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ferrel_human
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24692425 - 10/07/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks man. My bumble bee is the only really healthy one of the bunch.
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Lipa Kreepa
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BBs are some plants bro. They seem To handle everything pretty well. Rifats seem like a solid strain as well. Damn man, I can't believe how big hes gotten
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Lipa Kreepa
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24692630 - 10/07/17 10:18 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like we dodged another bullet here. Thanks for your good vibes y'all 
Going to keep all my delicates inside as a precaution tonight still
Talk about a relief. I don't live in a safe place for these sort of things
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ferrel_human
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24693253 - 10/08/17 06:56 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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That nasty nate was gonna do some hell they said but it turned out ot was just rain.
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ferrel_human
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Well tested thw ph of the run off with those ph strips and it says 7. That cant be good can it?
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JizzMasterZero
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A pH of 7 is a little high, they probably would do better at 6.5 or so. I don't know the lower limit, but the upper limit is about 6.8, especially for rooting clones. Mine are all picked and chopped, I'll bring them inside in a few weeks. Here is my first real harvest. The PVI still needs to spend a day in a parked car before getting ground into powder. I bought a food processor attachment and an old school blender motor at the thrift store. It did a good job, but it's still a little more coarse than commercial kratom, and I need to screen out some of the leaf stems that remained. I may try to sharpen the blade and process it all again to get a finer powder. Once the PVI is done, I think the grand total might be about 1.5 KG. I still haven't tried any of it yet.
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Lipa Kreepa
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Well done Jizz
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24710776 - 10/14/17 10:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does anyone use any mycorrhizae additives in your soil/on your plant's roots? If so, what brands, species, etc. do you recommend? For any experienced growers, what differences have you found that using mycorrhizae additives make with kratom plants specifically? From what I have found, using a mycorrhizae additive to establish the symbiotic relationship with Mitragyna speciosa should have some significant effects on the plant's potency at the very least.
As determined in the research article below, the use of some specific rhizomorphic symbionts with Mitragyna speciosa, appears to significantly increase potency of the primary active compounds!
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168945210003213
Additionally, I have read about the importance of ectomycorrhiza and arbuscular mycorrhiza in the health and growth of various strains of coffee plants, leading to their role in the cultivation of coffee. Seeing as kratom is thought to be related to coffee, it could be the case that these findings also apply to kratom cultivation, which may be even more significant to those of us growing the plants outside of their natural environment. I theorize and hope this is the case as it has been proven that mycorrhiza help coffee to be more resilient to bacterial and parasitic infection, which isn't really surprising as this is the case for most plants anyways. Even if it is an obvious choice to use such additives, I still thought to inquire, in case some more experienced growers have found any contradictory findings, suggesting that a mycorrhiza additive does not seem to have any significant impact on kratom plants. In which case I may consider forgoing on the use of such products as they are certainly not very cheap, especially as I begin to have an increased number of plants.
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! *DELETED* [Re: Sky Walker]
#24710811 - 10/14/17 10:46 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa
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A member k.as. thumbprint use to swear by it. We chatted for a while and he talked me into trying it out. I never could afford a container of the pure additive, bit I did take the plunge n start using happy frog soil as it makes strong claims about having a mycelial element to it. I can say that I've noticed an improvement. Fungi have an enormous resp in the symbiotic relationship w beneficial bacteria and then those two w the plants themselves. It all ties together in a really beautifully dynamic and organized way the more one researches it
But yes,I can agree that kratom enjoys having a fungal element around
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24711979 - 10/15/17 02:03 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been away from home again for a few days. This time my plants caretakers did better job. However there seems to be a minor issue which I wouldn't want to escalate. One of the leafs has started to sort of curl or roll itself up. I'm guessing it may be caused by the low air humidity. When I'm taking care of my plants, I try to mist them as often as possible. My kratom used to be in a plastic dome which had great humidity, but as the plant has grown too large it does no longer fit. I'm probably going to build myself a new dome - shouldn't be too hard. This is how the curled up leaf looks like. Any ideas?
 A while back when a new set of leaves came up, one of the leaves was fucked up, is this just a genetic deformations or did I do something to cause this? My best guess if it isn't a genetic deformations is that it could've been caused by too much light. I've heard that they don't fancy too much light when they're young.
A new set of leaves coming up.
 As promised earlier, a comparison between a leaf set that has been exposed to a lot of light and one that has had less light.
 
