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Was I taking research chems?
#23691626 - 09/29/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edit: It seems most likely that it was ald-52
I am referring to the blotters described in this thread right here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22819573#22819573
They had a picture of a nice mushroom on the front and it came from a guy in germany. They were said to be 200 mics, and the other 200 mic tabs I have gotten turned strong purple in elrich reagent right away, but these ones took a minute and were a soft purple.
This made sense at the time because I'm pretty sure they were more like 40-80 mics strengh wise. Although I noticed very different and actually much better effects than I get from other lsd. It was such an incredibly dark but safe clean feeling. It just shot me back to my early childhood before I stopped noticing the ambient sounds of the wind, and the planes, and the cars.
Other LSD feels more chaotic and intoxicating, the only negative I got from this one was kind of a sharp feeling in one part of my stomach. Also the tabs were pricey since I generally took 2 or three and got only minor perception changes. This was the second time I tried lsd, and I tripped with the shroom tabs about 8 times. I took a 6 month break and now I have yet to find lsd even close to as nice as this. (I took these in public with no problem, now I couldn't even imagine taking what I have, too unpredictable.)
If you dont want to read all that basically I got this lsd with an amazing clean feeling that tested weakly positive for lsd, it was much less distressing than other lsd and was very nice, also very minimal visual distortion.
Do you guys think this was a tiny amount of an indole and laced with rc's (what are the effects of the nbome and dox chemicals compared to lsd?) Or was this just very well purified lsd?
psychedelics stress me out more than they used too, so maybe I just don't experience the chemical the same way now. Any input from someone who has tried these tabs and other lsd would be appreciated. (and anyone who knows about the effects of rc's.)
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23691664 - 09/29/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD-52 100% it's basically really good LSD. It's my favorite substance currently no anxiety, no vaso constriction, no manic thoughts pure bliss. It tested weakly because of the slow metabolizing acetyl group
It's the safest version of LSD you can take, and I prefer it to LSD-25
You can order it to your doorstep if you want
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23691709 - 09/29/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: ALD-52 100% it's basically really good LSD. It's my favorite substance currently no anxiety, no vaso constriction, no manic thoughts pure bliss. It tested weakly because of the slow metabolizing acetyl group
It's the safest version of LSD you can take, and I prefer it to LSD-25
huh, I'll definitely have to look into this. I generally say no to rc's, but if it's probably safe I will be very tempted to do it.
It was just so nice I might make this one of my exceptions.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23691732 - 09/29/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's LSD-25 with an acetyl group on it, an organic chain in chemistry. Aspirin also used an acetyl group as well as most melatonin supplements.
Original formula was invented by Hofmann
A few studies 1/5th toxicity and 1/8th pyretogenic effect (vasoconstriction/blood pressure)
Just a calmer cleaner version of LSD
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23691840 - 09/29/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: It's LSD-25 with an acetyl group on it, an organic chain in chemistry. Aspirin also used an acetyl group as well as most melatonin supplements.
Original formula was invented by Hofmann
A few studies 1/5th toxicity and 1/8th pyretogenic effect (vasoconstriction/blood pressure)
Just a calmer cleaner version of LSD
Sounds awesome! I guess if I'm being lied to about something being lsd I should be happy it's probably this.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23692292 - 09/29/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This sounds like exactly what I need. I'm having terrible tachycardia and anxiety from my LSD. I used to love acid and don't remember it ever being like this. Maybe I used to use ALD-52.
Is this still legal in the US for feeding to your plant?
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ALD-52>>>>>>LSD-25
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23692617 - 09/29/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wouldn't make financial sense to sell it as lsd because you must first synthetic lsd than take further steps to create it. Hmmm
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: LuckeyMA]
#23692672 - 09/29/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Found 5 for 50. Never ordered RCs.
Totally safe?
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Moabfighter]
#23692714 - 09/30/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: Found 5 for 50. Never ordered RCs.
Totally safe?
Wondering the same thing
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: alexmir]
#23692752 - 09/30/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD-52 is known and produced for almost 50 years and should not be compared to all those really young and unexplored RCs. It's still legal as it never has been as popular as LSD, that's it. Popularity may change these days though. 
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Pandemoon]
#23692941 - 09/30/16 04:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD-52 is a drug synthesized from LSD by Albert Hoffman. Claimed and known to be LSD without its 'cons'.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693405 - 09/30/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It acetly lsd! Basically the same thing just with a extra amino acid or something, most likely just as safe as lsd
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I bet it's legal because by the time it's delivered to you, it's degraded back into lsd making it illegal again.
