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Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK?
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what's up with that??
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Eminence]
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Paedophile rings are, imo, largely a by product of public boarding schools.
Wealthy parents send their children to institutions where the early introduction of 'fagging,' where the older boys make the younger students their 'personal servants' is endemic, and will often cross over into sexual exploitation, which in some instances will become entrenched in the behaviour of the individual and carried into adult life.
Many of the masters in such institutions would themselves have gone through the public school system, and so 'turn a blind eye' to the shenanigans among the students. They likely have their 'favourites' among the older boys, to whom they will give certain privilages,who will in return identify susceptible younger students to introduce to the masters, setting up lifelong relationships, or "Paedophile rings", in which information is spread via the interwebs.
Then there's the Catholic boys being sent to choir practice by their parents with the admonition, "now you do what the father tells you" ringing in their ears. What hope for those boys that just happen to fall within the purview of some paedophile priest.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
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Tmethyl said: The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. 
I have to question whether things such as virtual media pedophilia or child sex dolls would actually prevent pedophilia IRL. Seems like it would actually make the desire stronger, and it would in fact encourage such desires more. As these desires become more and more natural to the user, there would be a reinforcing and self-affirming effect. If it reinforces and encourages the child sex fantasy, one could argue that it would therefore make one more likely to commit pedophilia.
I mean, saying that access to child pornography would reduce one's likelihood of committing child sex crimes seems like a rather asinine and far-fetched statement to make, doesn't it? Studies seem to indicate that it increases recidivism rates, not the opposite.
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Most importantly, after controlling for general and specific risk factors for sexual aggression, pornography added significantly to the prediction of recidivism. Statistical interactions indicated that frequency of pornography use was primarily a risk factor for higher-risk offenders, when compared with lower-risk offenders, and that content of pornography (i.e., pornography containing deviant content) was a risk factor for all groups.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18307171
Kind of like how sex offenders almost always start out stealing underwear or as peeping toms or committing some other petty crime, or how serial killers always practice on animals before moving on to humans. Seems like there's a stepping stone type of effect when it comes to increasing the gravity of crime.
For sure stigma against pedophiles should decrease however, if only so that it makes them easier and brave enough to seek help.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G] 2
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Is a pedophile ring like a mood ring?
Does it change color based on the tier of jailbait within proximity?
This would be a great idea for sex offenders. Like a 16-17 year old around the ring tightens around the finger, a 13-15 year old the ring starts to mildly cut off circulation and vibrate loudly, under 12 it starts beeping while doing all of the above.....and when a baby is close it starts electrocuting the pedo until he is 1000 feet away.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: Kind of like how sex offenders almost always start out stealing underwear or as peeping toms or committing some other petty crime, or how serial killers always practice on animals before moving on to humans. Seems like there's a stepping stone type of effect when it comes to increasing the gravity of crime.
For sure stigma against pedophiles should decrease however, if only so that it makes them easier and brave enough to seek help.
I suppose, by this 'monkey see, monkey do' reasoning we're to believe that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was a fan of Death Race 2000 and that's why there was so many people killed on the roads in the 70's, or was there. 
I'd prefer the police to partially open up their data bases so that paedophiles, or others, interested in this sort of material can sign up with them for access, effectively putting themselves on a 'vitual paedophile register' while also giving them access to 'help lines' should they want it, to help them stop their perverse thinking. This could possibly undermine the black market in the material by making it unprofitable. A bit like giving junkies legal access to their junk would reduce their need to commit crime to obtain it.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: deucedbi9]
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deucedbi9 said: I'd prefer the police to partially open up their data bases so that paedophiles, or others, interested in this sort of material can sign up with them for access, effectively putting themselves on a 'vitual paedophile register' while also giving them access to 'help lines' should they want it, to help them stop their perverse thinking. This could possibly undermine the black market in the material by making it unprofitable. A bit like giving junkies legal access to their junk would reduce their need to commit crime to obtain it.
I don't know how effective that would be. As long as child sex dolls are available and can be bought online for cheap, I don't see why anybody couldn't simply circumvent the registry by ordering such things off such foreign websites, or even the dark web. As for making virtual child porn accessible via a pedophile registry, it might register some pedophiles who are not particularly internet-savvy (much like the users who use I-Tunes instead of downloading their music)... but we all know how easily porn can be pirated and then spread and distributed illegally. I would venture to say that most viewers of pornography are using pirated or free content, and not registering and paying for it.
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I suppose, by this 'monkey see, monkey do' reasoning we're to believe that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was a fan of Death Race 2000 and that's why there was so many people killed on the roads in the 70's, or was there. 
