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Eclipse3130
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693674 - 09/30/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD itself is actually very stable, you won't find it degrading, in general having a longer shelf life than LSD-25. Vaporize some CBD crystals while coming up, nothing but bliss.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23693708 - 09/30/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not saying it's unstable as a form of LSD but it quickly converts from ALD to LSD, especially in water.
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You're right, it does degrades into LSD.. But never heard nor read about one getting an ALD blotter that contained even a glimpse of LSD.
So as long as you don't soak your ALD...
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23693737 - 09/30/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't make sense to me why people have bothered with all these other dangerous and crappy research chemicals over the past 10 years if ALD was legal and available the whole time.
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There are some that worth a shot like 4acodmt I guess, but really...no idea.
ALD is a much better synthesis of its mother though I love the LSD body load from time to time...
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Eclipse3130
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PsychoKinesiS said: I'm not saying it's unstable as a form of LSD but it quickly converts from ALD to LSD, especially in water.
Not true, only deacelaytes in acid or base. It's quite stable in any solution that is not an acid or base.(ie. water and alcohol suspensions work perfect) ALD-52 does not degrade into LSD in water
ALD-52 just became available recently, in the past few months.
And no it doesn't instantly metabolize into LSD-25, it's either a slow release, or active in the BBB beforehand, or both - or the experience would be the same, the effects are noticabley different.
ALD-52 has its own set of effects, if it turned into LSD-25 instantly please tell me what would be the point of making it and having a different experience and its own toxicology results
4-Aco-DMT is Acelayted Psilocin
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23693820 - 09/30/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok I won't debate the chemistry because I could be wrong.
However I am curious about why it's only available recently if it was discovered by Hoffman in the 60s.
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Eclipse3130
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It was never commercially produced at the rate LSD-25 was, ALD has been in circulation for awhile, just not at the same perccentage LSD has been. A few labs tested street LSD awhile back and most of it came back as ALD just not at the same perccentage LSD has been. It's definitely been out there but not nearly as widely available, I think Nick Sand produced some back in the day as well and put it into circulation, but as for Orange Sunshines case he has since gone on record saying they were in fact LSD and not ALD, what made them special was they were all exactly 300ug dosed and was his purest batch ever produced, he "blessed" the batch.
If you wanna know more check out the ALD-52 thread in ODD I've posted most all the information in there that you can find or want to know about ALD-52.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23695202 - 09/30/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALD-52, which was not an illicit drug. However, as the prosecution claimed, there were problems with such a rationale—ALD-52 readily undergoes hydrolysis to LSD -wikipedia
If it's not true someone might want to edit it.
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Re: Was I taking research chems? [Re: impaired420]
#23695507 - 09/30/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: ALD-52, which was not an illicit drug. However, as the prosecution claimed, there were problems with such a rationale—ALD-52 readily undergoes hydrolysis to LSD -wikipedia
If it's not true someone might want to edit it.
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