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Hylocereus undatus cultivation
    #23693074 - 09/30/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So ive been very curious about cactus lately, especially since a buddy of mine gave me this huge cutting of what is commonly known as the dragonfruit cactus.

I have no experience growing cactus whatsoever but i have read these are not your typical cactus.

Here's what ive read
  A.) They like the soil wetter than most cacti
  B.) They like a 50/50 mix of soil and perlite
    C.) They like a bit more shade than other cacti species
      D.) It takes up to a couple    years to see fruit when started from seedling

        E.) And of course, they look and taste amazing not to mention the flowers that bloom at night look cool

anyways, i know there are some awesome cactus farmers on this site, and any nuggets of info would be greatly appreciated!

Some cool pics


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23693142 - 09/30/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have much experience with this type of cactus. I once grew a couple of plants in a garden by basically neglecting them after putting them on the ground, but they never flowered (probably lack of sunlight). I don't believe a "couple of years" is enough to see them flower from seed, more like 5+. I don't like perlite, but I imagine they would favour a cactus mix rather heavy on the humus side - say, 2 parts soil to one part grit.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: LSoares]
    #23693185 - 09/30/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome thanks man.

I wonder how long it would take these clippings to fruit, they are probably a year old or a little older.

What do you recommend for grit?


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23693267 - 09/30/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Post a pic of the cuttings, but my guess is some years, depending on the conditions you can provide. Think more of orchids than cacti for this one. :wink:

Any grit will do, as long as it's not limestone, eggshell, gypsum, dolomite, etc. These are jungle plants, used to acidic conditions.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: LSoares]
    #23693275 - 09/30/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What grow zone are you in?

I have a nice plant that spaceman sent me about two years ago,and it will never fruit.

I think grow zone 9b is a minimum with this plant for flowering and fruit production.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23693475 - 09/30/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm growing them from seed
I've just got them in Coco coir and coarse sand
I guess I'm gonna give them some peat moss
Maybe some lava rocks
I'm going to be using them as grafting stock though
They grow really fast, much faster than trich seedlings
Can't find the pics right now but I will


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23693835 - 09/30/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thanks for the repies guys!

I live in the Caribbean near Puerto Rico.

Heres the cutting


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23693839 - 09/30/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Very nice,you can get fruits for sure then!


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #23693892 - 09/30/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:dancer:


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23700820 - 10/02/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So i went with Lsoares's advice and mixed 2 parts miracle grow cactus soil and 1 part perlite ( all i had for grit at the moment) and put a lil mulch around the clipping to help water retention.



I also have a huge bag of coco coir and access to beach sand if you guys had a ratio with coir for the other clippings.


Edited by Nobler Hino (10/02/16 04:29 PM)


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23701636 - 10/02/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome stuff there. I bought a dragonfruit the other day
and saved some seeds. I'm gonna see if I can get some
going. I would love to have these around.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: myceliups]
    #23702415 - 10/03/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah i love them, my buddy mixes tequila with dragonfruit :dancer:

The ground is pretty much covered with them in the bushy areas around here which is strange because i never see any fruits on them.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23702421 - 10/03/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That may be because they're all the same clone that spread by cuttings and is auto-sterile (meaning you will need to cross-polinate the flowers with a plant from a different origin for it to set fruit).


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: LSoares]
    #23702775 - 10/03/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Man ive got some homework to do lol

I have a buddy that has a huge farm and he has these fruiting out there.
When i get the chance ill send pics.


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23702803 - 10/03/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The ones I grew from seed came out of a fruit I bought from China Town
Can't remember what color it was but it wasn't the tastiest variety I've had


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23703592 - 10/03/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cool man, do you guys think this is a good species to begin with? Noob friendly?


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23703644 - 10/03/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Extremely, I've been growing lophs and trich from seed at the same time so these have not been a huge priority,
They've grown much faster than the others and I've worried about them less
Cereus is also real easy from seed


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Re: Hylocereus undatus cultivation [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23704013 - 10/03/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, and i know what you mean about the quality of taste being off at times



This one is very seedy and has the texture of a boiled bannana lol.

This one was actually collected from the jungle around here which is pretty suprising.


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