It's not so simple. There are many motives and reasons one have for committing a heinous crime, and in the case of Mohamed one could argue that he had political motive, a personal vendetta, or some other personal sadistic intent that caused him to carry out his actions.
In the case of pedophilia, there is only one reason somebody would have sex with a child, and that is because of sexual desire. Therefore, the debate over whether virtual pornography or child sex dolls can increase or decrease this sexual desire, is of grave importance.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Progressive ideology has recently suggested that pedophilia is natural and ok, you will only see more of this in the mainstream as progressives gain control
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hostileuniverse said: Progressive ideology has recently suggested that pedophilia is natural and ok, you will only see more of this in the mainstream as progressives gain control
Congrats for turning something non-political into a political issue. This isn't a political issue.
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ur a political issue
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
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Tmethyl said: The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. 
you were so close but not even
it's because man has decided it's time to legislate away millions of years of human evolution.
you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: hostileuniverse] 2
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Horseshit. I'm a fairly progressive individual & I think the penalty for molesting kids should be stiffer. Hurting a child is one of the most despicable things a person can do.....and anyone that does so should never see the light of day again.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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No, I know plenty of people with progressive views. Every last one despises pedophiles.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: deucedbi9]
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Dark_Star said: Hurting a child is one of the most despicable things a person can do.....and anyone that does so should never see the light of day again.
This is how I feel. Any harm inflicted upon a child is 100x worse than that same harm being inflicted upon an adult IMO.
As for the topic at hand, I feel deucedbi9 nailed it:
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deucedbi9 said: Paedophile rings are, imo, largely a by product of public boarding schools.
Wealthy parents send their children to institutions where the early introduction of 'fagging,' where the older boys make the younger students their 'personal servants' is endemic, and will often cross over into sexual exploitation, which in some instances will become entrenched in the behaviour of the individual and carried into adult life.
Many of the masters in such institutions would themselves have gone through the public school system, and so 'turn a blind eye' to the shenanigans among the students. They likely have their 'favourites' among the older boys, to whom they will give certain privilages,who will in return identify susceptible younger students to introduce to the masters, setting up lifelong relationships, or "Paedophile rings", in which information is spread via the interwebs.
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Tmethyl said: The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. 
you were so close but not even
it's because man has decided it's time to legislate away millions of years of human evolution.
you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws
Woah Pris..I'm not sure pedophilia is in our nature..ephebophilia, okay, but pedophilia..no.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Dark_Star] 1
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Dark_Star said: No, I know plenty of people with progressive views. Every last one despises pedophiles.
I consider myself progressive in thought, but a flaw of mine is how I view pedos.
For example, my family asked me out to eat with them a while ago, supposedly one of the people in attendance was a family friends nephew who was a pedo, he got in trouble too so was legit pedo not just rumored. I would not go based on that alone, and told my family that I don't think I would be able to meet someone, shake their hand and smile knowing what they were, and I didn't know if I could keep my mouth shut and not say some things which might embarrass my family.
I am sure this is a flaw, but it's how I feel.
Something just seems so wrong because pedos take something innocent like a child, and the negative impact their actions can have on that child, can fuck the kids head up for the rest of their life, that's fucking twisted man.
Pedophilia is one of the things which enrages me, like I feel genuine rage in my chest which spreads to my limbs and I start feeling shaky from rage building up (adrenaline), like I said this is a flaw of mine because I don't feel like having such rage is beneficial to my being. I literally feel like a wild animal, all reason gets pushed aside, and I am consumed with anger.
I hope there is a hell, and pedos will go there and get ass raped by legions of demons.
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Dark_Star said: Horseshit. I'm a fairly progressive individual & I think the penalty for molesting kids should be stiffer. Hurting a child is one of the most despicable things a person can do.....and anyone that does so should never see the light of day again.
ok, so that's one out of 80 million
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/ http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/21664-shocking-times-movement-for-pedophile-rights-marches-on http://www.progressivestoday.com/go-criminal-psychologist-suggests-pedophilia-sexual-orientation/ http://theralphretort.com/the-sjw-backed-push-to-make-pedophilia-mainstream-picks-up-steam-1026015/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/21/heres-why-the-progressive-left-keeps-sticking-up-for-pedophiles/

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Aneqdotal evidence is not evidence,
As pris proved, progressives are more and more embracing the doctrine that pedophiles push
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deucedbi9 said: I'd prefer the police to partially open up their data bases so that paedophiles, or others, interested in this sort of material can sign up with them for access, effectively putting themselves on a 'vitual paedophile register' while also giving them access to 'help lines' should they want it, to help them stop their perverse thinking. This could possibly undermine the black market in the material by making it unprofitable. A bit like giving junkies legal access to their junk would reduce their need to commit crime to obtain it.
