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Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK?
    #23696016 - 10/01/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

what's up with that??

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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
    #23696128 - 10/01/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

God only knows


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: g00ru]
    #23696132 - 10/01/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23696148 - 10/01/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing.
It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion.
Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse.
Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children.
Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. :lol:


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: shadyy]
    #23696157 - 10/01/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They're farming food for the lizard people, a.k.a. The Royal Family


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Eminence]
    #23696236 - 10/01/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Paedophile rings are, imo, largely a by product of public boarding schools.

Wealthy parents send their children to institutions where the early introduction of 'fagging,' where the older boys make the younger students their 'personal servants' is endemic, and will often cross over into sexual exploitation, which in some instances will become entrenched in the behaviour of the individual and carried into adult life.

Many of the masters in such institutions would themselves have gone through the public school system, and so 'turn a blind eye' to the shenanigans among the students.
They likely have their 'favourites' among the older boys, to whom they will give certain privilages,who will in return identify susceptible younger students to introduce to the masters, setting up lifelong relationships, or "Paedophile rings", in which information is spread via the interwebs.

Then there's the Catholic boys being sent to choir practice by their parents with the admonition, "now you do what the father tells you" ringing in their ears. What hope for those boys that just happen to fall within the purview of some paedophile priest.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23696244 - 10/01/16 03:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Tmethyl said:
The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing.
It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion.
Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse.
Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children.
Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. :lol:




I have to question whether things such as virtual media pedophilia or child sex dolls would actually prevent pedophilia IRL. Seems like it would actually make the desire stronger, and it would in fact encourage such desires more. As these desires become more and more natural to the user, there would be a reinforcing and self-affirming effect. If it reinforces and encourages the child sex fantasy, one could argue that it would therefore make one more likely to commit pedophilia.

I mean, saying that access to child pornography would reduce one's likelihood of committing child sex crimes seems like a rather asinine and far-fetched statement to make, doesn't it? Studies seem to indicate that it increases recidivism rates, not the opposite.

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Most importantly, after controlling for general and specific risk factors for sexual aggression, pornography added significantly to the prediction of recidivism. Statistical interactions indicated that frequency of pornography use was primarily a risk factor for higher-risk offenders, when compared with lower-risk offenders, and that content of pornography (i.e., pornography containing deviant content) was a risk factor for all groups.




https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18307171

Kind of like how sex offenders almost always start out stealing underwear or as peeping toms or committing some other petty crime, or how serial killers always practice on animals before moving on to humans. Seems like there's a stepping stone type of effect when it comes to increasing the gravity of crime.

For sure stigma against pedophiles should decrease however, if only so that it makes them easier and brave enough to seek help.


Edited by Crystal G (10/01/16 04:07 AM)


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23696248 - 10/01/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Is a pedophile ring like a mood ring?


Does it change color based on the tier of jailbait within proximity?

This would be a great idea for sex offenders.  Like a 16-17 year old around the ring tightens around the finger, a 13-15 year old the ring starts to mildly cut off circulation and vibrate loudly, under 12 it starts beeping while doing all of the above.....and when a baby is close it starts electrocuting the pedo until he is 1000 feet away.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23696318 - 10/01/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Kind of like how sex offenders almost always start out stealing underwear or as peeping toms or committing some other petty crime, or how serial killers always practice on animals before moving on to humans. Seems like there's a stepping stone type of effect when it comes to increasing the gravity of crime.

For sure stigma against pedophiles should decrease however, if only so that it makes them easier and brave enough to seek help.




I suppose, by this 'monkey see, monkey do' reasoning we're to believe that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was a fan of Death Race 2000 and that's why there was so many people killed on the roads in the 70's, or was there. :strokebeard:

I'd prefer the police to partially open up their data bases so that paedophiles, or others, interested in this sort of material can sign up with them for access, effectively putting themselves on a 'vitual paedophile register' while also giving them access to 'help lines' should they want it, to help them stop their perverse thinking. This could possibly undermine the black market in the material by making it unprofitable. A bit like giving junkies legal access to their junk would reduce their need to commit crime to obtain it.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23696333 - 10/01/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd prefer the police to partially open up their data bases so that paedophiles, or others, interested in this sort of material can sign up with them for access, effectively putting themselves on a 'vitual paedophile register' while also giving them access to 'help lines' should they want it, to help them stop their perverse thinking. This could possibly undermine the black market in the material by making it unprofitable. A bit like giving junkies legal access to their junk would reduce their need to commit crime to obtain it.




