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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: BattyKoda]
#25359052 - 07/31/18 07:57 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nicee. You can grow large plants in 30gallon tubs. It's a must if you can't put them in the groubd
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For those of you growing indoors my new grow light puts out a beautiful full spectrum that looks like the sun. I am using a 630 watt Ceramic Metal Halide or "LEC" as some call it. It easily puts out as much light as a 1000watt HPS or MH light that I was using before. Anyway... I was gone for a couple of weeks and when I came back it had probably pushed out 40 new leaves. If you're curious about this light I will send you a link if you PM me.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: PsiloPsychIn] 2
#25360689 - 08/01/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Snake, I think they will be good, dont worry so much. As they had pretty big leafs it´s not so strange they cant support them when cut off the main plant, it´s just natural. This is the reason some cut off 2/3 of the biggest leafs. You can do this on a few plants that are wilting the most and see if it helps. Some of the cuttings seem to have perked up and im sure they will root for you. You say it´s very humid, that is good. Dont let them be in the sun so the temps get too high.
Just let them be. I think they will be alright, at least most of them. You will be a kratom grower soon, dont worry
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25362331 - 08/02/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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My Red Indo Kratom has recovered from the spider mites it had a while ago. They're not growing spectacularly fast though, and began to turn a little pale lately. I figured they needed some fertilizer, so I top dressed with worm castings and watered it in. I'm contemplating to move one outdoors into a small plastic greenhouse. It doesn't receive too much direct sunlight, and it's warm and humid in there. I'm thinking the 110W CFL might not be enough for these plants, considering some previous posts. Both plants are growing side shoots though.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25362481 - 08/02/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateo said: Snake, I think they will be good, dont worry so much. As they had pretty big leafs it´s not so strange they cant support them when cut off the main plant, it´s just natural. This is the reason some cut off 2/3 of the biggest leafs. You can do this on a few plants that are wilting the most and see if it helps. Some of the cuttings seem to have perked up and im sure they will root for you. You say it´s very humid, that is good. Dont let them be in the sun so the temps get too high.
Just let them be. I think they will be alright, at least most of them. You will be a kratom grower soon, dont worry 
Thanks Mateo!  That made me feel a lot better!
They seem to like their new spot.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Poison Drink]
#25366119 - 08/04/18 09:51 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Poison Drink said: My Red Indo Kratom has recovered from the spider mites it had a while ago. They're not growing spectacularly fast though, and began to turn a little pale lately. I figured they needed some fertilizer, so I top dressed with worm castings and watered it in. I'm contemplating to move one outdoors into a small plastic greenhouse. It doesn't receive too much direct sunlight, and it's warm and humid in there. I'm thinking the 110W CFL might not be enough for these plants, considering some previous posts. Both plants are growing side shoots though.
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Do you grow them in a tent or just inside by a window? If not in a tent, any issues with low humidity? Daily misting or anything?
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MoonFarmer]
#25366489 - 08/04/18 01:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're in a tent under a 110W CFL light. I never mist them, because they seem to have been adapted to their environment. I only sometimes have to help the new leaves break free. That might be due to lower humidity.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Poison Drink]
#25366995 - 08/04/18 06:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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110W CFL is enough. I have grown bigger plants with a 40W CFL. If they dont grow or grow very slow it´s a result of something. Spider mites or other bugs can make them loose grow power just as you say. If they were healthy you should see quite fast progress at this size. They can also grow slowly if not warm enough.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo] 1
#25367952 - 08/05/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell yeah looks like one of my seed-grown Rifat is pushing out a horned leaf too!!

I've been slacking so hard on my kratom grow this year I'm ashamed of myself, especially since I had access to so many seeds. Here's an overview of my plants though...
Smaller seed-grown Rifats, I knocked a leaf from the one I'm holding while trying to kill a grasshopper this morning, it was the most bitter kratom leaf I've tasted yet:

Bigger seed-grown Rifats (the one on the left is the one with the horn):

Seed-grown Red Indos:

My 2 best Red Malay seedlings (the others are still in the tent, small and not separated...):

Best Green Malay seedlings (same as above for the others):

Bumblebee clone from a fellow shroomerite (thanks a lot bro!). Unfortunately one of the two got stem rot and didn't make it, but this one is going strong, the newer leaf is new growth.