Giving junkies heroin is not the same as making material available that documents sexual exploitation of children.
Heroin isn't a person.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Memories]
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I mean imagine if we told police they had to let a bunch of child molesters come in and examine their evidence so that they didn't rape more children it would make for some funny scenarios. Maybe we should accommodate that as a society.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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i hate liz said: what's up with that??

Because the UK is a horrible miserable place full of sketchy kids who stab each other, crazy drunks, xenophobes and pretty much no legal psychoactive substances besides caffeine, alcohol and nicotine.
They were the shoplifting capitol of europe before they split off. Im not the slightest bit surprised there are so many pedophilies there. The weather is fucking aweful and once in scottland i saw a pub that had banned sports colours. I have no dout its because they start gang fights and kick eachother's asses over football teams.
And perhaps the worst of all besides the pedophiles, google grit weed. That is from the UK and thinking about it scares me.
There are lots of good things about the UK though its awesome there but it also sucks in alot of ways. For instance.i had a great time in Scottland especially visiting the small island communities and i love the shows little brittan and misfits. Louis theroux is also one of my favourite documentarians.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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You can't just make large sweeping generalizations about a country where you've personally spent time and got to know it.
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Yeah, but, TBH, as a resident of 20+ years, I think he's got a pretty accurate assessment of the place going there..
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Tmethyl said: The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. 
you were so close but not even
it's because man has decided it's time to legislate away millions of years of human evolution.
you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws
Are you implying that pedophilia is natural--as in, sexual desire for children before puberty? Because the last time I was attracted to a child was when I was also a child.
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The Greeks were into it. Older men would frequently have pederastic relationships with young boys.
I would think ephebophilia is more common, but pedophilia has definitely been occurring for thousands of years, if not longer. (most likely longer)
That being said, the fact that pedophilia is a natural and long standing occurrence doesn't mean it should be an accepted practice, as it can be harmful to one of the parties involved.
I think the case for ephebophilia being accepted is stronger. Not to say it doesn't have good reasons to be prohibited as well.
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Exactly rape and murder are natural. But they shouldnt be considered ok. Rapists should be euthanuzed.
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Tmethyl said: The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing. It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion. Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse. Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children. Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. 
you were so close but not even
it's because man has decided it's time to legislate away millions of years of human evolution.
you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws
Are you implying that pedophilia is natural--as in, sexual desire for children before puberty? Because the last time I was attracted to a child was when I was also a child.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Tmethyl said: You must've been a really horny kid.
? I was under the impression that it was natural for children to have sexual urges, people like to think that children are innocent and asexual bur they're not. They have sexual urges and thoughts even as toddlers. Didn't any of you have crushes on other kids as little children?
I was about 10 by the time I could even admit to myself mentally that I liked girls. Yeah, some kids are actually not that sexual...
I mean I had crushes but I guess they weren't that bad. And I totally resisted them for whatever reason.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Memories]
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Memories said: The Greeks were into it. Older men would frequently have pederastic relationships with young boys.
I would think ephebophilia is more common, but pedophilia has definitely been occurring for thousands of years, if not longer. (most likely longer)
This exists in Afghanistan and parts of the Middle East today too, "bacha bazi boys" that are sold for sex in Afghanistan, owning one is seen as a symbol of wealth and status. But this tells me it's cultural, it doesn't suggest that it's natural to me.
Being attracted to teenagers, like okay, that makes sense. But little kids before they hit puberty? I really have to question how natural that desire is.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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I'm with Crystal on this. Even from a young age, I saw girls my age and thought they were beautiful. Oh, I remember when my cousins distant family came up from Spain, and oh, I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. I didn't know what it was, and I wouldn't call it sexual because I wouldn't have known what those feelings were then, but it was attraction.
England has been in the news a lot for it because it goes all the way to the top. It's just as rampant in any other country, I've been told in Belgium there was a notorious child abuse ring in the early 90's and it's brushed under the carpet. Most of my relatives won't talk about it, but I know a guy there who's daughter was taken away, the prosecution team against him were the defense team protecting the Belgian royal family and various other highups during that 90's scandal.
 Jimmy with his knighthood for services to the country (hur hur)
 Of course, Jimmy did a lot of work for charity, especially childrens charities.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Visionary Tools]
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"Only one out of 80-million kids who gets molested cares about it" - actual quote by Pedophile#1
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Tmethyl said: You must've been a really horny kid.
? I was under the impression that it was natural for children to have sexual urges, people like to think that children are innocent and asexual but they're not. They have sexual urges and thoughts even as toddlers. Didn't any of you have crushes on other kids as little children?
