movie projects onto, remains a screen during and after the movie, unaffected by the happenings on the screen. Even death, even seeking, even sadness.
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23705562 - 10/04/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: The level where you know there really are no levels, and levels along with all other psychological and conceptual phenomenon only exist in our brain organs, and that who we pretend to be cannot be what we are because we are seeing it. Our entire world is a projection of our inner states, and we, as "persons" don't have any sort of tangible existence; for example my name is Justin, but there is no Justin, there is this body and a psychological conditioning labeled Justin, and the witness of it.
And also to see the ego-filled paragraph above created by a fictional entity who has a desire to connect with someone who is perhaps experiencing the same thing, but all the while recognizing the utter meaninglessness of it, and the weakness of seeking acceptance and confirmation while remaining a "person" which is actually the thing I should be avoiding, not strengthening with further attachment. The operation of consciousness has created the ‘apparition’ called ‘me’.
If I was to say the truest thing I know, I will say that I am a ghost.
But was it supposed to be like this? Are you meant to identify with the instrument and pretend to be it?
"When the various rivers flow into the great Ocean They lose their individual names and become Ocean only. When the raindrop is falling towards the Ocean, It may experience some fear. But when it touches the Ocean, can it tell the story
Of this meeting?"
"Something brought you here. Something inside is delighted to be reminded – you are nobody."
"Attempting to identify with the source is an idea. You are already that."
-Mooji
Yes but it is a secret Dr Jekel
Sorry too cryptic anyway yes i am and have . Your first sentence is true there are no levels.
-------------------- R.I.P Zombi3, Blue Helix Modest Mouse Zappa Slothie That Kid With The face ShLong Le Canard split_by_nine & Big Worm Forever Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many
Edited by Seriously_trippin (10/04/16 12:44 AM)
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The level system is scaling and referential
Those who take arms are at the disadvantage because they strive for victory while the defender can accept attacks and riposte
xX3dGel0rdXx
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23706110 - 10/04/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm with ya T. Everything beyond "it is" is created by us. And the closer we try to look, or judge and define, the more we mix it up and create "levels" and other funny human definitions.
Just watching, everything is so easy and obvious and perfect and one.
I guess it's kinda like seeing the big picture all at once, or trying to zoom in and identify all the particles or mini links in the infinite fractal, and define their role in the grand view.
The more answers I seek, the more fuss I create in my mind, and infinite questions can arise. Gotta reel myself in sometimes
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Tmethyl
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Universaleyeni said: The more answers I seek, the more fuss I create in my mind, and infinite questions can arise. Gotta reel myself in sometimes 

Yes, because seeking implies you're not already that. The one who seeks is seen. The one who is seeking is keeping you from being true. All fuss of the mind is witnessed by you. Whatever you can see, cannot be you. Like a knife that can cut so many things, but cannot cut itself.
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23723035 - 10/09/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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My ego is attached to my body. My body can be imprisoned and scarred and has been such.
There are levels of intoxication. There are levels of poor health. There are levels of wealth.
I wish there were measurements of success in spiritual life. For that I'm going to have to die to know or just not exist.
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23726562 - 10/10/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think there might be an essential chaos to your posting about levels in general..can you think it possible to sort all of the levels in your life..in a way that is satisfactory to you alone..? Because if you do you will likely find Highest level in and of itself..
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I don't think there are levels but perhaps depth. There is no level up. Sure life can give you a boost or knock ya right back down. But there is no levels of personal development. That's for a doctor that wants to be famous, rich and author some sort of loony toons program for personal development.
Level requires quantity in how I understand. There could be levels to biology but it's going to be man made lines in quantity. There is no upper level of heaven or lower realm of hell. There is depth to personal inquiry.
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23730002 - 10/12/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it is of the essence to simply be 'on the level' with everyone, which is to say be honest. Being honest is being ethical, being ethical is being virtuous, being virtuous is being compassionate, being compassionate is manifesting wisdom, and lo - we're all sitting atop virtual mountain peaks.
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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I question your level. I question weather or not you DID infact question your level. I Question The level that is you, Not pertaining to, you. I question ur ability to know your level. I question if you even have a level. I question your Answer already.
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: littleton]
#23734384 - 10/13/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I question whether you know how to address the correct intended recipient of your posts.
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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Tmethyl
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23737505 - 10/14/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LoL, Levels are Grades or Gradients...which can indeed reflect the Jachin and Boaz..or otherwise the walk away hall way aspect of forgiveness...and the deep impressing code of Binah..or otherwise darkness...which is a sublime sheet of paper..or otherwise fabric of existence...so the brow goes to the darkness..which can encode anything..and that's a pin..or needle point..which represents precision..so the idea of levels..is to be precise...but the idea of no levels at all..is indeed either a noble order...or a benefacting chaos...or even mortal sin...as pure nihilism..but a stage in learning and understanding is indeed a stage in learning and understanding.. I Believe Markos has it right when he asks what your true perception of your level is...
Do you think you can get higher than this level you speak of..or do i dare say..
Do you think you can get any lower?
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BrendanFlock said: LoL, Levels are Grades or Gradients...which can indeed reflect the Jachin and Boaz..or otherwise the walk away hall way aspect of forgiveness...and the deep impressing code of Binah..or otherwise darkness...which is a sublime sheet of paper..or otherwise fabric of existence...so the brow goes to the darkness..which can encode anything..and that's a pin..or needle point..which represents precision..so the idea of levels..is to be precise...but the idea of no levels at all..is indeed either a noble order...or a benefacting chaos...or even mortal sin...as pure nihilism..but a stage in learning and understanding is indeed a stage in learning and understanding.. I Believe Markos has it right when he asks what your true perception of your level is...
Do you think you can get higher than this level you speak of..or do i dare say..
Do you think you can get any lower?
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Re: Anyone on my level? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23745404 - 10/17/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: The level where you know there really are no levels, and levels along with all other psychological and conceptual phenomenon only exist in our brain organs, and that who we pretend to be cannot be what we are because we are seeing it. Our entire world is a projection of our inner states, and we, as "persons" don't have any sort of tangible existence; for example my name is Justin, but there is no Justin, there is this body and a psychological conditioning labeled Justin, and the witness of it.
And also to see the ego-filled paragraph above created by a fictional entity who has a desire to connect with someone who is perhaps experiencing the same thing, but all the while recognizing the utter meaninglessness of it, and the weakness of seeking acceptance and confirmation while remaining a "person" which is actually the thing I should be avoiding, not strengthening with further attachment. The operation of consciousness has created the ‘apparition’ called ‘me’.
If I was to say the truest thing I know, I will say that I am a ghost.
But was it supposed to be like this? Are you meant to identify with the instrument and pretend to be it?
"When the various rivers flow into the great Ocean They lose their individual names and become Ocean only. When the raindrop is falling towards the Ocean, It may experience some fear. But when it touches the Ocean, can it tell the story Of this meeting?"
"Something brought you here. Something inside is delighted to be reminded – you are nobody."
"Attempting to identify with the source is an idea. You are already that."
-Mooji
Great post and your replies made perfect sense to me too.
I consider myself split. I'm both the avatar and the higher self observing the avatar. Admittedly the avatar can be more domininant and vice versa.
Knowing that we are one with everyone else, I can sometimes pick out advice we're about to give, yet withdraw it, realizing it's actually for the (local) self.
I've realised my life has whittled down to four particular people who represent myself in high concentration.
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