Mitragyna hirsuta seedlings, the bigger one branched out very early and you can tell why it's called hirsuta on the closeup, the branches are hairy:
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MeanGreen]
#25368135 - 08/05/18 12:21 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very nice plants MG. I think the horned feature is something that lay within their DNA but is rarely showing, maybe a feature they had long ago. It seems like all varietys can form horned leafs but only very rarely. It would be really fun to get hold of some real horned Mitragyna seeds from Vietnam and grow a plant with only horned leafs. Maybe the other kratom varietys have come to be by evolving from the horned variety.
Im starting to have a problem with my Mitragynas, they grow so big and demand so much space now. When autumn/winter comes i will not have the room for all plants indoors and they will be much bigger than they are now. The poor plants will face the freezing death. Maybe i must do the humane thing and eat them all, i give them a quick and painless end.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25368285 - 08/05/18 01:58 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great looking plants, MeanGreen! I've noticed that the new leaves should be avoided when it comes to consumption. Not only do they taste more bitter than the older leaves, but they are a bit less potent. Mateo: Perhaps you can start trimming them down, turn them into bushes? Either that or buy a larger house.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Micaele]
#25368444 - 08/05/18 03:15 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Building a new little cloner tonight, going to take a bunch befor winter since she's probley going into the ground next year. I think my PH is a little high, what do you guys think is a good place to be? She gets fertilized lightly often but not crazily and I'm getting a few odd looking areas of growth, some pale leaves while others are lush green, some shoots are healthy green flexible, and theres a few that are deep red and flexible. She looks healthy overall just a few things here and there making me wonder, hope everyones enjoying their Sunday
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Canharo]
#25368581 - 08/05/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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A new cloner, intresting. What teknique are you going to use?
I have built Micaeles DIY Fogponic clooner/rooter and it works very good. Micaeles DIY Fogponic clooner/rooter
Micaele, I could cut them a bit as you suggested, but they just get wider and shorter. I don´t know if that helps me so much. I guess i have plenty of room but that´s if i put Kratom plants in evry window in the house including our bedroom and childrens rooms. I don´t know how popular that idea woul´d be recieved by the rest of the family but it´s a possible solution  I won´t kill them and probably keep most if not all. I could put all under artificial lights in the basement but my electrical bill is already huge. Worst is that i have more seeds i want to sow as Mitragyna Hirsuta and another Mitragyna variety. I guess it´s a good problem, it would have been worse if i had no Kratom plants at all.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25368609 - 08/05/18 04:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateo said: A new cloner, intresting. What teknique are you going to use?
I have built Micaeles DIY Fogponic clooner/rooter and it works very good. Micaeles DIY Fogponic clooner/rooter
Micaele, I could cut them a bit as you suggested, but they just get wider and shorter. I don´t know if that helps me so much. I guess i have plenty of room but that´s if i put Kratom plants in evry window in the house including our bedroom and childrens rooms. I don´t know how popular that idea woul´d be recieved by the rest of the family but it´s a possible solution  I won´t kill them and probably keep most if not all. I could put all under artificial lights in the basement but my electrical bill is already huge. Worst is that i have more seeds i want to sow as Mitragyna Hirsuta and another Mitragyna variety. I guess it´s a good problem, it would have been worse if i had no Kratom plants at all.
I have an older one thats a bubble set up with air stones, it has two big air stones that cover almost the entire bottom and a strong pump with a regulatory valve, with the pump and air stone size I bring the water just below the cuttings and the popping of the micro bubbles wet the cuttings & today I am building the one with a water pump and sprinkler set up to see what works better since I've only used the one (not for kratom) I like that mister idea, I'm going to pick some of those up as well and compare the three
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25368660 - 08/05/18 05:11 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mind living in a Kratom jungle, but it's probably not sustainable in the long run. Maybe you could contact a few botanical gardens to see if they'd be interested to take over some of your plants? They do become bulky rather quickly, so fortunately I didn't go overboard with ordering cuttings.
What about building a greenhouse in the garden? Maybe they won't survive the freezing cold, but at least you gave them a fighting chance. You could try heating the greenhouse via active composting, but that might require a great effort taken into account your location. I'm sure me and other members wouldn't mind taking over some plants. I would hate to see these lovely plants be culled!
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Poison Drink]
#25368722 - 08/05/18 05:56 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, i just read today that Kratom might not be legal in my country, somthing i have thought was completly OK. I must check whats the real status for this plant here, i wonder if that info was correct. Maybe i can give a few away to our botanical garden if they are intrested. My greenhouse is a very cheap, unheated thing so i really have to build a better one if i going to heat it on cold periods. All my Mitragyna plants are grown from seeds. I wont kill them, i figure something out.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#25369029 - 08/05/18 09:02 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mine are going in my garage this winter, I’ll bring one inside just to be sure. I’ve converted my plant room into living space, so it can’t be stuffed with plants like in the past. I had one Bumble Bee survive quite well in my garage one winter. It probably gets in the low 40’s at night and doesn’t get much light. That plant completely shut down, I only had to water it a few times all winter.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: JizzMasterZero] 2
#25372557 - 08/07/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’m following up on this years batch of Bumble Bee clones I started a month ago. I had 50 out of 75 rooted in 4 weeks. It really is possible to have 100% rooted in 2 weeks, I’ve done it in past years. I’ve seen roots in 5 days before. I started this batch with a 250W CFL with the HPS spectrum. I’ve always used this light, but this year only half of the tube was working. I replaced it with a HPS and things seemed to do better with more light. That makes me think that light intensity could be very important. I always use rockwool because it’s easy to package and mail. I used to just get it wet and stick in my cuttings. The last few attempts I’ve soaked them overnight in pH adjusted water because I read that is what is recommended. I think I was better off before I started that practice. The Keep It Simple Stupid idea seems to apply here. Next time I’ll test these two things and share the results.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: JizzMasterZero] 1
#25373920 - 08/08/18 02:36 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dang those clones have some nice looking roots formed. I've had bad luck with cloning so far, but I started out trying to clone in straight water. Have had much better success since I switched to coco coir and moved my clones into a growtub for humidity and light.
In other news, I finally managed to get rid of my spider mite problem! Just had to keep spraying with a mix of water and ethanol for about three weeks before they were totally gone.
The new growth my kratom plants are putting out now look super happy, and I notice they are growing considerably faster now that they don't have the stress from mites!
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Acaterpillar]
#25374323 - 08/08/18 07:14 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, mites can really get them to hardly grow at all. Good you got rid of em.
So just spray with water and alcohole mix every day for some weeks then. What ratios of alcohole/water and what % of alcohole you used? Also was it regular ethyl alcohole (booze alcohole) or isopropanol or similar?
Im always intrested in sucessful mite remedys 
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