I have no memory of interest or desire in any sort of sexual sort, or even feeling any kind of attraction to another human being of either sex until around age twelve. At age 13 I was seduced by a neighbor girl who laid it all out for me, and it almost made me puke it felt so wrong, I basically just left. But by age 14 I was fucking 4 or 5 times a day with my GF.
I have heard about cases of sexual activity in young females on several occasions(especially from concerned parents), even my current GF was having lesbian scissor action with her BFF at 4 or 5 years old, strange stuff.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: They're farming food for the lizard people, a.k.a. The Royal Family
this, from what ive seen/read theres maybe one actual ring and the rest is the media going into a ratings feeding frenzy.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
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i used to be horny an get boners since i was like 7 or some shit
that being said if some weird old dude molested me as a little kid it prolly woulda ruined my brain or sumthin
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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what the hell is a pedophile ring?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
#23702111 - 10/03/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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totally new concept to me
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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Do you really wanna know? Or do you want to go back to enjoying Disneyland?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Memories said: The Greeks were into it. Older men would frequently have pederastic relationships with young boys.
I would think ephebophilia is more common, but pedophilia has definitely been occurring for thousands of years, if not longer. (most likely longer)
This exists in Afghanistan and parts of the Middle East today too, "bacha bazi boys" that are sold for sex in Afghanistan, owning one is seen as a symbol of wealth and status. But this tells me it's cultural, it doesn't suggest that it's natural to me.
Being attracted to teenagers, like okay, that makes sense. But little kids before they hit puberty? I really have to question how natural that desire is.
How can something be cultural, especially spanning many cultures, but not natural?
What is your criterion for something being considered natural?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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Maybe a better question is, why are there so many pedophiles period?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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Am i debating to much for the pub? lol
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Memories]
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piss off.
On topic: All pedophiles should be put to death. It is not a sexual preference, or a handicap, or a disease, or a natural part of humanity. It is completely vile and evil. It destroys lives.
Any person who is capable of harming a child like that just because of their sexual urges does not deserve life, and is not a human being we should tolerate in our societies.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Turtletotem]
#23702492 - 10/03/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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and the drug addicts to, or anyone that's had anything to do with drug addicts. It's not a handicap or a disease or a natural part of humanity.
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Humanity is a barbaric, violent, compassionate, loving, caring, callous, evil, good species. It's capacity for good and evil knows no bounds. So, our nature encompasses child rape, people ODing on heroin when they get stuff that's not cut, as well as those willing and able to heal so the survivors of atrocity can enjoy what remains of their life.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: chulutu]
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Eminence said: They're farming food for the lizard people, a.k.a. The Royal Family
this, from what ive seen/read theres maybe one actual ring and the rest is the media going into a ratings feeding frenzy.
Wait, what? I was joking, lol is this an actual conspiracy theory?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Eminence]
#23702885 - 10/03/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Perhaps it's not that there is more pedo rings in the UK. Perhaps its just that the police taskforce in charge of getting them is more efficient than those from other countries.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said: i used to be horny an get boners since i was like 7 or some shit
that being said if some weird old dude molested me as a little kid it prolly woulda ruined my brain or sumthin
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Perhaps it's not that there is more pedo rings in the UK. Perhaps its just that the police taskforce in charge of getting them is more efficient than those from other countries.
That's true, in many third world countries it's culturally acceptable for adults and children to have sexual relations.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: qman]
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I remember reading about babies getting raped in Africa during the Civil war some years back.
I don't know how anybody could get off to fucking a baby while it's probably screaming and crying it's head off...
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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In some countries in Africa rapists often get punished by having a sharp stick shoved up their ass, the stick gets stood upright and the fucker slides down the pole until he's completely impaled (usually through the shoulder or something so it takes a while to die).
I bet that would deter a few ped rings
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Pedophilia among elites (politicians etc) is partly to create blackmail leverage over people-
Basically if you want to enter the elite inner circle of power they require you to fuck kids so that forever after you have to do whatever they say because they have that blackmail hanging over you.
They won't allow you to have high level power unless you do something that they can hold over you.
Once you fuck a kid you can't ever defy them or try to expose them.
Because you all have done it, it forces a sinister kind of cooperation.
It's a vile way of showing you are a "team player" who will follow the program.
It's a form of initiation.
Once you do it you are "one of us" and can never go rogue .
They don't want anyone in the elite inner circle who will let morals or conscience get in the way.
So they make sure you are a soulless sociopath like they are.
How do they weed out the non sociopaths ?
By making you rape a child .
This is hideous evil, and sadly it is very true and very common, especially in the UK.
Top level bankers , judges, generals and politicians have been through this infernal initiation.
It's the same principle behind how gangs make a prospective member kill a random innocent person in order to "earn" admission into the gang.
