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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23802862 - 11/05/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm w KBG. They look good. The red is good... Might be a hair hungry, but it doesn't look starving.

I need to try coffee grounds out. I dot drink it but have access to as much used stuff as needed. How much do you like to use per feeding KBG? And how often do you feed?

I usually use liquid ferts like Earth Juice. But I'd like to get down with some more methods... More touch and feel organic feedings (not sure if that makes sense. But Ill go with it).


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #23802919 - 11/05/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lipa Kreepa said:
Yeah I'm w KBG. They look good. The red is good... Might be a hair hungry, but it doesn't look starving.

I need to try coffee grounds out. I dot drink it but have access to as much used stuff as needed. How much do you like to use per feeding KBG? And how often do you feed?

I usually use liquid ferts like Earth Juice. But I'd like to get down with some more methods... More touch and feel organic feedings (not sure if that makes sense. But Ill go with it).





Well,I did some experiments,and I found,that when I was going out spending tons of money on fertilizers my plants looked very well,but but not well enough justifying shelling out all that money monthly!

I then went to using my own urine,which in no time had my plants producing more fruit,and looking overall healthier than when I spent all that money on expensive fertilizers.

Now,I haven't even used urine for fertilizer,haven't in over  a month,and my garden still looks better than it did in the beginning with fertilizers.

So now,I've dropped the urine,and just give a few spoon fulls of coffee grounds to all my potted plants,and they love it!

I refuse to ever spend another cent on fertilizers,when I can make my own right at home piratically free,and have my plants looking as good if not better than all those Glossy,expensive,fancy multicolored bottles of common nutrients,that can be gotten for a fraction of the price you'd spend on all those:wink:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23803119 - 11/05/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I do a layer of of coffee grounds. Works great.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23805212 - 11/06/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Great post KBG :grin::thumbup: I'll give it a go. Like I said I don't drink coffee but I know someone who could get me all the spent grounds I could ever want, so that's pretty cool. Sooo for a small potted plant, how many teaspoons is enough and same with a larger pot? Also how often do you generally feed them? Last question, do you sprinkle before you do a watering? One more... Do they tend to break down at a good rate... Say only taking what they need or is there a risk for nute OD and burn?

I know I don't feed my plants enough. I guess I need to be a better dad in that regard. Thanks for the help guys


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #23805342 - 11/06/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Man I dont know what the heck is up with me but first I knock off a new growth on the lower part of my Bumble B before it could even reach a quarter inch in length; now I knock off 1 of only 2 leaves off of the RVT cutting Im rooting under a humidity tent while misting the tent. It's been under the tent for 19 days and I have yet to notice any growth on this little guy. Im not sure if it has rooted yet but I dont want to tug on it to find out.

Do you guys think it will be okay with just one leaf if it hasnt rooted yet?

I know... I know... I over worry about things and I over think things...

Worst case scenario Ill get another but Im just trying to find out more. 

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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #23805479 - 11/06/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lipa Kreepa said:
Great post KBG :grin::thumbup: I'll give it a go. Like I said I don't drink coffee but I know someone who could get me all the spent grounds I could ever want, so that's pretty cool. Sooo for a small potted plant, how many teaspoons is enough and same with a larger pot? Also how often do you generally feed them? Last question, do you sprinkle before you do a watering? One more... Do they tend to break down at a good rate... Say only taking what they need or is there a risk for nute OD and burn?

I know I don't feed my plants enough. I guess I need to be a better dad in that regard. Thanks for the help guys





Sometimes less,is more:wink:

Thanks man,and all I do is just do a fine layer of coffee grounds all over the whole pot.
I just spread it n like spreading butter on toast,so to speak.
So,every time you water,your plants gets a good dose of Nitrogen.

It usually totally degrades in a month,and then I add another top dressing.


I sometimes water with straight strong black coffee undiluted too,and it never burns my plants!


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23806203 - 11/06/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Beautiful. Thanks a million brother:grin:
:seriousthumbsup:

I got some grounds coming my way tonight:cool:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #23806320 - 11/06/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Man one of my plants FINALLY shot out a really healthy looking leaf after a few days of being in the sun and I was going to post a pic all excited. But i didn't pull it in one cold night and the edges turned black :facepalm: Good to know its still trying though. Might have to get an indoor setup going soon here just for consistency.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23810270 - 11/07/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok,so little,er should I say Big Bumblebee has surpassed Richelle is growth!!!




On a side note Richelle is sick,and her leaves are totally curved downward:sad:
I wanted to take her pic,but she wouldn't let me,her looking  is such dire shape,and all.

I have an extreme annually fungus gnat problem,and I left my fan blowing on them both the other night,to dry the top layer of soil out,plus it got pretty darn cold in my room that night.

It didn't phase Bumblebee,but I think this is what made Richelle sick,I'm not certain though.

It also could be the fungus gnat larvae destroying the roots,worst case scenario:facepalm:

Hopefully this wont be her undoing,because I love that plant so:yesnod:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23810725 - 11/07/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The lid of my humidity box got knocked off and the 3 leaf buds my plant had along with about a cm on the end of the stem shriveled up. So now it's just a stick. WIll it be OK?


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23810884 - 11/07/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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saythatagain said:
The lid of my humidity box got knocked off and the 3 leaf buds my plant had along with about a cm on the end of the stem shriveled up. So now it's just a stick. WIll it be OK?




Pics?

Quote:

kactus.brand.g said:
Ok,so little,er should I say Big Bumblebee has surpassed Richelle is growth!!!




On a side note Richelle is sick,and her leaves are totally curved downward:sad:
I wanted to take her pic,but she wouldn't let me,her looking  is such dire shape,and all.

