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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #25314412 - 07/08/18 04:23 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Sure, i take a pic tonight and post.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo] * 4
    #25315249 - 07/08/18 03:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

So, here it is, the bigger Riafat in the bubbler bucket.
Sorry for LED pics, didn´t have any other good light i could use.
The reason i havent shared any pics of it is that it´s not really a beauty.
It has got burned against the CFL lamp twice and i have really neglected it.
I should have changed fert soulution long ago. i must do it any day now.




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Here are some others sown about the same time but in soil


They aint soo small, maybe 30-35cm


These Riafats with white damage was taken out without aclimatizing to lower humidity.
They got leaf damage pretty much directly, so i put them back in humidity.
If aclimatizing little slow there aint no problems at all.
The new leafs look good as you can see.


The Riafat in the Bubbler bucket is about 1 meter tall now not counting bucket.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
    #25315647 - 07/08/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The growth rate is incredible. Excellent work man :thumbup::thumbup:

How many hours do you personally run the lights for your plants?


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #25315769 - 07/08/18 07:49 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I think they are like 13 hours on 11 off.
I could increase the on time if i want, maybe i do.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
    #25316474 - 07/09/18 09:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Is that space being humidified? :smile:

Looking great!


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo] * 1
    #25316475 - 07/09/18 09:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

My Rifat is still turning around. I’d say she has done nearly a complete leaf drop and replaced those with even more leaves: 



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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #25316572 - 07/09/18 10:47 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Dude! Mateo that is very impressive growth! :thumbup:
I might have to dust off the hydro system and setup a kratom tent...

@Psilo very nice tree mate, mine also all seem to have shed all the leaves they had left after winter and replaced them with new growth. Kratom is sorta deciduous outside of its habitat it looks like.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25317054 - 07/09/18 04:14 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Tnx MG

The Riafat could have been much bigger if i had changed the fert solution more often and didn´t let it grow into the lamp and burned it. twice.

Kratom seems to be so well suited to hydro growing it´s amazing.
It really love heat, high humidity, love water to the point it grows well partially submerged at periods in the wild.
It´s almost as it was made for hydro growing.
My plant is just a fraction of what it could have been if given the right conditions.
It´s really nice when it grows so well one can see daily progress.

I guess growing in river deltas with tides raising and lowering water levels and rain seasons/dryer seasons is growing in hydro a la nature style.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
    #25318572 - 07/10/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you for your observations re Hydro style growing with Kratom Mateo. I've never tried hydro growing myself but I may give it a shot.


Here is a question for everyone.
My brother in law who suffers from anxiety and depression visited me at Christmas 2016. He was in a very bad space mental health wise. I asked him to try White Vein Maeng Da and he responded very well immediately. I gave him a supply to take home and then organized to help him buy a kilo. He claims this has helped him more than any drug he has been prescribed in his life. He is doing quite well. He has also managed to stop drinking alcohol so that is a synergistic effect I'm sure. He uses kratom dailly - about 3-6 grams

Anyway... he and his wife are very concerned the Trump administration will schedule Kratom and it will not be available legally. So he is asking me about growing it. I am sharing information with him but I told him I have never eaten any of the kratom I have grown and people (mostly vendors) claim that home grown kratom does not "work". I think some of you have personally experienced that home grown leaves do in fact contain noticeable amounts of active alkaloids. Is that true? Is the potency ok or would one need to consume 2-3 times the normal amount to get effects similar to Kratom from south east Asia?


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #25318659 - 07/10/18 02:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Homegrown Kratom does work that im sure of.
But im not a dayly kratom user and have no experience with leafs bought from SE Asia compared with selfgrown leafs.
I do know they have measured homegrown leafs that were from a young plant and they did contain a decent amount of mitragynine and 7-mitragynine.
Older leafs are said to be stronger.
Im sure we have some members who has good knowledge of this so you probably get a good anwswer.