When you all share a vile crime it builds an enforced solidarity among self serving sociopaths who can't otherwise be prevented from backstabbing and betraying each other.
How do you make people with no morals cooperate?
Blackmail and the shared experience of committing an unforgivable crime together.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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that's very disturbing and I wouldn't doubt it one bit
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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It's the stone cold truth. I would be highly skeptical of anyone who tells you differently.
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Because fucking kids is the only thing that can ruin your career/life.
That's the most retarded shit I've ever heard.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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Nambla would not like this post. I agree with anyone who says that people who do evil things to children should be subject to some sort of violelence. Defenseless children should NOT be subject to a traumatic event such as an encounter with a pedophile.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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It's Satanic Ritual Initiation. It's not the only form of Satanic Ritual Initiation, but it's the one that ruling elites are particularly into.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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Hasn't SRA been compared to witch-hunts?
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Moonshoe said: Pedophilia among elites (politicians etc) is partly to create blackmail leverage over people-
Basically if you want to enter the elite inner circle of power they require you to fuck kids so that forever after you have to do whatever they say because they have that blackmail hanging over you.
They won't allow you to have high level power unless you do something that they can hold over you.
Once you fuck a kid you can't ever defy them or try to expose them.
Because you all have done it, it forces a sinister kind of cooperation.
It's a vile way of showing you are a "team player" who will follow the program.
It's a form of initiation.
Once you do it you are "one of us" and can never go rogue .
They don't want anyone in the elite inner circle who will let morals or conscience get in the way.
So they make sure you are a soulless sociopath like they are.
How do they weed out the non sociopaths ?
By making you rape a child .
This is hideous evil, and sadly it is very true and very common, especially in the UK.
Top level bankers , judges, generals and politicians have been through this infernal initiation.
It's the same principle behind how gangs make a prospective member kill a random innocent person in order to "earn" admission into the gang.
When you all share a vile crime it builds an enforced solidarity among self serving sociopaths who can't otherwise be prevented from backstabbing and betraying each other.
How do you make people with no morals cooperate?
Blackmail and the shared experience of committing an unforgivable crime together.
This is some serious conspiracy theory allegations...
Who is "they," and are you implying that everybody who is in power has gone through this initiation process? Where? At Harvard?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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PeyoteZen said: You can remain naive to this if you want to. It's actually easier that way.
Apparently it's too much from neo-conservatives to ask for proof or elaboration. Believing in something without any evidence whatsoever is a fool's game. Then again you believe Obama was born in Kenya and his mother was a porn star so I forget exactly who it is I'm talking to.
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My posts in that thread were partially for entertainment purposes. And I believe it's possible that his Hawaii birth certificate is a forgery...which is pretty reasonable. A lot more reasonable than believing 100% that he was born there just because there's a photo of a document that says so.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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No not everyone.
This is absolutely fact and has actually been exposed already , it's not speculation.
If you want to go down a dark rabbit hole research it.
It's not conspiracy theory it's conspiracy fact.
A second explanation is also true- a certain percentage of men crave sex with children but the law prevents them from acting on it.
The rich and powerful elites have the power and the resources to act on these dark fantasies and thus child rape is more common among the elites than average people.
They simply have enough money and power to circumvent legal restraints that would stop less powerful pedophiles from acting on their compulsions.
Also, the structure of competitive power hierarchies favors those with sociopathic characteristics as morality is a disadvantage in cut throat competition.
Therefore amoral psychopaths tend to be disproportionately common at the highest level of power, as you have to be ruthless and compassionless to rise to the top in politics or corporations.
Therefore, it's not surprising that child rape is much more common among the super elites than the regular population .
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
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I definitely believe that child sex rings are used among elites who have the resources and money to buy people as slaves. That is a known fact. There are hundreds of thousands of children that go missing every year in the USA, and it's very likely that a significant percentage of them are being trafficked and sold into sex slavery.
But you are stating that these elites are forced to do it through some kind of initiation ritual in order to become powerful and famous. Which is a very bold statement to make without any evidence. You never even specified who "they" is, as in, the people who are orchestrating these rituals and are apparently in charge of who comes to power.
All I'm asking for is some clarification.
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Moonshoe said: Pedophilia among elites (politicians etc) is partly to create blackmail leverage over people-
Basically if you want to enter the elite inner circle of power they require you to fuck kids so that forever after you have to do whatever they say because they have that blackmail hanging over you.
They won't allow you to have high level power unless you do something that they can hold over you.
Once you fuck a kid you can't ever defy them or try to expose them.
Because you all have done it, it forces a sinister kind of cooperation.
It's a vile way of showing you are a "team player" who will follow the program.
It's a form of initiation.
Once you do it you are "one of us" and can never go rogue .