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Damn. Very interested in looking into this. I've tripped about 10 times from mushrooms, and it just doesn't do what I want it to do. I think LSD etc will do more of what I'm looking for.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Moabfighter]
#23693441 - 09/30/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is it you're looking for?
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693461 - 09/30/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What I want is to see things differently. Not imaginary dragons and crazy stuff, just normal vision, layered and broken down to see better. For example you know how the lines around words and the lines around basically any shape are far clearer and more pronounced on mushrooms? I want that and more. I also very much do not like the body load of mushrooms. It's a task to step two feet on them.
I've heard examples like, LSD can make a red light look green, you'll look at something and it'll start spinning in circles etc
If I'm wrong please correct me on my thoughts.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Moabfighter]
#23693469 - 09/30/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah guys, it really is all its hyped up to be. Just because it's an "RC" don't associate the same label with every substance, 4-Aco-DMT is also a wonderful and safe RC. I don't hate LSD-25 but I dislike it for an array of reasons, anxiety, tight body load/vasoconstriction and heavy stimulation feeling it carries.
ALD has none of that, at least very very reduced. It makes for a totally easy blissful trip, without losing hardly any potency, I can also sleep earlier on it which is nice.
Storage purposes it's better than LSD-25, and no it does not degrade instantly into LSD-25...
In solution it is stable unless in base or acid.
I would jump on ordering some, who knows how long it will be available and it's my favorite substance currently. I would rather take ALD than LSD-25 anyday. It's the same experience, just reduced negatives and enhanced positives.
It's actually safer than LSD-25, both intravenous toxicity and lowering the chance of a psychotic episode, reduced brainwave activity in EEG scans.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23693667 - 09/30/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah ALD is far better in my opinion also.
And moab maybe what you want is a low dose of it, LSD has a very very pronounced body load, ALD takes that out of the equation and leaves you only on the visionary side of the substance.
Also, always work your way up, with every substance whatsoever.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693674 - 09/30/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD itself is actually very stable, you won't find it degrading, in general having a longer shelf life than LSD-25. Vaporize some CBD crystals while coming up, nothing but bliss.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23693708 - 09/30/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not saying it's unstable as a form of LSD but it quickly converts from ALD to LSD, especially in water.
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You're right, it does degrades into LSD.. But never heard nor read about one getting an ALD blotter that contained even a glimpse of LSD.
So as long as you don't soak your ALD...
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693737 - 09/30/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't make sense to me why people have bothered with all these other dangerous and crappy research chemicals over the past 10 years if ALD was legal and available the whole time.
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There are some that worth a shot like 4acodmt I guess, but really...no idea.
ALD is a much better synthesis of its mother though I love the LSD body load from time to time...
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PsychoKinesiS said: I'm not saying it's unstable as a form of LSD but it quickly converts from ALD to LSD, especially in water.
Not true, only deacelaytes in acid or base. It's quite stable in any solution that is not an acid or base.(ie. water and alcohol suspensions work perfect) ALD-52 does not degrade into LSD in water
ALD-52 just became available recently, in the past few months.
And no it doesn't instantly metabolize into LSD-25, it's either a slow release, or active in the BBB beforehand, or both - or the experience would be the same, the effects are noticabley different.
ALD-52 has its own set of effects, if it turned into LSD-25 instantly please tell me what would be the point of making it and having a different experience and its own toxicology results
4-Aco-DMT is Acelayted Psilocin
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Edited by Eclipse3130 (09/30/16 11:28 AM)
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23693820 - 09/30/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok I won't debate the chemistry because I could be wrong.
However I am curious about why it's only available recently if it was discovered by Hoffman in the 60s.
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It was never commercially produced at the rate LSD-25 was, ALD has been in circulation for awhile, just not at the same perccentage LSD has been. A few labs tested street LSD awhile back and most of it came back as ALD just not at the same perccentage LSD has been. It's definitely been out there but not nearly as widely available, I think Nick Sand produced some back in the day as well and put it into circulation, but as for Orange Sunshines case he has since gone on record saying they were in fact LSD and not ALD, what made them special was they were all exactly 300ug dosed and was his purest batch ever produced, he "blessed" the batch.
If you wanna know more check out the ALD-52 thread in ODD I've posted most all the information in there that you can find or want to know about ALD-52.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23695202 - 09/30/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD-52, which was not an illicit drug. However, as the prosecution claimed, there were problems with such a rationale—ALD-52 readily undergoes hydrolysis to LSD -wikipedia
If it's not true someone might want to edit it.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: impaired420]
#23695507 - 09/30/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: ALD-52, which was not an illicit drug. However, as the prosecution claimed, there were problems with such a rationale—ALD-52 readily undergoes hydrolysis to LSD -wikipedia
If it's not true someone might want to edit it.
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