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Synchronicity involving LSD
    #23694651 - 09/30/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone else ever experienced very strange and obvious "signs" or synchronicity, not so much while under the influence of LSD, but like the day after and roughly 24 hours before you even dose?

I've had just the strangest past few days, super obvious dramatic movie esque signs and weird happenings. I mean A LOT. some things involving numbers and some things just straight up coming out of someone's mouth.

For instance; I've been heavily debating and struggling to put into action the need to quit my job for the past few weeks because of things i dont agree with morally and I have an application to an animal shelter (faithful friends) that I've been in talks with to get hired and this guys house we're working on today (a 93 yr old man) right before we left said "if nothing else work is always a faithful friend!"

Weird.

Also, the number 3 has been popping up all over the place, right down to paycheck being $333.00 This week. A video i recorded of my dear friends dementia ridden grandmother was 33 seconds long (co peltely unintentional) and I end the video at 3:03 pm... Also we decided take take 3 tabs each yesterday which was just the beginning of our number 3 thing


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: cheesesteakalike] * 1
    #23695029 - 09/30/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I experience synchronicity more frequently when my actions are steering my life in the right direction. I don't even know what the 'right' direction is; I'm just following the signs.

Drugs have little to do with incurring synchronicity IME, rather, they just give my mind the practice and breathing space to be more proficient at spotting them.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23695053 - 09/30/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

hope the animal shelter works out like the old man said


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23700589 - 10/02/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I see synchronicities all the time - no problem at all spotting them - i just don't know what they mean and it's not from lack of trying. If it means something, why is the meaning so mysterious and elusive?? Jung talked about a woman dreaming about a certain type of beatle and the same arriving during a counselling session - suddenly the woman was cured (!) but why?? She must have understood the meaning ...


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: MushroomBilly]
    #23703681 - 10/03/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you're beginning your spiritual journey.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23703735 - 10/03/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's all a spiritual journey


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: MushroomBilly]
    #23703930 - 10/03/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Be safe in the Self and explore.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23703962 - 10/03/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

suddenly everything become clear.. yeah I see it all the time buddy


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: cheesesteakalike]
    #23706740 - 10/04/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here's my personal experience.

When I started taking acid and shrooms, I experienced a lot of positive synchronicity, especially while under their influence. I would listen to music and the lyrics to the song would match exactly what I was thinking. I would watch a movie and a certain scene would match with exactly what was going on in my life.

These were all very enjoyable experiences.

But you mustn't let ever let these thoughts control you. Delusions can soon turn sour and unpleasant. I started believing horrible things like being convinced people were plotting to attack me, thinking people could read my mind and all my thoughts, etc.

Through personal cognitive behavioral therapy, I overcome my delusions and now I am able to see through them and realize that they are simply delusions made by my own mind.

All I'm saying is tread carefully- these beliefs can certainly be fun and enjoyable at times but it's important to keep an open mind at all times so that they don't become turn into unpleasant delusions.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: MushroomBilly]
    #23709062 - 10/05/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I see synchronicities all the time - no problem at all spotting them - i just don't know what they mean and it's not from lack of trying. If it means something, why is the meaning so mysterious and elusive?? Jung talked about a woman dreaming about a certain type of beatle and the same arriving during a counselling session - suddenly the woman was cured (!) but why?? She must have understood the meaning ...






Jung also said that synchronicities were markers in this life, telling us we're on the right path, and doing the right things.

Don't over think things, if you observer synchronicity, then note how you feel about it, and keep moving forward, don't dwell on it, or try to attach some mystic meaning which isn't there, if a life lesson is truly there, it will keep coming up.

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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Lucis]
    #23709074 - 10/05/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I want to second what Alex said.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Lucis]
    #23710208 - 10/05/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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MushroomBilly said:
I see synchronicities all the time - no problem at all spotting them - i just don't know what they mean and it's not from lack of trying. If it means something, why is the meaning so mysterious and elusive?? Jung talked about a woman dreaming about a certain type of beatle and the same arriving during a counselling session - suddenly the woman was cured (!) but why?? She must have understood the meaning ...






Jung also said that synchronicities were markers in this life, telling us we're on the right path, and doing the right things.

Don't over think things, if you observer synchronicity, then note how you feel about it, and keep moving forward, don't dwell on it, or try to attach some mystic meaning which isn't there, if a life lesson is truly there, it will keep coming up.

No worries.




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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: MushroomBilly]
    #23710238 - 10/05/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it doesn't need to mean anything.
stuff happens together all the time.
you notice stuff all the time.
sometimes you notice stuff happening together.
it's great, and funny.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Lucis]
    #23710740 - 10/05/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Jung also said that synchronicities were markers in this life, telling us we're on the right path, and doing the right things.