They don't want anyone in the elite inner circle who will let morals or conscience get in the way.
So they make sure you are a soulless sociopath like they are.
How do they weed out the non sociopaths ?
By making you rape a child .
This is hideous evil, and sadly it is very true and very common, especially in the UK.
Top level bankers , judges, generals and politicians have been through this infernal initiation.
It's the same principle behind how gangs make a prospective member kill a random innocent person in order to "earn" admission into the gang.
When you all share a vile crime it builds an enforced solidarity among self serving sociopaths who can't otherwise be prevented from backstabbing and betraying each other.
How do you make people with no morals cooperate?
Blackmail and the shared experience of committing an unforgivable crime together.
Sounds like something you made up completely
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G] 1
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First of all, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. So lets get that part straight.
And what you are asking for is very hard evidence to come by. They go to great lengths to ensure that such tangible and easily interpreted evidence is never uncovered. Most of our 'evidence' is circumstantial and corroborated by testimony, most of which is simply explained away and the accusers discredited as being crazy or lying. It sounds like you won't be convinced until you see the smoking gun, like hidden camera footage or a tape recording of some elite round table where all of this is discussed and admitted openly. You'll be forever in the dark if this is your criteria for believing it...sorry to say.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott] 1
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there is no Satanic ritual nonsense...literally, this is what happens....
"ok, blah blah see ya" *everyone walks away*
*senator opens the latch to his coke box*
"ahhh"
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"ahhh"
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"Judy, would you send her up please."
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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PeyoteZen said: First of all, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. So lets get that part straight.
And what you are asking for is very hard evidence to come by. They go to great lengths to ensure that such tangible and easily interpreted evidence is never uncovered. Most of our 'evidence' is circumstantial and corroborated by testimony, most of which is simply explained away and the accusers discredited as being crazy or lying. It sounds like you won't be convinced until you see the smoking gun, like hidden camera footage or a tape recording of some elite round table where all of this is discussed and admitted openly. You'll be forever in the dark if this is your criteria for believing it...sorry to say.
"the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." Ermmm, what. If you have absolutely no evidence to support a theory, such as Obama being born in Kenya, then you are believing in something in spite of any evidence whatsoever. You are basically believing rumor, conjecture, and this is exactly how urban legends get started.
If witness testimony exists, then it's not absence of evidence. Witness testimony is still one type of evidence.
Where is this witness testimony, and who is saying it? How credible is this person?
Usually when people research or investigate claims, they are able to identify exactly who "they" is, as in who these people are in power who are orchestrating these events. They are able to pinpoint where these initiation processes take place, such as in the Skull & Bones society of Harvard just as an example.
Without these details, they are just completely arbitrary and ambiguous claims.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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i'm saying that it's literally, "i like money, and i like the most aberrant, sadistic place to put my putz."
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
#23704091 - 10/03/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nobody is forced to do it.
They choose to do it in order to be granted access to certain exclusive , secretive elite circles.
There have been several huge cases of this nature that were exposed.
I can at some point look up and quote the relevant sources here.
To be honest, however, I prefer not to spend any time dwelling on such spiritually toxic matters.
I am on my phone And it's not convenient for me to provide Sources at the moment , and to be honest I'm not comfortable entering the search terms into Google I would need to bring up the sources.
I dont like to dwell on these matters and I already know the truth about this dark issue, so if your own curiosity Is piqued I would suggest you do some Google research of your own.
Satanic ritual child rape is also very real. Google "the finders" for one horrific case with connections to the government, military and CIA.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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Elites using children as sex slaves is most definitely real. Epstein is one known billionaire who has been documented owning a "sex slave island" and throwing sex parties offering young teenage minors to adult men in power. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have both been visitors to these islands.: http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
But you are saying something completely different. You are saying that this is a ritual where people are forced or coerced or manipulated into committing sex acts with children, in order to achieve some sort of super-status power and wealth and fame.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
#23704149 - 10/03/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not quite.
You are aware of the practice among certain criminal street gangs requiring a prospective member to commit a murder to earn membership?
This is exactly the same principle for exactly the same reasons at a much higher level of power and secrecy.
It's not universal obviously, but it's common and institutionalized especially in the UK.
I can post a podcast covering some of these horror stories at some point.
The logic Is pretty straightforward.
How do you ensure someone will take your evil secrets to the grave so you can trust them to join your cabal and insure they aren't some kind of undercover infiltrator?
Have them do something so evil that you can be sure they are totally amoral, they are not a cop or undercover, and they can't possibly ever snitch or betray you without destroying themselves.
It accomplishes three things at once
It binds you together through a shared evil experience and proves you are willing to do anything and everything
It proves you are not a cop or undercover
It provides the group with blackmail material to ensure lifelong obedience
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Not quite.
