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ferrel_human
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: MrGiraffe]
#23733007 - 10/13/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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MrGiraffe said: No one has posted a cloning technique yet.
I did years back with great success. 20 out of 28. Super easy.
I used peat or coir pellets. A little bit of cloning powder and a catering tray. They look like domes. Then place in the shade and thats it. Tou should see roots in about a week.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
#23733715 - 10/13/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThUmB pRiNt said: Everyone I need some advice please.
I have Bumble B that arrived recently, the stem is about 12 - 15 long and very thin with 4 leafs at the very top and 2 tiny tiny new growth leafs, the 2 main sets are about a half inch apart.
I wanted to know if I cut the top half of that plant off and root it(to make it less lanky, easier to manage, and so that the stem will thicken up easier) will the bottom half of the leafless stem survive and sprout new shoots and leafs since it already has an established root ball of will it parish do to no leafs for photosynthesis?
Love & Light
I'd wait until was a lot bigger and with more shoots before doing any cloning. Krat is a little trickier than other plants... Likely BC its a tree and I find most trees I've worked with are a bit trickier. Its not hard but particular. Sorry y'all I've been meaning on Sharing my cloning method but I've been super busy. I'll post it soon, I promise.
Ferrel, nice plants bro! I Like the plastic bottle method of keeping the tops safe and sound in transit... That's a great idea! They'll bounce back in no tiempo.. Krat is a survivor species... They can stand to get a little ruffed up here and there no problem. Grow on dude.
KBG, nice bro
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23733757 - 10/13/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where do you guys get the plants from? I'm not from the US so its legal here i guess..
I've searched everywhere on google but it doesnt seem like websites sell them anymore.
Did the DEA just shut down every vendor or something? lol
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23733758 - 10/13/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks man. I love them little guys.
I have a question now. Whats the difference between fresh, dried and process leaf. I was speaking to a buddy of mine and he said there is a big difference in the three with the processed being more potent.
Any truth to that? I wonder because mine is dried powdered leaf.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23733761 - 10/13/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Teemo 6T3 said: Where do you guys get the plants from? I'm not from the US so its legal here i guess..
I've searched everywhere on google but it doesnt seem like websites sell them anymore.
Did the DEA just shut down every vendor or something? lol
Sorry man but no source discussion but all you have to do is look around and make friends.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23733776 - 10/13/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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My bad,
Got it
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23733785 - 10/13/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since its a tree, wouldn't it be easy by just Air layering it?
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23733798 - 10/13/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would work.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23733948 - 10/13/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: Thanks man. I love them little guys.
I have a question now. Whats the difference between fresh, dried and process leaf. I was speaking to a buddy of mine and he said there is a big difference in the three with the processed being more potent.
Any truth to that? I wonder because mine is dried powdered leaf.
Not 100& sure... But I'd imagine fresh would be just that... Right off the tree and wet... Which is usually very good but a rare commodity. Good luck to anyone in the US, or anyone in the a country other than somewhere in SE Asia to acquire enough to get the party started. Now the term "fresh" can come into play when refering to how recent the leaves were picked and dried. I went through a vendor who dealt directly with a forager/farmer in Indonesia and those leaves were absolutely superb. I do sincerely believe that the time the dried leave sit on a shelf, can be detrimental to the potency and how long that leaf will have its bang. Kind of like mushrooms or something... Yeah they'll work but the closer one ingest them to the date in which they were picked, the better the product will be. I'm no scientist or expert but that has been my first hand experience. Now no one SAys 'our leaf is old and covered w dust' by sometimes its pretty obvious and typically the quality isn't what it could be. Its hard to explain all the particular details... But I feel with enough experience one can tell. The taste is a good indicator for me. Fresher leaf doesn't taste that bad typically usually just like strong tea. But some of the older ones, or suspected older ones, have a very aweful a d strange flavor... Sometimes as gross as moldy bread or even with a styropmg twinge of pickles or something.
As for processed... I suspose that could suggest an enhanced leaf... Like one that is suppose to have an extract component to it or somethimg. I typically only use straight up, regular old, dried leaf (not old.. Just freshly harvested and dried and pulverized leaf ), so I'm not sure what processed leaf exactly is.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23733961 - 10/13/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have my 2 jars and ive googled on how stable is the molecule for kratom and its pretty stable. I can attest to that as 4 grams of 3+ years old of dried leaf gave me a pretty jittery feeling. No narcotic which is what o was looking for for but im no ope head so who cares. Good stuff regardless.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23734178 - 10/13/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How are yours looking today ferrel?
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23734306 - 10/13/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Itll def still work... I've gotten off on old stuff... It just seems like its taste, and over all feel changes a little. I could be wrong... Im wrong a lot in life ... Just what I've noticed. I feel like its enough of a difference personally, to stick with only farmers and vendors who go straight with farmers directly. But maybe its a comfort and trust thing and it's all psychosomatic... Yet thats my take on it
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23734312 - 10/13/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Teemo 6T3 said: Since its a tree, wouldn't it be easy by just Air layering it?
What do you mean by air layering? I'm not familiar with that term/method
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23734349 - 10/13/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa said:
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Teemo 6T3 said: Since its a tree, wouldn't it be easy by just Air layering it?
What do you mean by air layering? I'm not familiar with that term/method
 
http://www.learn2grow.com/gardeningguides/propagation/techniques/learnhowtoairlayer.aspx
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Nice, that's really cool. I've never seen anything Like thatthat before. Right on thanks kbg
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23734592 - 10/13/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa said: Nice, that's really cool. I've never seen anything Like thatthat before. Right on thanks kbg
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ferrel_human
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kactus.brand.g said: How are yours looking today ferrel?
Good so far. So no complaints.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23734687 - 10/13/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm glad to hear it
I gotta go out check on mine,I gave it a little sun today.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#23735375 - 10/13/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa said:
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ThUmB pRiNt said: Everyone I need some advice please.
I have Bumble B that arrived recently, the stem is about 12 - 15 long and very thin with 4 leafs at the very top and 2 tiny tiny new growth leafs, the 2 main sets are about a half inch apart.
I wanted to know if I cut the top half of that plant off and root it(to make it less lanky, easier to manage, and so that the stem will thicken up easier) will the bottom half of the leafless stem survive and sprout new shoots and leafs since it already has an established root ball of will it parish do to no leafs for photosynthesis?
Love & Light
I'd wait until was a lot bigger and with more shoots before doing any cloning. Krat is a little trickier than other plants... Likely BC its a tree and I find most trees I've worked with are a bit trickier. Its not hard but particular. Sorry y'all I've been meaning on Sharing my cloning method but I've been super busy. I'll post it soon, I promise.
Ferrel, nice plants bro! I Like the plastic bottle method of keeping the tops safe and sound in transit... That's a great idea! They'll bounce back in no tiempo.. Krat is a survivor species... They can stand to get a little ruffed up here and there no problem. Grow on dude.
KBG, nice bro 
Thanks
See its not so much about cloning it.
I just want the plant to be more proportionate because right now its really long 12-15 inches but its extremely skinny and the only 4 leaves it has are at the very top so I was thinking about snipping the top off and rooting it forcing it to be proportionate and hoping the bottom half would also survive since it has a decent little root ball.
But I havent yet decided what Im going to do.
I would like your opinion and anyone else willing to chime in.
Thanks
Love & Light
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
#23735400 - 10/13/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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