Kratom is easy to grow and grow very fast so growing yourself is definitly an option if you fear a ban.
If you live where outdoor growing is possible it will be easy but if you have to grow them indoors or in a greenhouse it takes little more work but is definatley doable.
It´s nice the Kratom has such a positive effect for your brother.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo] * 2
    #25321801 - 07/12/18 07:19 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Damn the rains here have been very welcomed.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human] * 2
    #25322183 - 07/12/18 11:54 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)



I’ve got babies in the incubator! They are all Bumble Bees, except for 1 Green Malay. Hopefully things will go well. I’ve moved my rooting system to a new and warmer location. It’s around 90 degrees inside the box, 8 or 9 degrees warmer than in the past. Hopefully that will help and not hurt. My first few attempts a few years ago I had 100% rooted in about 2 weeks. Then my success dropped off some, so I’m hoping for the best here. A lot of people have been patiently waiting for clones.

I’ve got them under the 250W HPS spectrum CFL light. I’ve noticed that only half of the tube is producing light. I’ve already replaced the bulb once. I’m considering replacing it with my adjustable wattage HPS, and run it at the 50% setting. I’m afraid it will make my temperature inside the box even higher. Has anybody else had issues with poor life span for CFL bulbs?

I know it’s early to talk about overwintering plants. I heavily pruned and picked my kratom  before bringing them in last Fall. I think that was a bad idea. It’s taken longer than usual to get enough growth to cut from, and I’ve had more bug problems. My kratom has ants? What’s that all about? They aren’t eating my plants, but they seem to be associated with these things that look like small, black, half spherical things that I can’t identify. This year I soaked all of my cuttings in a neem solution, mixed it all around vigorously, rinsed, and planted.

I’ll post updates later, whether I succeed or fail.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #25322231 - 07/12/18 12:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I’ve got babies in the incubator! They are all Bumble Bees, except for 1 Green Malay. Hopefully things will go well. I’ve moved my rooting system to a new and warmer location. It’s around 90 degrees inside the box, 8 or 9 degrees warmer than in the past. Hopefully that will help and not hurt. My first few attempts a few years ago I had 100% rooted in about 2 weeks. Then my success dropped off some, so I’m hoping for the best here. A lot of people have been patiently waiting for clones.

I’ve got them under the 250W HPS spectrum CFL light. I’ve noticed that only half of the tube is producing light. I’ve already replaced the bulb once. I’m considering replacing it with my adjustable wattage HPS, and run it at the 50% setting. I’m afraid it will make my temperature inside the box even higher. Has anybody else had issues with poor life span for CFL bulbs?

I know it’s early to talk about overwintering plants. I heavily pruned and picked my kratom  before bringing them in last Fall. I think that was a bad idea. It’s taken longer than usual to get enough growth to cut from, and I’ve had more bug problems. My kratom has ants? What’s that all about? They aren’t eating my plants, but they seem to be associated with these things that look like small, black, half spherical things that I can’t identify. This year I soaked all of my cuttings in a neem solution, mixed it all around vigorously, rinsed, and planted.

I’ll post updates later, whether I succeed or fail.



Incubtor looks nice JMZ. :grampofapproval:

Seems you my have aphids. The ants protect them nd they give the ants some 'treats'.

I sent some BB clones to Mateo and Micaele. How areyour clones doing? Have they survived?


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
    #25322332 - 07/12/18 01:12 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I hope the neem dip makes my clones safe for their new owners. I’ve had aphids before, I’m not seeing them on the bottom side of the leaf along veins like I did before. Those ants seem to congregate at the nodes of leafs and branches, the aphids may be hiding there. There definitely is some sort of symbiotic relationship going on with the ants and something else. I’m just surprised that my plants aren’t showing much damage.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #25323574 - 07/13/18 06:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)





been a little over a month since it was repoted and is definitely putting on some size, roots are already poking out the bottom so i contemplating repoting to something larger already, tho might give it some more time to consolidate the current soil more before making the move, also been slowly moving it were it gets slightly more direct sun light every few days, dosnt really show up too well in the pic but the leaves have all turned a deep solid green.  been rotating it to keep the straight growth.

its a seed grown red thai, been looking into ordering a rifat as well, everyone else growing kratom has one so might as well have one too.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: DGB]
    #25323734 - 07/13/18 09:11 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Nice new growth and very impressive from seed :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #25323919 - 07/13/18 11:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I get mealy bugs, white fuzzy bugs that suck juice on the fresh stems and underside of leafs the ants farm them as well. They seem to be easy to kill though.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #25326243 - 07/14/18 03:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you for your observations re Hydro style growing with Kratom Mateo. I've never tried hydro growing myself but I may give it a shot.