You are aware of the practice among certain criminal street gangs requiring a prospective member to commit a murder to earn membership?
This is exactly the same principle for exactly the same reasons at a much higher level of power and secrecy.
It's not universal obviously, but it's common and institutionalized especially in the UK.
I can post a podcast covering some of these horror stories at some point.
The logic Is pretty straightforward.
I know exactly what you're saying, but this is something that requires substantive proof.
Some preliminary searches have simply brought me to some conspiracy websites and blogs that provide conjecture and all sorts of statements but offer no proof, I was hoping you'd be able to share more concrete evidence.
I mean, first of all, who is this small elite group of people that control every facet of society, including who rises to power and fame and wealth? Is it the Rothschilds? Is it the CIA? Who is it?
Surely if people are aware of this and have investigated this practice and exposed it, they would be able to name who is largely orchestrating these events, or where in the world these take place, or even name particular individuals who have gone through this initiation process.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott] 2
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Of course absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. It's not evidence. There is no evidence.
The thing about evidence is it proves something. The thing about what you're saying is that it's bullshit that only seems possible if you believe that anything theoretically being possible means that what you personally believe is true. That is the difference here.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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"I mean, first of all, who is this small elite group of people that control every facet of society, including who rises to power and fame and wealth? "
I never said there was such a group, although there may well be.
Saying child sex abuse is sometimes used by elite groups as a way of ensuring loyalty and controlling membership doesn't mean or imply there is a single monolithic group who controls everything.
Just like when I point out that some gangs require you commit a murder to gain membership doesn't mean or imply that this gang controls all gangs everywhere or rules the world.
Clearly organized child sex abuse is an institutionalized part of certain power structures in the UK.
That's a far cry from saying all elites worldwide are involved in this, or that the pedophiles in the UK rule the entire world.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704277 - 10/03/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I would be a famous rapper by now if I was willing to do gay stuff. It's sort of like the gays in the rap business, only they fuck kids not thugz.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Pedophilia among elites (politicians etc) is partly to create blackmail leverage over people-
Basically if you want to enter the elite inner circle of power they require you to fuck kids so that forever after you have to do whatever they say because they have that blackmail hanging over you.
They won't allow you to have high level power unless you do something that they can hold over you.
You implied that there is a group (or maybe you meant groups, plural) that are in such power they require people to engage in sex acts with children so they can become politicians and bankers and high-level judges and things of that nature. Who are these people that supposedly hold such power they can control who rises to wealth and fame and power? Where do these initiation processes take place, at a fraternity or at somebody's mansion?
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moonrockmushy said: Of course absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. It's not evidence. There is no evidence.
The thing about evidence is it proves something. The thing about what you're saying is that it's bullshit that only seems possible if you believe that anything theoretically being possible means that what you personally believe is true. That is the difference here.
Exactly, I believe that Obama has a pet unicorn that he brings to his exclusive drug and sex parties with EU leaders. There's no proof for it, but lack of evidence doesn't prove it DOESN'T exist.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
#23704327 - 10/03/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Elites using children as sex slaves is most definitely real. Epstein is one known billionaire who has been documented owning a "sex slave island" and throwing sex parties offering young teenage minors to adult men in power. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have both been visitors to these islands.: http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
But you are saying something completely different. You are saying that this is a ritual where people are forced or coerced or manipulated into committing sex acts with children, in order to achieve some sort of super-status power and wealth and fame.
what the fuck, "sex slave island"????? i almost have trouble believing that's real
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
#23704333 - 10/03/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obama's pet unicorn certainly exists in the metaphorical sense.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Sheekle]
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Crystal G said: Elites using children as sex slaves is most definitely real. Epstein is one known billionaire who has been documented owning a "sex slave island" and throwing sex parties offering young teenage minors to adult men in power. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have both been visitors to these islands.: http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
But you are saying something completely different. You are saying that this is a ritual where people are forced or coerced or manipulated into committing sex acts with children, in order to achieve some sort of super-status power and wealth and fame.
what the fuck, "sex slave island"????? i almost have trouble believing that's real
Epstein's "sex slave island" has been documented and is real, along with his "Lolita express" which is his private jet, where he hosts his sex parties, basically young teen girls who are groomed from adolescence to serve wealthy older clients.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589628/Report-Bill-Clinton-jumped-aboard-disgraced-sex-offender-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Lolita-Express-plane-junkets-26-TIMES-just-three-years.html
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: akira_akuma] 2
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I wonder how much flak one would catch if they came out and admitted they were a pedo in this thread.
You thought it was going to be me.
You are sick.
