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Taking 4-aco-DMT for first time? Need advice. Please HELP
    #23692301 - 09/29/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I am thinking about doing this RC and I dont have any psychedelic experience. I have 1P LSD and 4-aco-dmt. People say that 1P lsd is more hard than 4 aco dmt which is much like shrooms. So I think ill probably start with 4 aco dmt.

This will be my first psychedelic and I really need some advices here. So i am thinking if i can do it all alone or do i need to have a sitter? I am more of an introvert person and feel alot better and calm when I am alone. I do have friends but when I am with my friends, I cant look within rather Im more absorbed in their conversations and their feelings. Introspection doesnt work well when I am with people.

Ill probably take small dose first and then increase. So I wonder if will be able to control my self and dont do stupid things. I dont wanna run out of my house naked into the streets.

Mod Edit- No dosage advice

Edited by DustBunny (09/29/16 10:19 PM)

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Re: Taking 4-aco-DMT for first time? Need advice. Please HELP [Re: Enlightenment 1]
    #23692321 - 09/29/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Assuming you arn't a retard you should be fine.

Also having not done 1p i would recommend a low dose of 4 aco


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Re: Taking 4-aco-DMT for first time? Need advice. Please HELP [Re: Enlightenment 1]
    #23692386 - 09/29/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No dosage advice for anything but the drugs discussed in The Psychedelic Experience forum. The right choice is the one which sounds preferable, the two are pretty different and neither is  really easier/more friendly in general. Many feel 1P-LSD or LSD are uncomfortably strong, many feel 4-AcO-DMT pr mushrooms are The difference in duration alone is probably a huge factor.

For what it's worth, I'm very glad my first few trips were with friends also tripping, besides a couple sober yet experienced with psychedelics. Yes, you can think introspectively around friends, psyches make us space out and mostly involuntarily think deeply. Someone could easily freak out out having one's first psychedelic experience alone, at even moderate doses. They can of course get very weird and extremely uncomfortable (or worse) at times, and someone who say didn't know muscle spasms and GI pain are common (especially in lysergamides) might very well think something bad is happening. Ambulance rides, hospital visits, and legal trouble are all really expensive.


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Re: Taking 4-aco-DMT for first time? Need advice. Please HELP [Re: Enlightenment 1]
    #23692459 - 09/29/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would recommend having a trip sitter for your first psychedelic experience. 
Take a low dose.
Be in a good mindset, ready for adventure.
Be in a safe environment.

4-aco-dmt is awesome.

I haven't tried 1P-LSD, but I think I've read it's good, too.




ps - in case you're a kid who still lives with your parents, please don't take drugs unless your parents are on vacation or something.  Just don't dose upstairs while your parents are sleeping or something.


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Re: Taking 4-aco-DMT for first time? Need advice. Please HELP [Re: Enlightenment 1]
    #23693428 - 09/30/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do whatever makes you most comfortable, if you want to be alone, just make sure you maybe have someone you can talk to, even over the phone. Atleast for the first time. I want you to get a scale if you don't have one. How are you planning on dosing? It seems equipotent via insufflation or oral dosing. I suggest oral dosing because it's not as sharp of a come-up or come-down and the burn of insufflation can effect your mood and perceptions while it's apparent. Easiest way to do this is take a piece of kleenex and separate the layers until you have one, cut a 1x1'2 piece. Put your dose in the middle, fold it over then get it in the middle, pinch the dose with a little extra kleenex, then rip off the excess. Roll and swallow with water.

My only advice is to be impartial to your thoughts as much as possible and just enjoy yourself. This is an excellent chem and I'd say you've chosen well for your first experience. If you feel any apprehension about the dosage compared to the relative safety of this research chemical, I often take doses 100mg+ without any issues. Enjoy. :thumbup:

Edit: I just want to point out that I am in no way recommending dosages of that level to anyone.. it is an unresearched chemical even if the science makes sense. I just personally would have found something like that comforting during my experience. Half of that or less is very much the full experience.. my gf took 35mg the other day and had full on kaleidoscoping for most of the trip, heavy morphing ect.

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