I'll sow some new seeds tomorrow, so in a week I should have some new kratom plants going. I've noticed that in the first month after they've come up of the ground, they are extremely sensitive. I'm using a heat grow mat to grow my seedlings. Does anyone have a tip on how to make them stronger in the early stages?
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Lipa Kreepa
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Micaele] 1
#24711999 - 10/15/17 02:14 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are the edges dried out? Ive seen leaf curling from the young clones being too close to the lamps. Not sure if thats whats going on w you, but maybe. What type of lighting are they under and was the growth medium dried out upon your arrival? Do you plan on anchoring them into an organic soil mix soon? Theyre going to need fuel to grow as well as room to do so. Whats your set up if you dont mind me asking?
Glad she survived
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Micaele
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24712053 - 10/15/17 02:43 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa said: Are the edges dried out? Ive seen leaf curling from the young clones being too close to the lamps. Not sure if thats whats going on w you, but maybe. What type of lighting are they under and was the growth medium dried out upon your arrival? Do you plan on anchoring them into an organic soil mix soon? Theyre going to need fuel to grow as well as room to do so. Whats your set up if you dont mind me asking?
Glad she survived 
Hey Lipa No, the edges arent dry at all. All leafs feel fairly fresh. A few weeks back I think I had a light a bit too close, but this problem has come within the past few days. The ones who took care of the plants didn't bother to put out the lights in the evening, perhaps its a light cycle problem? I'm growing it under a 24w fluorescent lamp and a few LED-lights for a total of ~40w. However all of the lights are not directly facing the kratom, plenty of plants sharing. The growth medium wasnt dried up, I checked with a gauge and it was not dried out, not even in the bottom. Is it time for a bigger pot? This gal' goes organic when it comes to soil. No additives. The soil contains some peatnuggets and I've got some clay pellets in the bottom of the pot. The clay pellets was probably a mistake as the drainage is a bit too high.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Micaele] 1
#24712478 - 10/15/17 05:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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So upon taking pinedownpioneer's advice i added iron and some epsom salt to the soil. Then for the 3 days after that we had constant rain. I think it paid off.
New green growth on my rifat.

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Edited by ferrel_human (10/15/17 05:35 PM)
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Lipa Kreepa
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Hmmm, im not sure then Micale. Looks like it could stand a transplant. Id repot mine at that age, maybe a hair before. The leaves looks lush and green, despite the abnormal growth. Keep us update 
And very nice ferrel. What type of iron ferts did you use? I saw a few posts here about the iron and have been very curious since. I think my girls and boys could stand some too.
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#24712550 - 10/15/17 06:16 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone know when/how blood meal should be applied to my kratom?
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ferrel_human
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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: SalviaGod]
#24712616 - 10/15/17 06:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lipa Kreepa said: And very nice ferrel. What type of iron ferts did you use? I saw a few posts here about the iron and have been very curious since. I think my girls and boys could stand some too.
I used ironite from the depot. Very good. Pinedown hit the nail on the head on that one.
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SalviaGod said: Anyone know when/how blood meal should be applied to my kratom?
I use it as often as i dont see anymore on the top. Always top dress. And use coffee grounds as well.
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ferrel_human
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In the wilds of my backyard. Night edition.
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ferrel_human said: So upon taking pinedownpioneer's advice i added iron and some epsom salt to the soil. Then for the 3 days after that we had constant rain. I think it paid off.
New green growth on my rifat.


You had a problem called, Interveinal chlorosis. I know you hate the technical jibber jabber but I only mention it because I care. 
Same thing was the problem with your Gardenia. They love chelated magnesium for their uptake of nitrogen. Nom nom nom...
Shout out to pinedownpioneer for knowing the fix.
I recommend growers learn about this problem. It's common in a lot of garden settings on a range of plants. I'd say it's in the top Ten problems I deal with regularly while maintaining gardens when asked why a plant isn't doing well.
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