Is not me, just to make that clear.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
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I see what you did there
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You thought it was going to be me.
You are sick.
Is not me, just to make that clear.

just imagine how much flak you'd get for hiding the fact that you knew the president diddled kids?
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Tmethyl said: I wonder how much flak one would catch if they came out and admitted they were a pedo in this thread.
You thought it was going to be me.
You are sick.
Is not me, just to make that clear.

just imagine how much flak you'd get for hiding the fact that you knew the president diddled kids?
You'd get in so much trouble. Unless of course they put James Comey on the case or something.
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How? I covered it with black bars that only the highest ranking Shroomery members fully grasp how to remove You don't look like a top ranking member.. So I must assume 1337h4x
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
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No h4x here thats cheating. I have my ways
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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I wish
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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He's a script adult.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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I actually have no idea what you guys are talking about lol
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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well when two nerds smash their genitals together a script kiddie if formed. Sooner or later it becomes a script adult.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Kenetic]
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a person who uses existing computer scripts or code to hack into computers, lacking the expertise to write their own.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
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still don't get it.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23704796 - 10/03/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
#23705789 - 10/04/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Are you calling me a liar?
I believe you. Ever since I looked into the whole Dutroux business that seemed the most likely to me.
Also, that African punishment sounds boss, a good eye-for-an-eye punishment of the most vile amongst us. What nations use it?
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Turtletotem]
#23706748 - 10/04/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that was Vlad the Impaler's signature death sentence.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Eminence] 1
#23707351 - 10/04/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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made the muslims think twice about invading Europe.
Wasn't a nice guy, neither were they. He was such a cunt that they stayed in the middle east "Screw Europe, I don't want my head on a spike."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#Ottoman_war
Sadly, there's no article on him that I could find in the bad ass of the week site, but, whilst he's undeniably one of the worst sadists to have existed, apart from Elizabeth Bathory ( http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=187156025629 ) of Hungary, he should be credited with scaring off the Muslims and, if the crusades didn't give them enough of a clue, let them know that the barbarians of Europe were not to be fucked with, something that's largely forgotten in these days.
I'm sure the rest of the world is just as degenerate as the UK, just our degeneracy makes the news more often. Not many people talk about the age of consent in the Vatican city state, which only recently was raised from 12 to 18 (and, I didn't know this, but gay sex was allowed from 1889 http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/vatican-city-raises-age-consent-12-18-following-scandals120713/#gs.Oy1CiZg )
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#23707371 - 10/04/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obviously because there are a lot of pedophiles there. You don't create an illegal ring somewhere with no demand. That's just bad business.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Enjoywho]
#23707405 - 10/04/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get a load of this pedofaggot
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Great Scott]
#23707557 - 10/04/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol what are those dog monsters?
I believe in Iceland the age of consent is still 14.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23707604 - 10/04/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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14 wouldn't that be nice. I'm 25 draw the line for sex at 18. But prefer 21 as we can have a drink together and I'm not a child. Must be nice at 14 you got your pick of the crop to mold them into whatever your perfect woman is. Old enough to bleed old enough for a 60 year old to buy. Makes sense.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23707623 - 10/04/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Lol what are those dog monsters?
Smithers, unleash the hounds.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23708783 - 10/05/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Lol what are those dog monsters?
Looks like old man Rapetheworld is nearing death, they are already waiting to take him with them.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: deucedbi9] 1
#23708846 - 10/05/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hate liz said: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK?
In Europe and Canada they have the Free Spore Rings and with brexit the UK wanted something of their own so they set up free pedophile rings where you send in a photo of your little girl and a self addressed envelope and you'd get a rating on how hot she is on a scale of 1 to 10 years old.
No seriously, deucedbi9 nailed I think, its the boarding schools system, wherever you put kids in institutions there is systematic abuse.
Kids belong in families, not "cared for" by institutions.
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deucedbi9 said: Paedophile rings are, imo, largely a by product of public boarding schools.
Wealthy parents send their children to institutions where the early introduction of 'fagging,' where the older boys make the younger students their 'personal servants' is endemic, and will often cross over into sexual exploitation, which in some instances will become entrenched in the behaviour of the individual and carried into adult life.
Many of the masters in such institutions would themselves have gone through the public school system, and so 'turn a blind eye' to the shenanigans among the students. They likely have their 'favourites' among the older boys, to whom they will give certain privilages,who will in return identify susceptible younger students to introduce to the masters, setting up lifelong relationships, or "Paedophile rings", in which information is spread via the interwebs.
Then there's the Catholic boys being sent to choir practice by their parents with the admonition, "now you do what the father tells you" ringing in their ears. What hope for those boys that just happen to fall within the purview of some paedophile priest.
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