Here is a question for everyone.
My brother in law who suffers from anxiety and depression visited me at Christmas 2016. He was in a very bad space mental health wise. I asked him to try White Vein Maeng Da and he responded very well immediately. I gave him a supply to take home and then organized to help him buy a kilo. He claims this has helped him more than any drug he has been prescribed in his life. He is doing quite well. He has also managed to stop drinking alcohol so that is a synergistic effect I'm sure. He uses kratom dailly - about 3-6 grams

Anyway... he and his wife are very concerned the Trump administration will schedule Kratom and it will not be available legally. So he is asking me about growing it. I am sharing information with him but I told him I have never eaten any of the kratom I have grown and people (mostly vendors) claim that home grown kratom does not "work". I think some of you have personally experienced that home grown leaves do in fact contain noticeable amounts of active alkaloids. Is that true? Is the potency ok or would one need to consume 2-3 times the normal amount to get effects similar to Kratom from south east Asia?




It most definitely does work. I am an average to heavy user (about 20g a day) and I did an experiment today.

I have been harvesting leaves on my seedlings for about a year, and I recently bought an electric coffee grinder and milled everything. So there's a mix of leaves that are from like 3 months to a year old from seed.

Well today I only used my homegrown powder, it tamed the morning withdrawals perfectly and the redosings kept me going all day just as well as some average commercial kratom would. I've had a lot worst and a lot better kratom before if that makes sense.

By the way, electric coffee grinders work amazing, def something every grower should own imo


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25326852 - 07/14/18 10:50 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you for your observations re Hydro style growing with Kratom Mateo. I've never tried hydro growing myself but I may give it a shot.


Here is a question for everyone.
My brother in law who suffers from anxiety and depression visited me at Christmas 2016. He was in a very bad space mental health wise. I asked him to try White Vein Maeng Da and he responded very well immediately. I gave him a supply to take home and then organized to help him buy a kilo. He claims this has helped him more than any drug he has been prescribed in his life. He is doing quite well. He has also managed to stop drinking alcohol so that is a synergistic effect I'm sure. He uses kratom dailly - about 3-6 grams

Anyway... he and his wife are very concerned the Trump administration will schedule Kratom and it will not be available legally. So he is asking me about growing it. I am sharing information with him but I told him I have never eaten any of the kratom I have grown and people (mostly vendors) claim that home grown kratom does not "work". I think some of you have personally experienced that home grown leaves do in fact contain noticeable amounts of active alkaloids. Is that true? Is the potency ok or would one need to consume 2-3 times the normal amount to get effects similar to Kratom from south east Asia?




It most definitely does work. I am an average to heavy user (about 20g a day) and I did an experiment today.

I have been harvesting leaves on my seedlings for about a year, and I recently bought an electric coffee grinder and milled everything. So there's a mix of leaves that are from like 3 months to a year old from seed.

Well today I only used my homegrown powder, it tamed the morning withdrawals perfectly and the redosings kept me going all day just as well as some average commercial kratom would. I've had a lot worst and a lot better kratom before if that makes sense.

By the way, electric coffee grinders work amazing, def something every grower should own imo



I have always found that Kratom harvested from my plants seem to have a stronger affect than any non extracted Kratom I have purchased. I'm not quite sure where people get the idea that growing your own makes for weak kratom. I will say you do need quite a bit of plants if you are trying to supply yourself entirely with your own grown.


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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Crispy224]
    #25326901 - 07/14/18 11:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I got quite a bit from my plants last year, maybe 2.5 KG? I stripped my plants of about 90% of their leaves because they fall of eventually anyway, and I cut a lot of the tips. They didn’t like that treatment, maybe smaller harvests throughout the year is the way to go. I typically use my homegrown just to get me through the night. I do think it’s possible to supply yourself if you have the enough sunny space in the summer and indoor space for the winter. We need to come up with a way to powderize larger amounts. I used a food processor and towards the end it wasn’t doing such a great job.


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