I didn't know he said that, but it's reassuring, as it's exactly what I've said to myself. Thanks for sharing that.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: cheesesteakalike]
    #23714852 - 10/07/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

absolutely... not just from LSD either, any heavy psychedelic trip will do it.

DXM has caused this more than any other substance to be honest though.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: LuSiD9]
    #23715054 - 10/07/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The disso's do have a habit of bringing such things about, over and above any of the other families IME.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23715708 - 10/07/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The more I think about synchronicity, the more it starts happening to me.  :strokebeard:


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23715819 - 10/07/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Synchronicity is definitely interesting and reveals the strange, extremely bizarre nature of this universe, despite its beauty.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23715829 - 10/07/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think you're jumping to assumptions associating coincidence to other then our brains processing information it evaluates. Chemicals that effect neurotransmitters seems to make the magical associations more prevalent.

Maybe the universal pixies alter reality to our mundane wishes.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Jaegar]
    #23715850 - 10/07/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"Synchronicity is more than a mere chance arrangement of disconnected parts into a pattern, for it involves a conjunction of the individual and the global, and arises out of the operation of some deeper principle that binds elements together into a fundamental pattern....In other words, synchronicities are manifestations, in mind and matter, of the unknown ground that underlies them both.  In this way similar orders are found in both consciousness and in the structuring of matter.  The parallelism between the objective and the subjective aspects of the universe do not so much arise through causal connections, or linear patterns in time, but out of underlying dynamics that are common to both."  --F. David Peat, Synchronicity


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23715887 - 10/07/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok sure it's fluffy and sounds eloquent. Do we have any concrete or special examples to relate to?


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Jaegar]
    #23716010 - 10/07/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Of course there's no evidence or proof. Believing in synchronicity is no different from believing in God.

Synchronicities are sometimes enjoyable because they make a person feel connected with the Universe and they make life more interesting. People will believe all sorts of things without evidence if it makes them feel safe or good.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Alexestalex] * 1
    #23716494 - 10/07/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is no evidence or proof, yet you've documented an unexplainable phenomenon that feels significant.  In that sense, you can look at things through some grumbly materialistic view and say "meh, it's just a coincidence" or you can fess up that you really don't know that much about the universe and most of the time are just guessing and marvel at the mystery of it all :shrug:.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23716733 - 10/07/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just because something feels emotionally significant for a person doesn't mean there's actual significance.

I know people who pray to God and they are convinced that God is literally listening to their prayers. That is no different from being convinced that synchronicity is "real".


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Alexestalex]
    #23716743 - 10/07/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You suspect there is no difference, because there is has yet to be any proof......  There very well could be a significant difference.  I mean, why make such bold assertions when you just don't know.  I'm not making any.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23716760 - 10/07/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I mean, If someone said that if you go to the top of Mount Everest and yell "Zeus", a pink dragon will fly down and swoop you up to Heaven, I'd say they are crazy. It might be true, I don't have any proof that it isn't but it's likely not. It's a simple case of Occam's Razor.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Alexestalex]
    #23716824 - 10/07/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yet many, many people have documented their experiences of synchronicity.  All I encourage is to take a multi-model approach towards unexplained phenomena.  Think of at least 5 or 10 alternatives to it being man asserting some sort of order where there is none to feel safe or good.  Consider that answer might be wrong, that there might still be something to learn here.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Alexestalex] * 1
    #23717756 - 10/07/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course there's no evidence or proof. Believing in synchronicity is no different from believing in God.

Synchronicities are sometimes enjoyable because they make a person feel connected with the Universe and they make life more interesting. People will believe all sorts of things without evidence if it makes them feel safe or good.



I bet there are ways to prove synchronicity.
I wouldn't really call it a belief either.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: hTx] * 1
    #23720218 - 10/08/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Synchronicities are by definition nothing more and nothing less than meaningful coincidences, and they happen all the time. If you are smart, you take notice of such coincidences and learn from them why they caught your attention. If you are not so smart, you may go down the road thinking synchronicity is a great reason to waste your time figuring out things like casinos, dating sites, horoscopes, metaphysical quantum spirituality, etc.

And yes, all of my major LSD and shroom trips so far have been associated with lots of synchronicities both before and after the trip itself. It's still a weird experience, but after a while those aspects of it began to be something familiar and anticipated actually.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Rhizoid]
    #23721325 - 10/09/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Synchronicities are by definition nothing more and nothing less than meaningful coincidences, and they happen all the time. If you are smart, you take notice of such coincidences and learn from them why they caught your attention. If you are not so smart, you may go down the road thinking synchronicity is a great reason to waste your time figuring out things like casinos, dating sites, horoscopes, metaphysical quantum spirituality, etc.

