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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: NeuroJuice] 1
#26783786 - 06/26/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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  Tap water in a cup method. Soil wet with tap water method.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: BattyKoda]
#26783858 - 06/26/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why do you leave so much leaf on your clone? Then it Has to work that much harder to keep all of it self hydrated just cut the leaves down into small little triangles that’s plenty for it to absorb what it needs and it doesn’t have to work harder trying to keep all that leaf hydrated. My tapwater destroys the clones in under 12 hours they will turn into a goo before morning. As I move on I am noticing that the clones are happening faster and more frequently I am cloning from clones that were cloned from clones so maybe they are evolving to clone easier as the ones that are able to clone are the ones that reproduce also I am better able to monitor the conditions there humidity stays around the 95 and the temperature around 90 they def clone better in warmer temps it seems.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26784056 - 06/26/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's basically the water in a cup method but encapsulated so you don't need a huge humidity dome.
I've noticed that the biggest problem with the setup is mold and that it takes forever. Maybe rooting hormone will speed things up, but I haven't tried yet. The leafs don't dry out at all and seem fresh even a few weeks after the cutting (unless mold attacks, in which case they usually fall off and the cutting is fine).
The little bottle top in the middle works as support for smaller clones, it wasn't necessary for the clone in the picture. You can't see it in the picture, but I keep the lid on the top cover of the bottle. Also, there's cuts on the top cover and the bottom. They're not necessary for the bottom, but I put them on there because I was using the bottom of the bottle as a humidity dome with solo cups.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26784102 - 06/26/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah even with the arrow mist system you Gotta keep your water correct I’ve recently installed aquarium filters in my cloner tanks along with Lawn and garden antifungal and clone X it definitely makes a huge difference keeping your water filtered and slime free definitely increases your number of successful clones
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26784126 - 06/26/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jakeoncid419 said: Yeah even with the arrow mist system you Gotta keep your water correct I’ve recently installed aquarium filters in my cloner tanks along with Lawn and garden antifungal and clone X it definitely makes a huge difference keeping your water filtered and slime free definitely increases your number of successful clones
I'm probably gonna set up an aerocloner soon, thanks for the advice! Is the investment in a tote cloner much bigger than a 3 gallon bucket cloner?
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26784295 - 06/26/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can recommend building one of the Fogponic cloner units. They use these cheap ultrasonic fogger units found on ebay for about 2 Euros. They really work well and is much less work than one of those cloners with water sprayers. Some of the ultrasonic cloners stop working after some use but when they are so cheap it doesnt really matter. Maybe one can get a more well built utrasonic fogger unit but it is probably more expensive.
Shroomery user Micaele that built the first units has posted a buildguide here: DIY Fogponic by Micaele
Look at these roots i got in my unit quite quickly. Should be very good for kratom cuttings.

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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#26784466 - 06/26/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That looks awesome! I'll see if I can get them as cheap! Last I checked they were a bit more expensive than that but not by too much.
Do you use them for fogoponics? I've been wanting to try out hydroponics for a while but I don't know how well a setup like that would work. I found a tutorial that mentioned herbs and greens, but if I'm not mistaken that usually means it's not great for more substantial crops like tomato or cannabis.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26786232 - 06/27/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I only use the fogoponic box for cuttings. But i see no reason why one should not be able to grow by this method also. Maybe the variants that use water sprayers would be more economical in the long run. But there are more work to build them with pipes, pumps etc.
If you want to try out hydroponics you can build a bubbler bucket. They are easily constructed and works amazingly well. I put a Kratom plant in a bubbler bucket and it grew like on rocket fuel. A bubbler bucket are a normal bucket with lid that you cut out a circular hole in the lid for a net-pot filled with leca balls or similar. Use an akvarium air pump with a bubbler stone in the end of the air-hose. Put the air-stone in the bucket floor and fill with water and a weak NPK fertilizer solution. The plant roots should be washed to get rid of any soil and put in the net-pot with leca balls. Thats it, connect the airpump to the outlet and start growing bubbler bucket style. The water+fertilizer solution should be say 5cm lower than the net-pot. The bubbles will make the air inside filled with water vapour and the roots of the plant will grow down in the water + fertilizer solution. After a while the plant and the root-ball becomes huge.
If you search online for DIY bubbler bucket there are lots of guides. Its a cheap way to try hydroponics and works amazingly well.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Mateo]
#26794368 - 06/30/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks a bunch Mateo <3
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: ninja cat 09] 1
#26795764 - 06/30/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Finally getting cloning down for the kratom! I’m now pulling roots in 7 to 10 days at a 95% success rate. I also have wild lettuce ( Lactuca virosa ) coming up (seeding trays) which I will experiment with in using as one of the ingredients for my opiate detox supplement along with Kratom California poppy’s Cordyceps & cbd’s 

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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: LifeUnderAwno]
#26795847 - 06/30/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just started them they are in the seedling trays above, That’s interesting about reishi I happen to be growing about 15 blocks of it right now I’ll definitely experiment with that
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26797711 - 07/01/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried fresh aloe Vera gel in place of rooting hormone? I read that it works very well but haven’t tried it yet as my plants aren’t big enough to clone yet.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: NeuroJuice] 1
#26814910 - 07/10/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26814945 - 07/10/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking lush green and healthy Jake Plants are uber happy in there...
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Zifozonke]
#26816903 - 07/11/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I’ve only the one but this is my first success growing one Love the image above showing so many hahaha!
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Spellbound]
#26817400 - 07/11/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jake, the greenhouse is really starting to fill in. I just put some trees in the ground this year. Waiting for them to get established.
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: turtle_hermit]
#26832892 - 07/19/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now it’s really filling in
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26833196 - 07/19/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Kratom Growers Thread. [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26833392 - 07/19/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like you doing a awesome job with your plants//extracts I know Id have so much fun ..... Awesome awesome!!
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