I don't know how effective that would be. As long as child sex dolls are available and can be bought online for cheap, I don't see why anybody couldn't simply circumvent the registry by ordering such things off such foreign websites, or even the dark web. As for making virtual child porn accessible via a pedophile registry, it might register some pedophiles who are not particularly internet-savvy (much like the users who use I-Tunes instead of downloading their music)... but we all know how easily porn can be pirated and then spread and distributed illegally. I would venture to say that most viewers of pornography are using pirated or free content, and not registering and paying for it.

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I suppose, by this 'monkey see, monkey do' reasoning we're to believe that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was a fan of Death Race 2000 and that's why there was so many people killed on the roads in the 70's, or was there. :strokebeard:




It's not so simple. There are many motives and reasons one have for committing a heinous crime, and in the case of Mohamed one could argue that he had political motive, a personal vendetta, or some other personal sadistic intent that caused him to carry out his actions.

In the case of pedophilia, there is only one reason somebody would have sex with a child, and that is because of sexual desire. Therefore, the debate over whether virtual pornography or child sex dolls can increase or decrease this sexual desire, is of grave importance.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23696346 - 10/01/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Progressive ideology has recently suggested that pedophilia is natural and ok, you will only see more of this in the mainstream as progressives gain control


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23696360 - 10/01/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Progressive ideology has recently suggested that pedophilia is natural and ok, you will only see more of this in the mainstream as progressives gain control




Congrats for turning something non-political into a political issue. This isn't a political issue.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23696424 - 10/01/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ur a political issue


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #23696497 - 10/01/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The moment you make something illegal or shameful you create desire in peoples minds for that thing.
It's a trait carried in through childhood, a sort of subconscious rebellion.
Of course pedophilia should be illegal, but the desires in the people afflicted by it's grip does not vanish, therefore you must allow other avenues of expression, because the desire must be allowed or it will manifest in real-world child rape or worse.
Things such as virtual media pedophilia could, psychologically speaking, prevent actual pedophilia on real children.
Or just get them sick bastards interested in something else. :lol:





you were so close but not even

it's because man has decided it's time to legislate away millions of years of human evolution.


you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23696504 - 10/01/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Horseshit. I'm a fairly progressive individual & I think the penalty for molesting kids should be stiffer. Hurting a child is one of the most despicable things a person can do.....and anyone that does so should never see the light of day again.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23696534 - 10/01/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No, I know plenty of people with progressive views. Every last one despises pedophiles.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23696616 - 10/01/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Kill em all <------ would work for most problems.


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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23696913 - 10/01/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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you cant change the nature of animals by making a few laws




That settles it.
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Re: Why are there so many pedophile rings in the UK? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23696940 - 10/01/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Hurting a child is one of the most despicable things a person can do.....and anyone that does so should never see the light of day again.



This is how I feel. Any harm inflicted upon a child is 100x worse than that same harm being inflicted upon an adult IMO.

As for the topic at hand, I feel deucedbi9 nailed it:

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deucedbi9 said:
Paedophile rings are, imo, largely a by product of public boarding schools.

Wealthy parents send their children to institutions where the early introduction of 'fagging,' where the older boys make the younger students their 'personal servants' is endemic, and will often cross over into sexual exploitation, which in some instances will become entrenched in the behaviour of the individual and carried into adult life.

Many of the masters in such institutions would themselves have gone through the public school system, and so 'turn a blind eye' to the shenanigans among the students.
They likely have their 'favourites' among the older boys, to whom they will give certain privilages,who will in return identify susceptible younger students to introduce to the masters, setting up lifelong relationships, or "Paedophile rings", in which information is spread via the interwebs.




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