And yes, all of my major LSD and shroom trips so far have been associated with lots of synchronicities both before and after the trip itself. It's still a weird experience, but after a while those aspects of it began to be something familiar and anticipated actually.



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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23728605 - 10/11/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

also interesting to consider that the symptoms of 'classic' paranoia are essentially perceiving synchronicity or connections where there is/are none.

like wise folks who hold various positive beliefs, may also be influenced by unconscious bias.

I have heard it said, that there are altered states where there are extrordiary feelings of flow. Many martial arts aim for this. But it is not the same. This is not about hidden meanings or feeling special. On the contrary it happens when egoic involvement is reduced.

Likewise gamblers talk about winning streaks and knowing you can't lose or miss. (for them the trick is knowing ahead of time when it's about to be over - before it ends) - but again they don't look for hidden meanings - or care about being special - if they pocket profits that's enough.


from wiki:

"Ideas of reference and delusions of reference describe the phenomenon of an individual's experiencing innocuous events or mere coincidences[1] and believing they have strong personal significance.[2] It is "the notion that everything one perceives in the world relates to one's own destiny."[3]

In psychiatry, delusions of reference form part of the diagnostic criteria for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia,[4] delusional disorder, or bipolar disorder (during the elevated stages of mania). To a lesser extent, it can be a hallmark of paranoid personality disorder. Such symptoms can also be caused by intoxication, especially with hallucinogens or stimulants like methamphetamine."


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: laughingdog]
    #23728665 - 10/11/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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also interesting to consider that the symptoms of 'classic' paranoia are essentially perceiving synchronicity or connections where there is/are none.

like wise folks who hold various positive beliefs, may also be influenced by unconscious bias.

I have heard it said, that there are altered states where there are extrordiary feelings of flow. Many martial arts aim for this. But it is not the same. This is not about hidden meanings or feeling special. On the contrary it happens when egoic involvement is reduced.

Likewise gamblers talk about winning streaks and knowing you can't lose or miss. (for them the trick is knowing ahead of time when it's about to be over - before it ends) - but again they don't look for hidden meanings - or care about being special - if they pocket profits that's enough.


from wiki:

"Ideas of reference and delusions of reference describe the phenomenon of an individual's experiencing innocuous events or mere coincidences[1] and believing they have strong personal significance.[2] It is "the notion that everything one perceives in the world relates to one's own destiny."[3]

In psychiatry, delusions of reference form part of the diagnostic criteria for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia,[4] delusional disorder, or bipolar disorder (during the elevated stages of mania). To a lesser extent, it can be a hallmark of paranoid personality disorder. Such symptoms can also be caused by intoxication, especially with hallucinogens or stimulants like methamphetamine."





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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23744234 - 10/16/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

On DMT i had a chain reaction of synchronicities take place which was focused on a specific idea and i had voices in my head talking to me and coaching me through these concepts and ideas.

Im really interested in accounts of psychedelics effecting synchronicity.

My personal experience was much too complex and poetic to be ALL delusions of reference i strongly feel, although i was experiencing pattern detection problems from an overdrive of patternicity so i was seeing patterns in noise but most of that was just psychosis-type jumping to conclusions. But i cannot deny that the peak of the experience and episode had some sort of meaning.

it was as if i was seeing some higher dimensional symmetry in events which seemed random but were clearly linked.

I understand if it is just one coincidence, but multiple ones which were all connected to narrating voices to keep my mind on a specific path and the creepy realization that if any one of the events happened differently at all then i would not have stayed thinking the things i did.

Call me delusional but i think it is a mistake to discredit synchronicities from psychedelics to all be delusions of reference without actually studying it.

surely to god we can develop an interactive experiment to study this.


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Re: Synchronicity involving LSD [Re: Rhizoid] * 1
    #23744267 - 10/16/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Synchronicities are by definition nothing more and nothing less than meaningful coincidences, and they happen all the time. If you are smart, you take notice of such coincidences and learn from them why they caught your attention. If you are not so smart, you may go down the road thinking synchronicity is a great reason to waste your time figuring out things like casinos, dating sites, horoscopes, metaphysical quantum spirituality, etc.

And yes, all of my major LSD and shroom trips so far have been associated with lots of synchronicities both before and after the trip itself. It's still a weird experience, but after a while those aspects of it began to be something familiar and anticipated actually.




When I experience synchronicity, I suspect that it was already out there, I just merely wasn't paying attention because I was in my own humdrum trance.  Everything significant to me was ripe for the picking, it's only when it became a discovery to me that it suddenly started appearing all over the place.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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