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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23691822 - 09/29/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

All hairstyles are natural.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: searching]
    #23691831 - 09/29/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



HOW DARE YOU DENY ME A JOB?!?!?!

I'm sure some lib fucking retarded court will say it's unconstitutional


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691835 - 09/29/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ok, hyperbole man. that prison guy is already gonna have enough trouble as it is without the cuff face.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23691846 - 09/29/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You can get disability for a facial tattoo.  Disability doesn't pay a mortgage though.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23691852 - 09/29/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I could definitely see that. I guess that's why the lawyer in the article tried to link it to African Americans. I'd argue that the choice is yours to either have dreads or not, and is no different than choosing to shave or not shave, or wash your hair or not. White people can have dreads too. It's not a race thing.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23691857 - 09/29/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You can get disability for a facial tattoo.  Disability doesn't pay a mortgage though.




You're doing it wrong

I know a guy on disability, he collects a nice check every month, AND his wife gets paid about 30$/HR (from the state) to take care of him, 40 hours a week, it's a nice scam, they been doing it for about nine years.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: searching]
    #23691863 - 09/29/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I could definitely see that. I guess that's why the lawyer in the article tried to link it to African Americans. I'd argue that the choice is yours to either have dreads or not, and is no different than choosing to shave or not shave, or wash your hair or not. White people can have dreads too. It's not a race thing.




Yup, no beards in oil and gas industry, shave or go home


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691884 - 09/29/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I could definitely see that. I guess that's why the lawyer in the article tried to link it to African Americans. I'd argue that the choice is yours to either have dreads or not, and is no different than choosing to shave or not shave, or wash your hair or not. White people can have dreads too. It's not a race thing.




Yup, no beards in oil and gas industry, shave or go home




Not entirely true although i recall my dad shaving for a job.  He had a beard for most of his work life.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23691895 - 09/29/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's called "grooming" for a reason.  If "natural" was protected, deodorant, clothes, etc. couldn't be required.  Frankly, I think employers should be free to discriminate based on whatever traits they want.  If they don't want to hire black people, so be it.  Let them get their asses kicked in the free market because of that policy.

Making discrimination illegal only means that discrimination is sneakier and hidden.  As a result, the public doesn't become aware of it.  That only allows the employer to keep doing whatever they want.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691907 - 09/29/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You can get disability for a facial tattoo.  Disability doesn't pay a mortgage though.




You're doing it wrong

I know a guy on disability, he collects a nice check every month, AND his wife gets paid about 30$/HR (from the state) to take care of him, 40 hours a week, it's a nice scam, they been doing it for about nine years.




Disability checks aren't that much, you get paid $600-$700 a month max. Is his wife a registered nurse or something?


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Enlil]
    #23691914 - 09/29/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Making discrimination illegal only means that discrimination is sneakier and hidden.  As a result, the public doesn't become aware of it.  That only allows the employer to keep doing whatever they want.



if it's hidden, it's not as prominent, no? :shrug:


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Enlil]
    #23691934 - 09/29/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's called "grooming" for a reason.  If "natural" was protected, deodorant, clothes, etc. couldn't be required.




Deodorant only takes 2 seconds to put on though. I can see why people would be bothered over strict guidelines about unkempt hair in the workplace.

Especially for women, if they have long naturally curly or frizzy hair, that basically means they'd have to spend 1 to 2 hours every morning just styling or straightening their hair to make it acceptable for workplace guidelines. It's a very time-consuming process.




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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23691966 - 09/29/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Then get a job in a coal mine :shrug:


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Hobozen]
    #23691978 - 09/29/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Most of them have gross personalities too, at least ime.. snobs

I've met some really cool people with dreads tho






I know a really cool dude with dreadlocks(white dude too) who was responsible for my first acid trip, so I can't hate too hard.

However, I come across a lot of nasty crust punks with dreads too :shrug:


In the end, people are people, yo. On a mass scale you can't use the ideas of good or bad, it's just..people.


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23692346 - 09/29/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I see a girl around with dreads,white beggar with a dog,always has some sign saying "gotta get back home need bus ticket" while her jeep is parked 20 feet away,always has a guy who looks like lil wayne waiting around for her,really awful ppl,that's her life, not working but begging


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23692378 - 09/29/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Most of them have gross personalities too, at least ime.. snobs

I've met some really cool people with dreads tho






I know a really cool dude with dreadlocks(white dude too) who was responsible for my first acid trip, so I can't hate too hard.

However, I come across a lot of nasty crust punks with dreads too :shrug:


In the end, people are people, yo. On a mass scale you can't use the ideas of good or bad, it's just..people.




People are individuals.Can't judge someone based on their looks. One of
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Enlil]
    #23692436 - 09/29/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's called "grooming" for a reason.  If "natural" was protected, deodorant, clothes, etc. couldn't be required.  Frankly, I think employers should be free to discriminate based on whatever traits they want.  If they don't want to hire black people, so be it.  Let them get their asses kicked in the free market because of that policy.

Making discrimination illegal only means that discrimination is sneakier and hidden.  As a result, the public doesn't become aware of it.  That only allows the employer to keep doing whatever they want.




I've actually been saying the same thing for awhile


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23692554 - 09/29/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's called "grooming" for a reason.  If "natural" was protected, deodorant, clothes, etc. couldn't be required.




Deodorant only takes 2 seconds to put on though. I can see why people would be bothered over strict guidelines about unkempt hair in the workplace.

Especially for women, if they have long naturally curly or frizzy hair, that basically means they'd have to spend 1 to 2 hours every morning just styling or straightening their hair to make it acceptable for workplace guidelines. It's a very time-consuming process.





why would they have to straighten their hair? curly hair isnt the same as dread locks


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Enlil]
    #23692654 - 09/29/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ssying it's unprofessional is true in some professions (say banker or sandwich maker) but the guy that works at zumiez should be able to look like whatever the fuck he/she wants to.


Also people are saying this could branch out into racist managers being able to profile blacks for "knappy hair". I'm not sure about that but that's an issue with people


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23692739 - 09/30/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's called "grooming" for a reason.  If "natural" was protected, deodorant, clothes, etc. couldn't be required.




Deodorant only takes 2 seconds to put on though. I can see why people would be bothered over strict guidelines about unkempt hair in the workplace.

Especially for women, if they have long naturally curly or frizzy hair, that basically means they'd have to spend 1 to 2 hours every morning just styling or straightening their hair to make it acceptable for workplace guidelines. It's a very time-consuming process.





why would they have to straighten their hair? curly hair isnt the same as dread locks




Stereotypical black hair isn't curly either, it's frizzy and unkempt. They would either have to put rollers in their hair and perm it to make it look curly, or they'd have to straight-perm their hair and straighten their hair to make it straight. Either method is a very time-consuming process.


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