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Mush Freak
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Mad Season]
#23696815 - 10/01/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holes are significantly higher than substrates in the trays. Also there's the lip of the tray. Hell bod doesn't even have holes. Hole placement is not at all the reason why things go great. Proper conditions and a little bit of luck.
Yeah that's true! Good point.
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Mush Freak] 1
#23696849 - 10/01/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tell me about how co2 escapes in these

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Mush Freak
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23697375 - 10/01/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Tell me about how co2 escapes in these


Yeah, I get it, this was mentioned earlier. I was listening to old outdated wrong info, my bad.
Sweet pics! Those isolates? So beautiful!
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Mush Freak]
#23697454 - 10/01/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Clone in the first tub Then the tub with the two halves is MS Then the last one is an isolate
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23697725 - 10/01/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You in particular OP really IMO discredit that agar is truly the be all end all of this hobby. Looks like you're getting along just fine without it.
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23697742 - 10/01/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agar helps. I think it's more important to actually know how to grow mushrooms first.
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23697759 - 10/01/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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MS dosen't just mean spores to grain, you put spores to agar, transfer just enough make sure it's clean and drop it to grain it's still a MS grow. OP never said if he used agar or not.
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: NDStepp84]
#23698005 - 10/01/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: MS dosen't just mean spores to grain, you put spores to agar, transfer just enough make sure it's clean and drop it to grain it's still a MS grow. OP never said if he used agar or not.
Good point thanks.
OP you clean MS up on agar?
At what point is it not MS? Take a clone or something off a MS fruit, the. It's no longer MS?
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Mush Freak
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23698335 - 10/01/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: MS dosen't just mean spores to grain, you put spores to agar, transfer just enough make sure it's clean and drop it to grain it's still a MS grow. OP never said if he used agar or not.
Good point thanks.
OP you clean MS up on agar?
At what point is it not MS? Take a clone or something off a MS fruit, the. It's no longer MS?
No I've never used agar... I've had great luck and success, and very very little contams problems so it never really felt necessary. Having said that, agar is a great tool to have in your skill set.
I am about to do a PE grow and plan on doing agar so I can find good genes and keep it consistent.
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Re: I think I need a bigger dehydrator XD (Mono-tub porn) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23698355 - 10/01/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No longer MS is called an isolate (or a monoculture to some). It consists of the genetics of a single strain of dikaryotic mycelium and tends to give you repeatable and consistent results of the genetics of that strain. Could be good genetics for potency, colonization, fruiting, or those results could also be consistently bad. That's why you'll see veterans spending loads of time isolating tons of strains and testing them to find a perfect culture they want to continue working with as long as they can, until senescence sets in of course and you must restart the process with fresh cultures.
The reason MS is not desired longterm is because of its unpredictability due to using literally hundreds or thousands of strains in a grow all with slightly different genetics, good or bad. Depending on how much you've isolated down your strains, you'll start to see more and more consistent and expected results with your grows.
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