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br33zy
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PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!!
#23692047 - 09/29/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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All, the ban is NOT going into effect tomorrow. The DEA seems to be backing off, but we should keep calling and fighting. The DEA has stated that they will give at least 48 hours beforehand if they plan to implement the ban after all. This is good news, but doesn't quite mean we have won yet. Let's keep the pressure on the DEA. This information comes from the American Kratom Association and I vouch for it. I am sure others here can confirm. Proof that our efforts have not been wasted. Sorry if you guys were already aware of this.
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Edited by br33zy (09/29/16 08:23 PM)
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: br33zy]
#23692068 - 09/29/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PBS ran a story regarding the kratom ban retarding research.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23692082 - 09/29/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Woah, I'm not really a kratom fan but I was sad to see that it was being banned because of the impact it would have on so many people. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear this is the case.
It couldn't really just be public outcry that did it? Right? I know that they're keeping weed scheduled because it's more beneficial financially to the DEA that way, maybe they just realized that making kratom illegal wouldn't pay off enough to justify the going against the very vocal public's opposing opinion?
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
#23692104 - 09/29/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: Woah, I'm not really a kratom fan but I was sad to see that it was being banned because of the impact it would have on so many people. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear this is the case.
It couldn't really just be public outcry that did it? Right? I know that they're keeping weed scheduled because it's more beneficial financially to the DEA that way, maybe they just realized that making kratom illegal wouldn't pay off enough to justify the going against the very vocal public's opposing opinion?
Most likely a mix of the march at Washington DC, public protests, and the letter that we were able to get 51 Congressmen/women sign and send.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
#23692125 - 09/29/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
pirate-blues said: Woah, I'm not really a kratom fan but I was sad to see that it was being banned because of the impact it would have on so many people. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear this is the case.
It couldn't really just be public outcry that did it? Right? I know that they're keeping weed scheduled because it's more beneficial financially to the DEA that way, maybe they just realized that making kratom illegal wouldn't pay off enough to justify the going against the very vocal public's opposing opinion?
Didn't think about it but that sounds good. It's actually probably going to cost them much more money to enforce the ban than they could ever hope to make off of it.
Not that wasting money has ever stopped them.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: br33zy]
#23692127 - 09/29/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you even read what they said. They havent halted the paperwork to ban it, it's just that sept 30th is not the exact day it will be banned. Sorry to be a wet blacket but I don't mind being the bad guy.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: Love_spirit]
#23692141 - 09/29/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate to agree with you on anything in this topic... But that is exactly why I'm not celebrating. No one knows what the hell they're doing yet. I'm sure they're pushing it back, if only very slightly, because of the public pressure. But we haven't really won anything yet. They may just be throwing us a bone to shut us up while they eat the steak.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#23692182 - 09/29/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just wanna say: people, you did it. that's awesome.
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br33zy
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23692184 - 09/29/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Did you even read what they said. They havent halted the paperwork to ban it, it's just that sept 30th is not the exact day it will be banned. Sorry to be a wet blacket but I don't mind being the bad guy.
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CookieCrumbs said: I hate to agree with you on anything in this topic... But that is exactly why I'm not celebrating. No one knows what the hell they're doing yet. I'm sure they're pushing it back, if only very slightly, because of the public pressure. But we haven't really won anything yet. They may just be throwing us a bone to shut us up while they eat the steak.
Exactly why I said we should keep pressure on them. This isn't a win yet, but it did buy us time.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23692187 - 09/29/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i just wanna say: people, you did it. that's awesome.

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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: br33zy]
#23692195 - 09/29/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuckin catfives all around.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: br33zy]
#23692207 - 09/29/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh don't get me wrong, the fact they are giving ground at all means alot. I think it's the first step, the only step they'd take at first if they plan on truly postponing the ban for any meaningful amount of time. For research.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23692344 - 09/29/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure it's really giving ground, or just explaining how bans like this work. They didn't really say anything different. At the end of last month we found out "Kratom is being emergency scheduled after September 30", not that it's specifically starting on Oct 1 or anything. Not to be a cynic, just realistic.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: DustBunny]
#23692354 - 09/29/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The 30 days that they needed are coming up that they are "required" to file before hand after that they can do it whenever they want to.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: tdubz]
#23692390 - 09/29/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does that mean there is still time to order some via the clear net?
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: Bigfeely123] 2
#23692413 - 09/29/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Depends on the vendors, a lot of them have been clearing house since the ban was first announced.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: Sham87]
#23692589 - 09/29/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see. Hmmmm... Out of the 20 or so times I've tried kratom only a few times have I got any worthwhile effects from it.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: br33zy]
#23692877 - 09/30/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amazing! way to go collectively.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: DustBunny]
#23693342 - 09/30/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah I say that more because their statements have been a steady set of backpedaling. First was "it has no medicinal value and we can't say its safer than any other drugs" then it was "oh well it appears that some people actually use it as medicine" up to the DEA spokesman saying it should definitely be recognized as a medicine. That means we are gaining ground. If nothing else they will be contradicting themselves at this point.
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Re: PSA: Kratom will NOT be Banned/Scheduled Tomorrow!!! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23693356 - 09/30/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am sure my 25 dollar donation to the Kratom Association stopped this DEA action.
You are all welcome.
You may now all nod and itch in synchronized appreciation.
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