I have an extreme annually fungus gnat problem,and I left my fan blowing on them both the other night,to dry the top layer of soil out,plus it got pretty darn cold in my room that night.

It didn't phase Bumblebee,but I think this is what made Richelle sick,I'm not certain though.

It also could be the fungus gnat larvae destroying the roots,worst case scenario:facepalm:

Hopefully this wont be her undoing,because I love that plant so:yesnod:




Pics and i gotta see pics. Mine are totally great. Both of them seed grown. Going strong.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23810971 - 11/07/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ferrel_human said:
Quote:

saythatagain said:
The lid of my humidity box got knocked off and the 3 leaf buds my plant had along with about a cm on the end of the stem shriveled up. So now it's just a stick. WIll it be OK?




Pics?

Quote:

kactus.brand.g said:
Ok,so little,er should I say Big Bumblebee has surpassed Richelle is growth!!!




On a side note Richelle is sick,and her leaves are totally curved downward:sad:
I wanted to take her pic,but she wouldn't let me,her looking  is such dire shape,and all.

I have an extreme annually fungus gnat problem,and I left my fan blowing on them both the other night,to dry the top layer of soil out,plus it got pretty darn cold in my room that night.

It didn't phase Bumblebee,but I think this is what made Richelle sick,I'm not certain though.

It also could be the fungus gnat larvae destroying the roots,worst case scenario:facepalm:

Hopefully this wont be her undoing,because I love that plant so:yesnod:




Pics and i gotta see pics. Mine are totally great. Both of them seed grown. Going strong.




From seed? Do you have anymore seed?


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23810983 - 11/07/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wow thats a beauty!

I need some beautiful plants like yours.

I dont know if Im being too picky or if its just that my plants are still to young or what but I feel that some other people like you have much better looking Kratms than me.

:frown:

Love & Light

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I guess I just have to be patient... :frown:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #23810986 - 11/07/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No way. I had more than a hundred seedlings but as with all kratom only a few survive. Thrice i have grown it. Every time just a few, and i stress a few, make it. Just sad.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23811290 - 11/07/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well Brother Im really glad it at least worked out to where you have a few that have made it.

I hope to in the very near future have something you would take as a trade for some cuttings of your fresh genetics.

Maybe a cash trade, but I have to start working first for this route.

Im having a really hard time finding work.

If you dont mind that is.

And I really hope its okay with you.

Specially now that this is happening...

Ive posted a couple times about this Rifat in this thread but I only got suggestions from 1 or 2 members you and someone else if Im not mistaken.

This plant has been growing much slower than the others I got at the same time as this one.

I tried the coffee grounds and it has not helped at all. The plant is actually worse now. However I dont think the coffee made it worst, I think it was inevitable.

I think it might be bacteria but Im not sure.

This plant has two shoots as if it were topped at some point but one of them is bigger and more developed than the other. First the edges on the tips of the leaves were red-ish and now its spreading, now there are also lots of spots on the leaves, there is a red spot or 2 on the stem, even the new leaves are affected now, it started on the new growth very shortly after they came out, and one of the older leaves is deteriorating much faster than the others and it is curling down ward; its turning grey-ish and it also has the red spots.


The small leaves here are new growth on the less developed shoot, they are already very damaged and they just cam out a couple days ago. Besides the 1 thats curling up and greying these 2 seem to be the ones that are worse off. Its been 2 days since I took the pics and these 2 smaller leaves are worse than they were in this pic  

Here is another angle

Can you please help me save this little baby? Somebody please help! I really want to save this little baby. Im unemployed and recently lost just about everything I owned except a few things due to a nasty divorce, Im am rebuilding my collection from scratch and I spent way to much money that I didnt have on this cutting. I really need to make sure it survives.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23811606 - 11/08/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ok,I put some cigarette lighters standing under her leaves to make them stick back out straight overnight,and it worked!

Her new tiny set about to protrude is extremely red and gnarled looking though,and I will post pics for you after I get back from wok this morning:thumbup:


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #23811750 - 11/08/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ThUmB pRiNt said:
Wow thats a beauty!

I need some beautiful plants like yours.

I dont know if Im being too picky or if its just that my plants are still to young or what but I feel that some other people like you have much better looking Kratms than me.

:frown:

Love & Light

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I guess I just have to be patient... :frown:





Thanks buddy,and sorry I can't help,but I no absolutely nothing about this plant,and this is only me second go trying to grow it.

I am still learning,and that is why I made this thread:cool:

Maybe someone that is experienced will chime in eventually and help you out before it's too late.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23811761 - 11/08/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah,she drooped back down by the time I got back home:facepalm:

She is not nearly as bad as she was last night though,the leaves were curled all the way totally down to the soil,but to me,she still looks awful.



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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23811799 - 11/08/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh yeah,she drooped back down by the time I got back home:facepalm:

She is not nearly as bad as she was last night though,the leaves were curled all the way totally down to the soil,but to me,she still looks awful.






Why is the soil so dry? The leaves get like that because lack of water.


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Re: Mitragyna Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23811829 - 11/08/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ferrel_human said:
Quote:

kactus.brand.g said:
Oh yeah,she drooped back down by the time I got back home:facepalm:

She is not nearly as bad as she was last night though,the leaves were curled all the way totally down to the soil,but to me,she still looks awful.






Why is the soil so dry? The leaves get like that because lack of water.




I agree with Ferrel because this happen with one of the Bumble B's; the portion of leaf that curled later dried up and broke off.

But that hasnt happen since I keep them watered.

I just wish I could figure out whats wrong with my Rifat. :confused:

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