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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #23895621 - 12/05/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They look almost identical. My rifat and bumvle bee show no difference.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23895695 - 12/05/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Bumble Bee, Rifat, and Pink Vein Indo are all very similar, especially when small. The BB will become more apparent as the plants get larger this summer. BB will outgrow the Rifat, and it will be more bushy with more branches. If the top is left uncut, BB will take the shape of a Christmas tree, with the bottom most branches being extensively branched. All my Rifats have been cut, so I can't compare. But, it the top is cut, Rifat will still tend to grow upward, whereas BB will grow outward and even downward, making multiple branches. You're doing great keeping your plants active during the winter, but the real show doesn't start until they are guzzling water in full sun this summer. Bumble Bee will grow like a monster, and you're likely to get 50+ cuttings from it in 2017 if you want them.


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    #23895698 - 12/05/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23895738 - 12/05/16 01:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)


Check out this baby, a tri-leaf Red Vein Indo! This isn't my plant, but I hope to get cutting from it this spring and add it to the collection!


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23896332 - 12/05/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I got green malaysian coming today. :excited:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23896438 - 12/05/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wow! That red is intense, so beautiful!


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Gibbering_wreck]
    #23898740 - 12/06/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Late night present opening.

Green malaysian.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23899084 - 12/06/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those look lovely, how long did they take to arrive? Do they get effected from the long trips?


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23899149 - 12/06/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Those look lovely, how long did they take to arrive? Do they get effected from the long trips?




4 days or so. They got rerouted. The trip didnt seem to affect as much as my relative humidity in the house. Ill take them outlater when it warms up a bit.

They look pretty down.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23899245 - 12/06/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That GM looks great! Looks like it was rooted in rock wool, that's how I do it. I consider it normal for it to wilt at first. Before it was sent to you, it was in a warm environment with 100% humidity, kind of like the plant version of the ICU. You should plant that in soil, water well, and put in a large clear plastic box for several days. You could also cover it with a large zip lock bag and use a rubber band to secure the open end to the pot. It needs some more time in 100% humidity for the roots to mature and expand into the soil.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23899274 - 12/06/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Here is a photo showing both methods. I usually keep the lid completely on the box for a few days, then remove them, watch closely, and put back in when they wilt. If you're not around to watch them, put the lid on crooked like this.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23899296 - 12/06/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

By the way, that GM looks like the one I was referring to earlier. I have a larger mother plant going dormant now, it won't wake up until mid to late June. Here is a clone from late summer/ early autumn 2015. Notice how small it is. For comparison, Bumble Bees done at the same time ended up being nearly 6 feet tall at the end of the season. Also notice the general shape and structure. It has a strong tendency to grow upward and not branch as much when compared to all of the others, especially BB. This clone (and the BBs) went dormant last winter. It didn't really even start growing until late August. I'm keeping it warm and in adequate light this winter so it will get a head start in 2017


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #23899316 - 12/06/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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By the way, that GM looks like the one I was referring to earlier. I have a larger mother plant going dormant now, it won't wake up until mid to late June. Here is a clone from late summer/ early autumn 2015. Notice how small it is. For comparison, Bumble Bees done at the same time ended up being nearly 6 feet tall at the end of the season. Also notice the general shape and structure. It has a strong tendency to grow upward and not branch as much when compared to all of the others, especially BB. This clone (and the BBs) went dormant last winter. It didn't really even start growing until late August. I'm keeping it warm and in adequate light this winter so it will get a head start in 2017





I dont know how these youngins are gonna fare. Its too cold for them to go outside all day. My rifats and bumblebee and hirsutas have been champs outside. Even my erythroxylym and cacao have taken well to the cold. But thats for another thread.

Now, if i cant afford the big 21 dollar bag of perlite, what can i do to lighten the soil? I need a good soil i can buy in a bag but i dont want that miracle grow crap. And i dont want to spend all my cash. I could make a run 30 minutes away to buy a 4 dollar bag of burpee soil but it seems rather far away. I dont know what else i xan readily get thats any good.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23899447 - 12/06/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Crushed up packaging peanuts can be used in a pinch as perlite. It's not natural and not sure what it breaks down into but I wouldn't sweat it in a pinch.  Water and mist those clones for a day or two in a clear box or bag after you pot them.  I'm glad they got to you ok besides a little wilt from the extended stay.  Lemme know if you need anything. And pleasure doing business with ya!


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23899458 - 12/06/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Totally cool man. I put them outside. Its warming up and i gotta go get a bag of soil.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23900250 - 12/06/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This is what i should have done in the first place.

Ecoscrap potting soil.


I think they will like it. :awebig:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23900423 - 12/06/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Keep them misted and they will thrive!


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    #23900593 - 12/06/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Keep them misted and they will thrive!




I never do but the nights are humid. Like jungle humid. They shouls be fine


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23900679 - 12/06/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I usually just mist the outside plants on the dry days following a cold front. You are much farther south so it may not be as much of a problem


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23902358 - 12/07/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Check out this baby, a tri-leaf Red Vein Indo! This isn't my plant, but I hope to get cutting from it this spring and add it to the collection!




Very Nice I need one of these as well.

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Damn I also need a Green Malay.

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I got green malaysian coming today. :excited:





Ferrel.... I need a Green Malay... Help


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